Sounds like you almost understand it with the title and first

Classic example here of how the Diddycrats find a mole hill of an excuse to attack a critic of a leftist shrine (LA and State of CA) and divert attention away from their side’s mountain of incompetence.

The Oregon fire trucks were delayed, but not for emissions check purposes. They were delayed to inspect other aspects of the firetrucks’ condition.

Yay say the Diddycrats.

Look how much of this thread became sidetracked by the OR firetrucks controversy.

The OR firetrucks were far too late to have made much difference in the totality of the fire damage.

The real story is that CA and LA governments knew that their fast response firefighting infrastructure was inadequate. Maybe, maybe not, would the availability of a properly set up firefighting infrastructure have caught the initial fires before they spread and became uncontrollable. Undoubtedly, the conscious decision by State if CA to prioritize other matters (including State of CA’s ~$50M allocation to ‘fight Trump’s objectives’) and by LA to reduce funding for firefighting handicapped their fast response capabilities.

You don’t give losers an excuse for losing if they didn’t do their best to prepare to win.

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History of the App South, circa 1999. 600 level history course in Hardin Hall.

Jan 26, 2025, 12:22 PM

Paper topic was the Scopes Monkey Trial. We all turned in papers. Over half the class were masters students, the rest undergrads.

Lemme backup two years. In POSC I had a professor, still there, Bruce Ransom. Accused me of plagiarism on a paper because I incorporated "ideas" from class discussions, notes, and ultimately books read in a history course the prior year, without proper citation. Told him I still had notes of discussions about the books we read, but I didn't even remember the books or passages. Would have taken me longer to find the sources for that paper than to do the other research. He lit me up, but let it slide. I cited my class notes, the course, the professor, and the books we read, and that was acceptable. From that day until I graduated I cited every freaking thing under the sun that could possibly be questioned, in every paper, for every class, and learned to do it the right way. He was dead serious, as was my response, which was acceptable. Put the Fear of God in me.

Back to the App South history class. She was handing out the Monkey Trial papers. As usual, thanks to Dr. Ransom, I cited the crap out of everything imaginable. Professor was an older lady from somewhere local-ish. Can't remember her name. App South was her specialty. She silently went around the room dropping papers on desks. Mine was way better than expected, and I was shocked. I expected a C, maybe a B tops. Something was off here.

She walks up to the front, and lets out an audible sigh, clearly unhappy about something. She then scolded the class, reminding us this was a MASTERS level course, at a UNIVERSITY. Everyone nods. She then said at this level EVERYONE should know, and properly cite everything they turn in. Few eyes got big. She then ticked me off by letting everyone know there was only ONE student, in the entire 600-level class (about 17 people), who did that, then the finger point. She then ranted about how most people cited NOTHING. The few who did, did it improperly, or insufficiently, or both. What happened next is the reason for this tldnr post.

She said something to the effect she fears for the future of our country, if this type of apathy to sourcing and citing sources continues. She lamented that it took my paper to REMIND HER, even, how bad this problem had gotten in colleges. She then said when you go out into the real world, not knowing to do this, and not thinking it is important, people WILL BE MISINFORMED, and MISLEAD. What if people write newspaper articles without sourcing anything? Will you just accept what they write? The nightly news, what if they didn't source anything and just "told" you the news? She genuinely felt, and specifically said, this can destroy a society or our country if it continues. And this type of stuff has destroyed societies and countries in the past.

May paper wasn't that good, I thought. I have no clue what everyone else made. She may have flunked every paper, as unhappy as she seemed. But she made a point, but it's the bigger, and final point she made to the class that sticks with me on this message board, right now. And KUDOS to Dr. Ransom!!!! Irony, it's a POLITICAL SCIENCE professor who made the strongest point to me about sourcing and citing material properly, and how IMPORTANT that is. To this day I still see many scientific and academic papers that use proper citations. But, I've also seen them, that use proper citations to MIS-CITE sources. Yeah, check the perfect citation and the source does NOT say what the paper says the source says - (RFKjr, please stand up).

1984 and all the "Orwellian" stuff never really interested me, as I grew up in a different world (pre-internet). But it was a book conceived in 1943, published in 1949, and even though 1984 has blown past, here in 2025 we're closer to it than ever in my lifetime, HERE. And the only way you fix this, today, is to hold the internet, and internet providers/entities to the same standards newspapers, magazines, and television were held to in the past. If Tom Brokaw got on TV and said fire trucks from Oregon had been turned back due to their noncompliance on emissions, and no official public correction and admission of the mistake occurred, there would have been a lawsuit. Many probably. There is no punishment for misinformation today. Not to the troll who posts it online, nor the online entity that hosts it to to give them an audience, nor to the fiber networks and ISP's who transfer the lies. It's just......sad. There's just too much money to be made peddling lies. SAD.

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Now we learn that Emissions

Not to mention lack of water

There is no water infrastructure system in the world that could

Re: There is no water infrastructure system in the world that could

Well why don't you get off your highfuckinghorse and explain why the fire

According to Trump, there is a faucet up north

We elected a moron?

Yep he was way too old to be in office and had

Because there is no water infrastructure in the world that could

Yeah, the scumbags didn't even try***

Elaborate.***

Re: There is no water infrastructure system in the world that could

meant 5000***

They're clueless, and just parrot what they read on Twitter.***

Fire trucks + water in hydrants = rapid response elements

Re: Fire trucks + water in hydrants = rapid response elements

Who is "they" in the not understanding part you're saying?***

Re: Who is "they" in the not understanding part you're saying?***

Link?***

Re: Link?***

Re: Now we learn that Emissions

That's blatantly false.***

I'm still searching for emissions as a cause.

Ask the Cali State Forestry Commission his thoughts on the

But it SOUNDS like something that COULD be true***

Litmus test is "Does it make sense?"

NC Tiger gave Diddycrats an excuse to cover for terrible CA & LA govts

"Look how much of this thread became sidetracked...

Since its been widely reported, you should have

Re: Since its been widely debunked........

Re: Since its been widely debunked........

Pretty straightforward search but says a lot about gullibility

For the crowd that loves to yell

History of the App South, circa 1999. 600 level history course in Hardin Hall.

Here's the TL/DR version:

It's widely reported that ISN'T true...you are a liar...

Im not so sure its purposeful, I really think

At this point you're being too generous...

Sounds crazy enough to be true

Man, when NC_Tiger says it's probably a stupid post...***

God you MAGA people are so gullible.

Be very interested to learn what your source is here.

Perhaps some Bros podcast or X post? Years ago

Still laughing

Is it that you're a liar or that you don't know how to use the internet?***

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