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Who FSU got from the portal this year
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Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 3:50 PM
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Marvin Jones, Jr.: A former five-star recruit, the current No. 5 ranked transfer LB/DL and No. 31 overall transfer picked FSU after leaving Georgia.

Jalen Brown: A one-time top-100 overall recruit, the No. 11 transfer wide receiver and No. 55 overall transfer comes over from LSU this offseason.

Shawn Murphy: The No. 5 transfer linebacker and former four-star recruit picked the Seminoles after transferring out of Alabama.

Roydell Williams: The former No. 5 recruit from Alabama departed the Crimson Tide for the Noles after emerging as the No. 7 transfer running back in the cycle.

Malik Benson: Once the No. 1 JUCO player in America, the No. 19 ranked transfer wide receiver left Alabama for Florida State.

DJ Uiagalelei: The former Clemson and Oregon State quarterback, ranked No. 14 in the transfer portal at the position, should succeed Jordan Travis in 2024.

Earl Little: 4-star CB transferred from Alabama

Terrence Ferguson: 4-star IOL transferred from Alabama

Tomiwa Durojaiye: 4-star DL transferred from West Virginia

Sione Lolohea: 4-star DL transferred from Oregon State

Jaylin Lucas: 3-star RB transferred from Indiana

Davonte Brown: 3-star CB transferred from Miami

Grady Kelly: 3-star DL transferred from Colo. State

Richie Leonard: 3-star IOL transferred from Florida

Jacob Rizy: 3-star OT transferred from Harvard

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:19 PM
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Good to see FSU building from the ground up. LMAO.

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That's not from the ground up.

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:26 PM
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Every one of those guys is experienced.
They were all developed by time at other schools.

All they had to do is learn FSU's system.

Tomorrow we'll find out how well it did or didn't work for them.

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Re: That's not from the ground up.

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:41 PM
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Why would the UGA wr be leaving if he’s so developed? Same for LSU guy. Same for DJ (seems he’d have followed his coach to MSU).

Alabama guys I get.

The rest are all just ok takes and not as talented as our roster.

We’ll see as you say

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Re: That's not from the ground up.

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Aug 23, 2024, 7:15 PM
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Don't like the coaching staff.
Don't like the school they initially chose.
Their skill set is a better fit for another system.
Friends in their new team.
Homesick/New school closet to home.
Higher in the depth chart at the new school.
Better NIL.
Favoritism/playing lesser talented players ahead of them.

I'm sure that's not the entire list of reasons.

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Seems the most likely reasons would be

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Aug 23, 2024, 7:26 PM
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1) They just weren't as good as the players ahead of them
2) Weren't getting the playing time they wanted

And so they left.

That's usually why players leave Clemson.

Why it would be different at other schools?

And not all 5 stars pan out. We've seen that lately.

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Plenty of guys in the portal want to play for a better team

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Aug 23, 2024, 10:09 PM
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or on a bigger stage.

Those are the guys we should be going after.

Look at some of the guys FSU brought in. They improved their team, while we sat on our hands and did nothing.

It’s ridiculous to think that no one in the portal is good enough to contribute for us.

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Re: Plenty of guys in the portal want to play for a better team

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Aug 23, 2024, 10:45 PM
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Good point JK. Definitely the OP listed several top portal players looking to play on a bigger state. Makes sense FSU got guys from Bama, UGA, LSU to make it big time playing against the likes of packed out 60k stadiums like BC, Duke, UVA, Stanford, Miami…, I mean that makes so much sense those developed studs wishing they could come to Clemson

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We have lost multiple games in the last few years

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Aug 24, 2024, 7:05 AM
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to teams that use the portal. In all cases, those teams got major contributions from players they obtained from the portal.

So those guys were certainly good enough to bet us. That should tell you something.

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The FSU portal WR (Coleman?) smoked us last year.


Aug 24, 2024, 9:45 AM
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Yet, some believe he couldn't have contributed to our team when our best WR was a freshman.

If that doesn't convince folks, nothing will.

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Re: Plenty of guys in the portal want to play for a better team

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Aug 24, 2024, 7:28 AM [ in reply to Plenty of guys in the portal want to play for a better team ]
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So who do we get rid of to make too for players that couldn’t even start at the schools they were playing for?

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Well don't fill the roster with projects and fallbacks who.....

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Aug 24, 2024, 9:48 AM
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a.) never contribute significantly or b.) never contribute significantly, then transfer.

Maybe they would have a spot or two on the roster for better players.

How has every team figured it out but Clemson

This comment speaks more to mal roster management than anything else.

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Re: Plenty of guys in the portal want to play for a better team

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Plenty of guys in the portal want to play for a better team ]
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Stop giving so many nepotism scholarships. Coaches sons. Friends sons. Etc etc. we lose 7 and give those scholarships to walk-ons. I’d rather see a stud WR like the kid from FIU that had over 1000 yards receiving and averaged 93 yards a game. High character kid with experience and skills.

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Things will get interesting when the scholarship numbers go up.***


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That's ludicrous and out of touch******


Aug 24, 2024, 9:48 AM [ in reply to Seems the most likely reasons would be ]
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Re: That's not from the ground up.


Aug 24, 2024, 5:40 PM [ in reply to Re: That's not from the ground up. ]
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1. MO money
2. MO money
3. Undecided return to # 3

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Re: That's not from the ground up.


Aug 24, 2024, 9:54 AM [ in reply to Re: That's not from the ground up. ]
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Mikita says hello

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If they were all developed why did they leave?***

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Aug 23, 2024, 10:08 PM [ in reply to That's not from the ground up. ]
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Re: If they were all developed why di they leave?***


Aug 23, 2024, 10:16 PM
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$$$$$?

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This is not XBOX where you just move players around w/o consquence

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Aug 24, 2024, 9:19 AM [ in reply to That's not from the ground up. ]
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everyone of those players has to learn, in addition to a complex system, the coaches, their teammates, the culture, the process and procedures, how to thrive in a brand new eco-system and about 100 other things.

Don't presume humans are just plug & play. Without an exceptional coaching staff that has culled these additions for a number of form, style and cultural fit metrics you will not in just a camp or two gel a team instantly.

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Re: That's not from the ground up.


Aug 24, 2024, 3:50 PM [ in reply to That's not from the ground up. ]
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It’s going to be a long year for FSU. Just putting a bunch of players who looked good in high school together doesn’t work. The portal IMO is a great tool to add depth or to put a piece or two missing in place. Rebuilding an entire team through the portal is disastrous. I think there is a reason most of these players are in the portal and their egos are bigger than their actual talent.

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Who Clemson got from the portal this year.

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:28 PM
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Re: Who Clemson got from the portal this year.

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:47 PM
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JK: got your head out of brownells rear, long enough to whine about football?

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Re: Who Clemson got from the portal this year.

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:56 PM
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Brownell hemorrhages his own recruits so heavily he couldn't field a team without the portal. And considering his largely mediocre results over the years we can all be thankful that he can now attract older kids developed elsewhere to contribute.

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tolerance for being shoved by the coach during a game must be one of


Aug 23, 2024, 6:04 PM
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the filter options on the Protal.

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Dabo is failing us, and I am concerned that we will see evidence next weekend.***

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Aug 23, 2024, 10:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Who Clemson got from the portal this year. ]
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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Tigernet is failing us for allowing phonies such as yourself

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Aug 24, 2024, 9:28 AM
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space to troll Clemson Nation like you do.

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So why do you respond to JK?

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Aug 24, 2024, 9:47 AM
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Apparently he's living rent-free in your head, and a few others around here.

The Judge actually makes lots of good points. They just aren't popular with people who are in cults of personality rather that those who wish the University and uts sports teams to be elite.

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She's an anti-Clemson troll and a phony.

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Aug 24, 2024, 10:19 AM
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You're suckered into it. She only parrots any negative talking point she can come across - that's her schtick. You can get wise or continue blowing hard.

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That's ludicrous, and frosted...


Aug 24, 2024, 10:25 AM
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With a false dilemma.

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Re: So why do you respond to JK?


Aug 24, 2024, 3:37 PM [ in reply to So why do you respond to JK? ]
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You would agree with the troll orange coot.

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Re: Dabo is failing us, and I am concerned that we will see evidence next weekend.***


Aug 24, 2024, 6:53 PM [ in reply to Dabo is failing us, and I am concerned that we will see evidence next weekend.*** ]
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To clarify, by your comment do you mean Dabo failing us in general or specifically in regard to the portal? I have mixed opinions on portal usage, but I certainly don't think you mean Dabo is failing us as a whole.

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Re: Who Clemson got from the portal this year.


Aug 23, 2024, 8:03 PM [ in reply to Who Clemson got from the portal this year. ]
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Troll.

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Your Mom

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Aug 24, 2024, 9:19 AM [ in reply to Who Clemson got from the portal this year. ]
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BAMMMM

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:42 PM
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impressive list, didn't realize they raided Bama so heavily, also some Georgia and LSU guys all highly ranked. bottom line is they have DJU at qb

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:45 PM
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Perhaps instead of the The Seminoles they could change their nickname to The Mercenaries.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:55 PM
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What I would like to know is how each of these guys did statistically at their former schools??

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If that's the case...

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Aug 23, 2024, 7:17 PM [ in reply to Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year ]
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Then 129 other FBS schools would need to have the same name change.

130 of 134 FBS teams have portal players this year.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year


Aug 24, 2024, 6:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year ]
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I'd also be interested in comparing who they LOST in the portal. That mercenary/highest-bidder mindset doesn't endure loyalty.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 4:58 PM
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Just FYI - Marvin Jones Jr is a LB/DE, not a WR.

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** Maybe they got confused with ...

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Aug 23, 2024, 5:01 PM
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the Marvin Jones who played in the NFL. He was a WR for the Lions and Bengals (maybe still in the league??).

Different guy.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year ]
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RedDawg said:

Just FYI - Marvin Jones Jr is a LB/DE, not a WR.


And now you know why he transferred from UGA ...

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 5:03 PM
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Still question why they are top 5? Me either.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year


Aug 23, 2024, 6:26 PM
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Chasing the dollar.

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Lots of open roster spots.

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Aug 23, 2024, 8:40 PM
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What's FSU going to do, leave 12 or 14 roster spots open?

And...if you ever changed jobs, your comment is hypocritical.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 6:25 PM
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I have the same question!

Thanks for this impressive list, Pacific!

I don't really care enough to drill down and find out; because it really doesn't matter. But, my suspicion is they had stats that were "just okay"!

Clemson has had some highly rated players come and go and transfer who: "had an impressive school next to their name and impressive H.S. rating" but: THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT AT THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL!

Exhibit A: Shaq Smith 5-star. to maryland
Exhibit B: Mike Jones Jr. 4-Star IMG Standout. to lsu
Exhibit C: Frank Ladson 4-star. to miami
Exhibit D: Nyles Pinckney 4-star to Minnesota
Exhibit E: Fred Davis 4-star. to ucf
Exhibit F: Chez Melussi 4-star. to wisconscin
Exhibit G: Jordan Williams 4-star. Virginia

***YES, I still have questions as to why FSU is ranked so high! Heck yes, I do.

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That's a net loss of 7 players with the 22 they lost to the portal.

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Aug 23, 2024, 8:01 PM
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The transfers are hoovering up the pie so the existing guys get less than they feel they deserve. Does that create competition or dissension?

Guess we'll find out.

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Seems like they might have transferred in a better DL than we have.

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Aug 23, 2024, 8:10 PM
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Impressive.

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Wrong.***


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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 23, 2024, 8:35 PM
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GT is going to give them problems if not outright beat them.

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Aug 23, 2024, 8:47 PM
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I'd rather have 3-4 star recruits developed in-house that know a system from running for a few years, rather than 3 stars that didn't pan out in other places trying to adapt to a new system in 1 year. They're transferring for a reason, not sure if tomorrow will tell a lot against GT, but we'll see. Got a feeling you'll see the same DJ by the second half - FSU will have the first few drives scripted.

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Aug 23, 2024, 8:48 PM
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And? You just keeping us up to date on the comings and goings of the portal?

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This is a discussion board. Excuse me for bringing up something to discuss.***

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Im not clear what point you are making?


Aug 23, 2024, 11:21 PM
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There are a couple guys on defensive line and the RB that looked like they have produced in college? The rest have pretty limited stats. But FSU also lost like ten more players to the portal than Clemson did. Is this list meant to be impressive?

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Don't get your panties in a wad. Just for discussion.***


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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 24, 2024, 7:32 AM
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Teams that aren't recruiting high school kids as hard will pay the price eventually. Just wait for it.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 24, 2024, 9:10 AM
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Looking at the 247 team recruit class rankings...

Clemson...#11...2 Five star...10 four star...10 three star...average..90.63

FSU...#12...15 four star...8 three star...average...90.90

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 24, 2024, 9:27 AM
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Saw Marvin Jones Jr...so looked up Marvin Jones Senior.

Junior is an FSU legacy...Senior played at FSU..went first round and played 11 NFL seasons as a linebacker.

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Recruits and portal transfers are two completely different things.


Aug 24, 2024, 9:50 AM [ in reply to Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year ]
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Recruiting rankings don't include transfers.

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Aug 24, 2024, 10:55 AM
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63-3

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:18 PM
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Well the portal mentality just took an L. Can't build a team in an offseason. Supplement yes but building a championship caliber TEAM not very likely unless you're Oregon or deep pockets.

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:52 PM
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Yep, my personal opinion is most of these portal players have an ego problem and having 11 egos on the field turns into disaster. Portal is good for gap filling and depth, but not rebuilding an entire team.

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:19 PM
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Tech has 17 portal players.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:56 PM
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Yet they weren’t given a top 10 ranking after losing their last game by 60.

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year

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Aug 24, 2024, 3:40 PM
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That helped them beat Georgia Tech. Oh wait. 🤣

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Re: Who FSU got from the portal this year


Aug 24, 2024, 3:41 PM
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That helped them beat Georgia Tech. Oh wait. 🤣

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