Swamp article.

Cliff notes?***

Mr. Wiener, who represents San Francisco, and other liberal Democrats believe there is a strong possibility of a “runaway convention.” They say that Republicans could call a convention on the premise, say, of producing an amendment requiring that the federal budget be balanced, then open the door for a free-for-all in which a multitude of other amendments are considered, including some that could restrict abortion access or civil rights.

Mr. Wiener, who represents San Francisco, and other liberal Democrats believe there is a strong possibility of a “runaway convention.” They say that Republicans could call a convention on the premise, say, of producing an amendment requiring that the federal budget be balanced, then open the door for a free-for-all in which a multitude of other amendments are considered, including some that could restrict abortion access or civil rights.

They could throw in just about anything wild and crazy. Now, if they want to come up with some set rules that say ONLY term limits can be discussed, or if a new amendment is proposed for that, sure. But we know term limits likely won't happen and they'll look to dismantle current protections.

We could have trusted the GOP with this a while back, like Reagan era or even 90s. But not post 9/11 and especially not under Trump's leadership.

Well, if a San Francisco Democrat says it,

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That's what THEY want you to think.

Dec 17, 2024, 8:15 AM [ in reply to That's simply not true. They would do his bidding. From your article: ]

Republicans have called for conventions for decades now. It's time dems do the same, if they value our country.

35 state legislatures have to pass THE SAME THING. And this is why this has been done, and failed, for decades. Because states throw the kitchen sink in the process and it SINKS.

They want you scared, fearful, the adjectives throughout the article are big clues. Forget the politics. I'd be a huge dem if dems could force term limits in Congress, and a balanced budget. And in that process dems would GAIN 85% approval from the American people. You need to drop the politics and just do what we all know is right. The alternative is BLEAK. I promise. And that is Trump, and worse.

The two ways the swamp will attack any Article V convention are simple. You will be amazed at how "bipartisan" opposition would be. You think Lindsey Graham wants term limits? Lol. Or Strom Thurmond? Or Harry Byrd, or Nancy Pelosi or the McConnell?

First, they would actively seek to lobby state legislators to do EXACTLY what they're "fearing". Throw the kitchen sink into it, and it fails. The second approach is to threaten to withhold federal funding, a tried and true technique the swamp has perfected. (This would be a last ditch approach if polluting the process fails).

Done right this saves our republic,. Done wrong, it ends it. It will end without it either way. The states are the ONLY check on Congress. Our system of checks and balances has ALWAYS been weak towards the legislative branch. Article V was expressly included to address that grievance. It was never intended to enact new laws or regulations. It WAS intended to enact structural or procedural changes to Congress in the event that was deemed necessary due to some systemic failure of the legislative branch. Term limits and don't spend more than you have. Those are procedural changes, they're not political in nature at all.

And if pub states toss the kitchen sink into any convention, they will be part of the problem, and not the solution. Like I said, the sky is the limit for the dems if they want to step up and be the grownups in the room. I promise you Trump wants pub states to toss in the kitchen sink. That ensures the process fails, and he can continue amassing control and power. He has to be seen as the only solution.

The best thing Trump could do (for the country) is to try mightily to keep the states on track limiting any convention to ONLY term limits and a balanced budget. The best thing Trump could do (for Trump), is lobby states to throw the kitchen sink into the process. I feel confident Trump will take the latter approach. Muck up the process, make sure it fails, leaving his excellency as the only solution.