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Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 28, 2019, 2:03 AM
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goes on a rant against Rep. Elijah Cummings (D) and uses the info from Fox to make the point that it's somehow Cummings fault. He's mad at Cummings because he chairs the House Oversight Committee and he actually attempts Oversight. So Trump no likey Elijah and as usual, uses colorful language like "No human being would want to live in such a rat and rodent infested place" (meaning Baltimore).
Soooo, the Baltimore Sun editorial board responded to Trump. You can read it at this link, it's a doozy. But here is how it ends:
"Finally, while we would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner — or ruefully point out that he failed to spell the congressman’s name correctly (it’s Cummings, not #######) — we would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are “good people” among murderous neo-Nazis that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity. Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one."
Yowza!
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0728-trump-baltimore-20190727-k6ac4yvnpvcczlaexdfglifada-story.html
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Other than a small strip around the Inner Harbor
Jul 28, 2019, 7:36 AM
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Baltimore is what Trump says, so deal with it...
Check out the crime statistics and do a little Google Maps street views...oh sorry, the Google Maps care may not have driven thru Baltimore because of the danger...
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Re: Other than a small strip around the Inner Harbor
Jul 28, 2019, 11:54 PM
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You're missing the point. Pretend for a second that it was Obama saying the exact same thing, if you can.
The point isn't that Baltimore is poor or dangerous, lots of places in the country are. The point is that Trump is President of Baltimore which is also part of the United States. Trump is President of all those people that live there.
Do you think Trump gives a #### about Baltimore? No, he doesn't care in the least. Trump is a Sociopath, a Narcissist and an incredibly dishonest and morally corrupt person.
Baltimore could be the worst ######## in the world and that isn't the point.
Geez, do you have to pay to be in that cult? If you do, they may as well kiss you 'cause they dammmsure screwwed you.
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 28, 2019, 7:40 AM
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Sounds like Trump hates America to me. Maybe he should just leave.
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Wrong, he is calling out Cummings and Baltimore
Jul 28, 2019, 8:53 AM
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For what they are, a liberal-run cesspool!
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Trump should leave Baltimore!!***
Jul 28, 2019, 10:19 AM
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Re: Wrong, he is calling out Cummings and Baltimore
Jul 28, 2019, 1:24 PM
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For what they are, a liberal-run cesspool!
So towns themselves are to blame for being poor now, and if they're poor, let them die because they deserve it?
You have heard of "urban blight", and you're aware of the root causes, right?
Plus...wow. That attitude will get you some votes. (I guess Trump figured he lost Maryland and its 11 electoral votes last time around anyhow, so hey, who cares, right?) But if you start sneering at and writing areas off just because they're impoverished, pretty soon you aren't going to have much left...either in terms of votes, or in terms of land. We aren't a frontier society anymore, we can't just go somewhere else when we don't like the old place anymore. We have to clean up and redevelop what we have.
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Re: Wrong, he is calling out Cummings and Baltimore
Jul 29, 2019, 9:28 AM
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“We aren't a frontier society anymore, we can't just go somewhere else when we don't like the old place anymore. We have to clean up and redevelop what we have. ”
Amen brother...now let’s spread the good word to Central America.
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Re: Sadly ... Trump Speaks the Truth About Baltimore
Jul 28, 2019, 7:50 AM
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He is correct! Most parts of West Baltimore that are in Cummings' district look like … Syria. Literally, thousands of vacant, unsafe, trash-filled houses; back yards and alleys used for trash dumps; trash-choked storm drains; statistically, the murder capital of the U.S.; a Deputy Police Commissioner and his wife robbed at gunpoint; the Police Department's highest-ranking civilian (a Muslim) brutally beaten and robbed in broad daylight by three "teens" on scooters; "teens" marauding through Harborplace and beating tourists; the previous Mayor resigned in disgrace for quietly receiving a $500,000 no-bid contract from the MD Hospital System for a child's book she allegedly wrote; the Mayor before her told police to give rioters "space to destroy" after a drug-dealer's death while in police custody … AND … Elijah Cummings' wife under investigation for mixing funds from a "non-profit" (that she runs) with her (and Elijah's) personal income. Hell! Parts of the City's IT system are still down … months after a ransomware attack! And the Baltimore Symphony orchestra is bankrupt!
In used to be a "relatively major player" in the City in the mid-70's to mid-80's, but now it's so bad that I never go there any more when I visit the area … and I don't know of any relative or friend that even ventures inside the beltway, let alone the City proper.
The last three decades have seen political corruption, incompetence and neglect to the point that there's almost nothing left to steal, and there's very little of what's left that is even worth saving!
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 28, 2019, 7:54 AM
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Been to Baltimore lately? It’s a no-go zone.
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Ufortunately, I've had to spend time in Baltimore...
Jul 28, 2019, 9:03 AM
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and President Trump is only partially correct in his description. In addition to the words "disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess" the President needs to add the words "high crime, drug dependent, gang controlled sh#*hole."
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Re: Ufortunately, I've had to spend time in Baltimore...
Jul 28, 2019, 9:31 AM
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Terrible baseball too.
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what a blow hard
Jul 28, 2019, 9:08 AM
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apparently he has never visited Camden NJ.
Cory Booker is not my first choice, but he would eviscerate trump in a 1 on 1 debate.
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LMAO, you quote a 7-yr. Mayor of Newark, NJ..
Jul 28, 2019, 10:10 AM
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historically known to be an EPIC failure..
Do you stand on your head and say, 'World..you are upside-down?'
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Re: LMAO, you quote a 7-yr. Mayor of Newark, NJ..
Jul 28, 2019, 2:14 PM
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if you would stop talking out of your asss and start acting less like psychopath, maybe a handful of us would actually care what you have to say.
-not doc
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Facts that don't meet your narrative, bother you.
Jul 28, 2019, 5:54 PM
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You voting this time or just gonna bitchfor another 4 years thereafter?
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Re: Facts that don't meet your narrative, bother you.
Jul 30, 2019, 7:54 AM
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Well I did not feel the need to vote for Obama, nor Clinton. And I am certainly not looking forward to Jury Duty as a a resisted voter.
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Good excuse.
Jul 30, 2019, 10:02 PM
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Besides, you could always get out by saying that you couldn't have read the crime in the local newspaper. You rolled with it and smoked it, first!
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Trump's telling the truth...and I kinda like that he fights
Jul 28, 2019, 10:17 AM
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Somewhere in Baltimore there is a grandmother...
Jul 29, 2019, 6:41 AM
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Who has never committed a crime. She was born and raised in Baltimore, and has spent decades doing what she could to help her community. She loves the place, and doesn't want to live anywhere else, though she knows it has a lot of faults.
Do you agree with the President that she is an animal, not a human?
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Re: Somewhere in Baltimore there is a grandmother...
Jul 29, 2019, 9:00 AM
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The grandmother would be more apt to agree with Trump if she knew Baltimore as a great city but now is afraid to walk down the street.
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She would agree with Trump that she is not human?***
Jul 29, 2019, 9:06 AM
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I read the article, and that is completely different...
Jul 29, 2019, 6:48 AM
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Sanders likened the poverty he saw to a third-world country. I don't know if that's right or not, as I've never been to Baltimore or any third-world country. But his was not any sort of personal attack on the citizens of Baltimore. His statement reads as one of pity. I don't know if, in person, the tone was different.
The President literally called the people of Baltimore animals. His statement was not one of pity, but of hatefulness and scorn.
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Re: Oh those pesky little facts, I hate when they get in the way
Jul 28, 2019, 3:33 PM
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weird, I do not see Newark on there, nor Camden NJ.
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I took a wrong turn once leaving Camden Yards.
Jul 28, 2019, 4:09 PM
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Within a couple blocks it was like the worst stereotype of the hood come true. Looked like a set from Judgement night. Burning barrels of trash all along the sidewalks and street, trash blowing down the street, drug deals on corners, one big mob of people around a fistfight, people playing dice against the curb......
I’ve been to some sketchy places—-that was the sketchiest.
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done the same thing...it is awful***
Jul 28, 2019, 8:34 PM
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The President of the United States has called peaceful,
Jul 29, 2019, 6:39 AM
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law-abiding residents of an American city animals. "No human being would want to live" there.
It's just so terribly disappointing. My gracious.
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Just because a human being is living in less than perfect
Jul 29, 2019, 11:04 AM
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surroundings, but still wants to be there - that doesn't make that person an animal. That's your spin on what Trump said... (Perhaps he should have said MOST human beings wouldn't want to live there.) If we focus on the real issue:
Are huge parts of Baltimore a cesspool? (Apparently)
Is Cummings in a position to actually do anything about it? (Apparently)
Trump and Cummings are both dirt bags. Trump took a shot at Cummings that happened to be true...simple as that.
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If he didn't mean people who want to live there are animals.
Jul 29, 2019, 11:09 AM
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Then he shouldn't have said it.
I would be focusing on the real issue if the President did. Instead, he chose to call the people of the city animals.
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"The city of Baltimore is rife with crime and poverty"
Jul 29, 2019, 11:13 AM
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"The good people of that city need good leadership, and Rep. Cummings has failed to provide this leadership in his time in Congress."
There, that was easy. Stating a strong political opinion without trashing people.
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Just so I'm clear and didn't miss anything:
Jul 29, 2019, 11:14 AM
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Are you saying that "No human being would want to live there" equates to "those people are animals"?
Or did Trump actually say somewhere else that "those people are animals"?
Because all of your comments seem hyper focused on Trump calling the citizens of Baltimore - animals...
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OK, he either called them animals, plants, or aliens.
Jul 29, 2019, 11:16 AM
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I went with the more obvious one, I suppose.
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And he didn't call ALL of them that...
Jul 29, 2019, 11:17 AM
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Just the ones who want to live there. I put the number of people who want to live there somewhere above zero, which makes his comment inexcusable.
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Make no mistake - I think Trump is a pig - but if you take a
Jul 29, 2019, 11:26 AM
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step back and don't get caught up in how he said it (very un-Presidential and not to be taken literally) - he is essentially correct. Large parts of Baltimore are dilapidated.
He's said a lot of things that are inexcusable - but even the MSM hasn't equated that to "He called those fine folks animals". And you know they would have if they could...
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I don't care what the "media" says
Jul 29, 2019, 11:41 AM
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I don't care if zero people on the planet agree with me.
I have no opinion on Baltimore, as I have never been there. Statistics I have seen show that the city has a lot of troubles.
How we say things will always be equally important as what we are saying. If you don't believe me, instead of asking your wife (if you are married) what's for supper, ask her if she's actually going to get up off the couch and cook you something edible for once, and see if how you asked it matters. I think she'll lose track of the purpose of the question, and it'd be your fault for how you said it.
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Re: Make no mistake - I think Trump is a pig - but if you take a
Jul 29, 2019, 3:12 PM
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step back and don't get caught up in how he said it (very un-Presidential and not to be taken literally) - he is essentially correct. Large parts of Baltimore are dilapidated.
He's said a lot of things that are inexcusable - but even the MSM hasn't equated that to "He called those fine folks animals". And you know they would have if they could...
As are parts of L.A. and Greenville, SC. Every been to the south side of Raleigh? Worse than Baltimore. I know, I live here.
I'll agree with you on the he's a pig thing. And a sitting U.S. President shouldn't attack Citizens or States or Cities, because they're people. You can't say that Raleigh is a pig sty without the people living there are somehow 'pigish'. It's not that big of a stretch my friend. His point was obvious.
Translated from Trumpese: "Those are not MY people".
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 29, 2019, 7:38 AM
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Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
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goes on a rant against Rep. Elijah Cummings (D) and uses the info from Fox to make the point that it's somehow Cummings fault. He's mad at Cummings because he chairs the House Oversight Committee and he actually attempts Oversight. So Trump no likey Elijah and as usual, uses colorful language like "No human being would want to live in such a rat and rodent infested place" (meaning Baltimore).
Soooo, the Baltimore Sun editorial board responded to Trump. You can read it at this link, it's a doozy. But here is how it ends:
SO JUST WHOSE FAULT IS IT. CUMMINGS HAS BEEN IN CHARGE OF THAT DISTRICT FOR 40 YEARS. WOULD YOU STEP FOOT ANYWHERE IN THAT AREA. FEEL FREE TO GO ON UP AND HELP THOSE POOR PEOPLE OUT. CUMMINGS SURE HAS DONE NOTHING IN 40 YEARS DESPITE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT THERE.
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Little civics here...
Jul 29, 2019, 7:42 AM
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Cummings is not "in charge" of his district. No Congressman is. They are representatives of the people of their district, in the federal government. "In charge" of the area would be a mayor, an executive.
That's not to say Cummings hasn't failed in some way as a representative...I don't know anything about him or his district to be able to make such a call. Certainly the people of his district approve of what he is doing. But he's not "in charge".
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 29, 2019, 3:06 PM
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SO JUST WHOSE FAULT IS IT. CUMMINGS HAS BEEN IN CHARGE OF THAT DISTRICT FOR 40 YEARS. WOULD YOU STEP FOOT ANYWHERE IN THAT AREA. FEEL FREE TO GO ON UP AND HELP THOSE POOR PEOPLE OUT. CUMMINGS SURE HAS DONE NOTHING IN 40 YEARS DESPITE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT THERE.
YOUR MISSING THE POINT. THINK FOR A SECOND, TRUMP IS PRESIDENT OF BALTIMORE TOO! A SITTING U.S. PRESIDENT ATTACKED A COUPLE MILLION U.S.CITIZENS!
And stop hollering. 
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 29, 2019, 7:51 AM
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HEY FELIX AND THE REST OF YOU RACE BAITERS. DONT LISTEN TO TRUMP, LISTEN TO A GUY THAT HAS LIVED IT.
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 29, 2019, 8:08 AM
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I do not like the hate because everyone hates on Detroit, but no one has a clue to the inner workings politically and socially around the area. So everyone just spouts hate instead of learning about the situation.
Cummings is a terrible human being. Period. Much like Detroit's Duggan, Kilpatrick and many others before them.
The problems come directly from poor leadership, but no one wants to be held accountable. There are 4 different and active Federal Investigations into the front office in Detroit. 4! It should be the same with Baltimore. They should be holding people accountable.
Cummings is a waste of space and air on this earth and he should be held accountable. That is where Trump is correct. The rest is just cheap rhetoric.
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 29, 2019, 8:43 AM
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What Trump said was correct but any sitting POTUS with any class would not have said it.
Just quote the poverty and crime statistics to show what a bad job Cummings has done.
My BIL who was in law enforcement at the time (mid 80’s) was mugged in downtown Baltimore. He was in plain clothes at the time and the mugger pulled a knife on my BIL and sister. BIL pulled his coat back to reveal his badge and gun. Mugger ran off.
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Re: Trump sees report on Baltimore on Fox News...and he
Jul 29, 2019, 9:15 AM
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Sounds like he should want to help Baltimore with some Fed aid if it is that bad. Make America Great Again youn know.
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Possibly - but he'd also want to be sure we don't let more
Jul 29, 2019, 10:48 AM
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folks into this country (in an uncontrolled manner) while we have extreme poverty issues of our own in the US...
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I'm sure Trump's rant was because he saw it on Fox News, BUT
Jul 29, 2019, 10:43 AM
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...the fact is it is entirely correct!
The Baltimore Sun has done editorials on the trash heap that Baltimore has become. They just don't like who said it this time.
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Re: Quit bitching, Butter. Round up your kind on this board
Jul 29, 2019, 10:08 PM
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Go away little man, you're boring.
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Of course, I am
Jul 30, 2019, 7:23 AM
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I blast your nose through the back of your skull. You run away.
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