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More tariffs on the way. Trump planning to declare a national emergency
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Mar 11, 2025, 10:50 AM
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Re: More tariffs on the way. Trump planning to declare a national emergency
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Mar 11, 2025, 10:53 AM
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He has absolutely no clue what he is doing.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52104]
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And neither do you libs.
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Mar 11, 2025, 12:09 PM
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Look at it from the US side.
Why do we pay tariffs to countries and not expect the same?
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What tariffs were we paying to Canada?***
Mar 11, 2025, 12:13 PM
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Paw Master [16526]
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Both countries had tariffs in place to varying degrees.
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Mar 11, 2025, 12:18 PM
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A lot of Trump supporters are pointing to the huge tariffs Canada had in place on US goods that only went into effect at high volumes...volumes that were rarely hit.
There's every chance that, on balance, Canada taxed our goods more than we did theirs. But certainly not to the degree that Trump is insinuating and certainly not to the point that needed this absurd trade battle.
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Orange Blooded [2341]
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Re: Both countries had tariffs in place to varying degrees.
Mar 12, 2025, 10:25 AM
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A dairy spat years in the making
Canada imposes exorbitant tariffs on certain dairy products, including a tariff on milk that can be as high as 241%, much to the consternation of America’s dairy farmers, who have complained for years that the border nation is treating them unfairly. But it’s a sliding scale tariff that only kicks in after US dairy exports hit a certain quota — a level American exports haven’t reached because of measures Canada has put in place to protect its domestic dairy industry.
“U.S. dairy is grateful for the Trump Administration’s efforts to hold Canada accountable on these protectionist measures,” Becky Rasdall Vargas, senior vice president of trade and workforce policy at the International Dairy Foods Association, said in a statement. “At the same time, a prolonged tariff war with our top trading partners will continue to create uncertainly and additional costs for American dairy farmers, processors, and our rural communities. We urge Canada and the United States to negotiate a resolution to these issues – both Canada’s trade barriers to U.S. dairy exports and the tariffs – as expeditiously as possible.”
In 2023, a trade dispute panel ruled in favor of Canada, arguing that the high import taxes did not violate the USMCA. Wisconsin Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin lambasted the decision, arguing it was creating an undue burden on her state’s dairy industry.
“Wisconsin dairy farmers work hard every day to bring world class products to market, and they deserve a level playing field with their global competitors,” Baldwin said in the wake of the November 2023 decision. “This decision flies in the face of the agreement our country made with Canada and puts our Made in Wisconsin dairy products at a disadvantage.”
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Re: Both countries had tariffs in place to varying degrees.
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Mar 12, 2025, 10:42 AM
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The US government spends tens of billions of dollars every year on subsidies for the meat and dairy industries. Canada doesn't directly subsidize their farmers. They instead have tariff-rate quotas and a supply management system. None of this was a problem in 2020 when Trump signed the USMCA and called it "the fairest, most balanced trade agreement ever".
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and the markets immediately react.***
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Mar 11, 2025, 10:55 AM
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Re: More tariffs on the way. Trump planning to declare a national emergency
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Mar 11, 2025, 10:58 AM
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Threatening to take over Canada - Trump followers will be here to defend this mockery in 3,2,1.
He sounds completely insane
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The guy is losing his effing mind.
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Mar 11, 2025, 11:05 AM
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And we get to watch it unfold. Yay.
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Bruh, I don't think he is
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Mar 11, 2025, 11:13 AM
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I think he's setting up a manufactured disaster so he can unleash his control.
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I thought that at first, but he's in pure panic mode right now
Mar 11, 2025, 11:21 AM
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I don't think this was any real well thought out endeavor.
If he truly had a long-term plan, he would have done everything to make this recession look like it was Biden's fault. But his emphasis on tariffs has made it apparent this recession is all his fault. He's going to get crushed in the midterms and kill his power.
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I appreciate your optimism that midterms will happen.***
Mar 11, 2025, 11:23 AM
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Orange Elite [5349]
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It's sad that is a real concern in this country
Mar 11, 2025, 11:27 AM
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because that's really the only way he retains power is a rigged election.
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Which is what we need
Mar 11, 2025, 11:28 AM
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The Republicans haven't done anything to improve the lives of average Americans since the 1980s.
They need a complete reboot.
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Re: Which is what we need
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Mar 11, 2025, 11:32 AM
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What we need is two new parties, because if the last two candidates is the best you have, then I can't take you seriously as a party.
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Re: Midterms, lulz.
Mar 11, 2025, 12:21 PM
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That sums it up.
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Re: 25th Amendment time.
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Mar 11, 2025, 11:27 AM
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I've been very reluctant to call for that, but he sounds like a maniac. So far, much worse than anything I've heard during his first term.
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To be clear: I blame no one but Donald Trump for this Trade War absurdity...
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Mar 11, 2025, 11:24 AM
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...But I also don't want to let Congress off the hook. It's THEIR job to set Tariffs. I realize they allow the President to control it to some degree but it's become his playground and at some point there have to be adults in Congress who step in and take back control.
Trump has about a 18 months...at this rate, the midterms will be a complete blood bath. If the Democrats run on a platform that doesn't try to demonize Trump on immigration and isn't all about a parent's right to put their 8 year old on hormone blockers, it will not be pretty. And at that point, I hope they take full control of our tariff structure.
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Every Republican in Congress sans McConnell is terrified of him
Mar 11, 2025, 11:30 AM
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if they go against him he instantly threatens to primary them.
Moderate republicans will need to vote out their Congressmen and women to show they need to stand up to Trump.
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Game Changer [1711]
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Ha good luck. There are very few moderate Republicans
Mar 11, 2025, 11:58 AM
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left. Most are MAGA, and this is exactly what they wanted. Trump has pretty much done what he said he would do, and this is what the voters wanted. Why would they turn on him when he is giving them what they wanted?
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Ultimate Tiger [34526]
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Your point on Congress handing over too much authority to the POTUS...
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Mar 11, 2025, 11:37 AM
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and tariffs is spot on. It was done with the assumption that a POTUS would only use that power to respond to urgent trade matters that couldn't wait on Congress to act...not as a policy initiative.
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The smartest thing Dems can do right now
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Mar 11, 2025, 11:42 AM
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Is S T F U, let these clowns tear themselves apart while the head clown makes disastrous decisions, and then come out swinging with NOTHING but the economy as their platform in 2026.
But never, ever underestimate the stupidity of the Dems and their ability to #### this up.
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Normally I detest that kind of political gamesmanship, but here, I think you're
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Mar 11, 2025, 12:10 PM
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right.
Anything the Dems do to mitigate Trump/Republican policies will only be used as THE reason that it didn't work out. Trump has zero allegiance to the truth and his followers will believe it completely.
Dems need to vocalize their opposition, vote accordingly, but avoid any tricks that undermine the policies until the midterms when they take over. Spend the time over the next 18 months going on the record of what your policy is and clean up your platform (get in line on immigration broadly...de-emphasize the farthest left policies on social justice). And then when Congress is in Dems hands in 2027, lead with maturity and decency. That's probably asking too much but that's probably the best to hope for.
This coming from a life-long Republican voter (though registered Independent).
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Game Changer [1711]
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This is todays example of what happens when you put
Mar 11, 2025, 11:54 AM
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a mentally insane and emotionally unstable person in charge.
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The Silence of the Pubs is deafening
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Mar 11, 2025, 12:05 PM
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Has even one Pub called out this nonsense regarding annexing Canada?
Trump’s diarrhea of the mouth seems like some parody on SNL, except unfortunately it’s not.
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What is the plan with the 51st state stuff?
Mar 11, 2025, 12:15 PM
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Is it just trolling?
Or is he seriously talking of taking them over by force?
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Re: More tariffs on the way. Trump planning to declare a national emergency
Mar 11, 2025, 12:17 PM
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Trump is mentally unfit for office. What an absolute trainwreck. He was getting ripped to shreds on Fox business News earlier.
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Re: More tariffs on the way. Trump planning to declare a national emergency
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Mar 11, 2025, 6:52 PM
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And Canada just caved on the 25% electricity tariff. Guess those steel and aluminum tariffs did the trick. If Canada would just agree to eliminate all their tariffs on American goods we could all move forward. Wonder why they and the left wing trash in America insist that they have a right to screw us on tariffs?
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Re: More tariffs on the way. Trump planning to declare a national emergency
Mar 12, 2025, 12:20 AM
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I mean, the only thing that makes sense is to for Canada to become our cherished 51st state - what a dummy.
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Can you, in your own words, explain how we're getting screwed by Canada...
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Mar 12, 2025, 3:18 PM
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right now, but when Trump negotiated the current USMCA it was, and I quote, "Once approved by Congress, this new deal will be the most modern, up-to-date, and balanced trade agreement in the history of our country, with the most advanced protections for workers ever developed."
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-united-states-mexico-canada-agreement/
Now, to the best of my knowledge, no new tariffs were placed on the US by Canada since that signing prior to Trump taking office again in Jan '25.
So...how are we getting screwed now, but 7 years ago it was the most balanced agreement in our history?
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Re: Can you, in your own words, explain how we're getting screwed by Canada...
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The ironic part is that the USMCA, for all Donald's bluster, actually was a really good trade deal and one of the better things he delivered. Which is why it's baffling Trump 47 is setting fire to it. Trump 45 would not have approved.
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