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110%er [5708]
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Why do the white male TNet
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lefties believe they are not a target now or will not be a target in the future?
Diversity Word of the Month
Privilege is a set of unearned benefits given to people who are in a specific social group. Privilege operates on personal, interpersonal, cultural and institutional levels, and it provides advantages and favors to members of dominant groups at the expense of members of other groups. In the United States, privilege is granted to people who have membership in one or more of these social identity groups:
• White people • Able-bodied people • Heterosexuals • Cisgender people • Males • Christians • Middle or owning class people • Middle-aged people • English-speaking people
Privilege is characteristically invisible to people who have it. People in dominant groups often believe they have earned the privileges they enjoy or that everyone could have access to these privileges if only they worked to earn them. In fact, privileges are unearned and are granted to people in the dominant groups whether they want those privileges or not, and regardless of their stated intent.
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1745161772057649648
Do you have to get Ryan Carson'd to understand it?
Looks like the diversity office needs more diversity: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/diversity/about-us/meet-our-team
See the university wokeness for yourself: https://diversity.jhu.edu/
The amount of money being WASTED on this chit is astronomical.
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What do I win if I check ALL the boxes ?
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:47 AM
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Prison ?
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Let me check with the pre-cogs
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:49 AM
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from the new DOJ pre-crime division...
Um, yes, you will commit several crimes in the future - please turn yourself in now.
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I'm a Pepper, he/she's a Pepper, they/them's a Pepper..
Jan 12, 2024, 2:23 PM
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...wouldn't YOU like to be a Pepper too?!!
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Is there any culture or society in which certain people or groups don't
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Jan 12, 2024, 12:13 PM
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have privilege? I can't think of one. It's the normal, predictable result of the way all cultures and societies are formed - to benefit those who form them.
Should we try to minimize unfair privilege and bias? Absolutely, and we can. Do we have to demonize entire groups of people who may benefit from it in some way? Hayull no, but that's exactly where we are. Ignorance and stupidity.
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110%er [5708]
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I don't think your use of privilege
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Jan 12, 2024, 12:29 PM
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in that scenario is the same as they are using. If you descend from the culture creators you, nearly by definition, will adopt that culture.
By adopting the culture you share common values, common thinking, common language, common beliefs in how to live and participate in the community. If that's privilege then it is the privilege of 'fitting in.'
This is not a privilege or an unearned 'benefit.' The person still must choose to accept the culture or not, and how to participate in the culture (or not).
The culture creators in our case did what? What culture was created that most white people adopt (or used to adopt) without thinking?
It's not like non-whites are not exposed to the culture created by the founding fathers. Of course they are exposed to it. However, they CHOOSE in too many cases not to accept it.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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Re: Is there any culture or society in which certain people or groups don't
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Jan 12, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Do we have to demonize entire groups of people who may benefit from it in some way? Hayull no, but that's exactly where we are. Ignorance and stupidity.
Going from the OP, where do you feel the people listed in here were "demonized?"
You do agree people like you and I have been afforded privilege in this nation, right?
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It's only idiots that think it's a negative thing they've been privileged.***
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Re: Is there any culture or society in which certain people or groups don't
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:48 PM
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Going from the OP, where do you feel the people listed in here were "demonized?"
LOL! You can't be serious. Per the article, members of those groups have things they don't deserve, at the expense of people who do deserve them. That's demonizing the people in those groups, due merely to their membership in those groups.
Being born in the 1950s, I am very aware of growing up in a totally segregated world in South Carolina. Schools were not integrated until I was in 5th grade. Black kids sat in the balconies in movie theatres, and in their own section at the ball park. Black people rode in the back of the bus and were not welcome in many restaurants. I never understood all of that, and came of age when all of that was being torn down. I grew up being taught and believing that color shouldn't matter; that we are all the same on the inside. We are one. Let's live together in harmony. Let's move past color.
Now, because of my color and being part of certain groups, I have things I don't deserve, and I should feel guilty because it's at the expense of others. Now that's the message. I would argue that lot of the privilege I have is because my parents worked hard and played by the rules, and made the needed sacrifices. It's not all because I'm a white hetero Christian male.
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Man, it's a tough time to be a white guy!
Jan 12, 2024, 1:01 PM
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Good thing we control literally everything in America or otherwise, whew. What would we do?
I wonder what caused our good fortune to control everything?
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Wait, so youre saying theres a white conspiracy to control the world?
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Jan 12, 2024, 1:12 PM
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That sounds an awful like the Jewish conspiracy to control the world. Equally laughable.
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Um, yeah, centuries ago, there literally was
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Jan 12, 2024, 2:11 PM
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The Western world, that is. And it worked. White males ruled it.
Are you arguing someone other than white males have ruled the Western world for centuries?
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Muh spiracies!***
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No, it's not.
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That's not the point. The point is that in spite of all of the bias and prejudice that has benefitted white Christian hetero males in America, it's flat-out wrong to ascribe blame, guilt, or responsibility to anyone based on their belonging to one of those groups.
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But by all means, feel free to shoulder that guilt, blame, and responsibility
Jan 12, 2024, 7:34 PM
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if it somehow makes you feel better.
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I'm not shouldering it
Jan 15, 2024, 10:58 AM
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Because no one is trying to make me shoulder it. No one is making me feel guilty. I go about every day without feeling attacked.
This link shows a recognition of privilege. It's an important concept to understand to move forward to equality and improvement in society. White dudes don't like it because it flies in the face of the stupid "I don't get why the black Americans can't get their #### together" argument.
You and I benefited for privilege extending back well before we were born. It's helpful to recognize it in how we treat others and how we try to improve our way of life. We can do that without taking anything away from all of us white dudes.
No one is attacking you. You aren't oppressed. If you feel someone's making you feel guilty... well, maybe you really do feel that way.
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Its so dang good being privileged that I dont even feel like a victim!***
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My kid is finishing her MS at Johns Hopkins
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this semester. She did not learn wokism there.
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Outside of the racism-
Jan 12, 2024, 1:45 PM
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The scariest term is “owning class”
Maybe we should have everyone just vote for their paychecks and how much you’re allowed to own… I hope we start waking up from the wokeness!
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Re: Outside of the racism-
Jan 13, 2024, 8:32 AM
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How are you, as a white man, being "held down"?
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You dont read good***
Jan 13, 2024, 9:20 AM
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Re: You dont read good***
Jan 13, 2024, 10:10 PM
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How are you, as a white man, being held down?
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Re: You dont read good***
Jan 14, 2024, 10:59 AM
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Explain the relevance of your question to anything I said.
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Re: You dont read good***
Jan 14, 2024, 12:01 PM
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You asked "How/why do you think holding white men down will elevate the poor?"
Explain.
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Re: You dont read good- pay attention to tense
Jan 14, 2024, 8:00 PM
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I asked how you are being held down as a white man. You don't know, do you? 😆
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Sometimes I think y'all just don't know what words mean
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Jan 12, 2024, 1:53 PM
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sometimes probably on purpose so you can invent scenarios in your head. When people talk about white (or whatever else) privilege it just means that the system was designed with you in mind. It's invisible by nature because you never have to think about it, it just works out that way. For normal white people, we don't ever really think about the fact that we're white, it's just the default.
Don't worry about the cop on the street harassing you? Congrats. Did you not notice how the store security looked at you when you walked in? Congrats. Do you not worry about what to put as your name on a job application? Congrats. Privilege isn't getting a check in mail every month cause we're white and nobody is suggesting punishing us for it either. All they're asking is for people to be aware of it and think about how things work for people who don't have your same privilege.
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That's a significantly nicer way to put it than how I did.***
Jan 12, 2024, 2:04 PM
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Considering the OP, I was tempted.
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I think there are probably much more reasonable people who legitimately don't understand the concept. When I was much younger I was very much against things like affirmative action. In my head, if we just ignored race, everything would be much better. Slowly, I started to understand that it's tough to come up with a reason (non-racist one) other than oppression for why certain things didn't look like a representative snapshot of America as a whole: CEOs, college admissions, etc.
My views shifted much more gradually, but the closest I had to an "AHA!" moment came in school and it wasn't about race. I really wanted a summer internship in DC, but the problem was internships are unpaid and DC is expensive. Since I was on the GI Bill, I just took classes at Georgetown while I was interning and still got the full GI Bill adjusted for DC cost of living. It worked out for me, but a really poor person would never have been able to live up here unpaid. It had this domino effect on me where I realized everything like moving, changing jobs, etc. is easier for certain people. It doesn't mean that it's impossible for other people, just harder which obviously affects outcomes.
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As someone once said...
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Jan 12, 2024, 2:15 PM
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"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
How silly a crybaby white male looks when bitching about someone discussing privilege when every major facet of our nation is controlled by white dudes. Especially the government.
Here's an example. The GI bill. I wonder how many people on here benefited from that because their grandfathers or dads got it after WW II? Probably many. My father did from my grandfather, and as a result, I benefited.
Now take a hard look at the million of black veterans who were denied the GI bill because... they were black.
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Amen.
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Jan 12, 2024, 2:19 PM
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I wrote my graduate thesis on how WWII, specifically veterans benefits, shaped the American middle class. Throw redlining in there and you've got the main reasons minorities were excluded from the GI Bill and the VA Home Loan.
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Serious question to you and Cat
Jan 12, 2024, 3:53 PM
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Do you think the nation is more or less racist today than in the 90’s?
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I'd assume less.
Jan 12, 2024, 4:07 PM
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What's funny is I don't really think of America as racist racist. Largely, I think America is just rigged against poor people and because of a long history of racism we end up with horrible outcomes reflective of that.
Obviously, we still end up with stuff like the mass graves in Mississippi or your occasional cop being straight up racist, but I don't really see overt racism on any large scale.
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Re: I'd assume less.
Jan 13, 2024, 8:27 AM
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Ok. I don’t necessarily disagree with your response, but I’m just trying to circle this square. How/why do you think holding white men down will elevate the poor? Is is socialist or communist based?
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Re: I'd assume less.
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How are you, as a white man, being "held down"?
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Definitely less. A lot less.
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Jan 13, 2024, 10:12 AM
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But, unfortunately, platforms and avenues exist now for racists to be a lot more vocal and network and think they're normal. And a lot of them think it's en vogue to be racist again. So we have less racism but just louder, dumber racists. Like NC_Tiger.
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I think to be fair though....
Jan 12, 2024, 4:11 PM
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the term is also commonly used with a much broader meaning/context than you list.
How you define the term is reasonable, but it also is defined by the people who you is and it's commonly used for a LOT more than what you listed.
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Because I'm not a soft crybaby.***
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A target...for what?***
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credit card offers.***
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My credit score is crashing so I may not be a good target for those***
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#WhitePrivledge***
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Re: Why do the white male TNet
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The line of thinking of the DEI person if taken standalone is not necessarily offensive. I can spin it in a way that makes 'sense,' like SmilingTig. If you are born and raised in, say, Polynesia, your privilege might be the ability learn to build a small wooden boat and sail it a gazillion miles across the ocean. You'd learn the customary ethic culture, food, dances and probably the brutal individual responsibility and and work ethic that those people traditionally have used to survive. Plop someone from Europe in there, and do they start whining that everyone else is privileged (because they know the culture) and they are not? Or does the European zip up his man suit and figure out how to live and work there?
Given the context of the current leftist culture of victimhood and creating power from seeing racism at every corner, I will make no such accommodation to this racist b itch. She hates whites and will hate you snowflake commies just the same as me. She hates you because she thinks you (people on the list) have taken from others something they should not have and do not deserve. It's complete bullchit. It's made up 'logic' that really has no logic to it.
She is propagating the perpetual racism that the democrats will never fix because it is one of their permanent platform topics to get votes. The left would be lost w/o the claims of racism, even though anyone with half a brain knows it is the left that owns the root cause of black despair.
Where are the Hispanics complaining about white privilege? Where are the Asians complaining about white privilege? Where are the [insert next non-black group] ...
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Re: Why do the white male TNet
Jan 12, 2024, 7:13 PM
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Asian and Indian Americans have the highest standards of living, highest standardized test scores, lowest out of wedlock birthrates, lowest crime rates, etc in this country, not whites. Yet it's mean old whitey that the left seems to think is hoarding all of its treasure from the ever oppressed "pepple of color". I guess that's easier than trying to explain why non white people walking into this country with nothing are somehow able to not only survive, but thrive, within a generation. Good thing their voters are morons and homeless bums who will eagerly have their vote harvested for a fiver.
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Re: Why do the white male TNet
Jan 13, 2024, 8:19 AM
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What's your explanation for that?
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Re: Why do the white male TNet
Jan 14, 2024, 9:41 AM
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I will 'splain it for your simpleton brain, ... what this means is that any suggestion that being white brings some type of privilege not available to everyone is COMPLTE BULLCHIT, and you are a stupid non-thinking sheep if you buy into it.
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Philando Castille might disagree.
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So would Corey Jones.
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Re: Why do you hate people of different color and cultures than you?***
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Why are you such a moron who is so insecure that you have to find fake reasons to hate others to make yourself feel better.
You should get counseling. Being picked on as a kid has apparently caused you deep seated mental problems.
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Great insight.
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That boy spews venom as a matter of course.
I pity his wife.
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I pity yours since...
Jan 15, 2024, 11:00 AM
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You think women are lesser human beings and have stated as such. I'm pretty confident of the hell she gets put through at home. Probably your only real vessel to relieve your anger at the world.
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Re: Why do you hate people of different color and cultures than you?***
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You suggesting that someone seek counseling - as if you present yourself on Tnet as a well-adjusted, grounded, "normal" and sane person - is rich.
What did the Bible say about taking the log out of your eye before telling someone else about the speck in theirs?
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You are a frothing at the mouth racist
Jan 15, 2024, 11:01 AM
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You get your panties in a wad over what's written on cups and cried--like a little b!tch boy--after the election, going on a crazy rant that the Neilson ratings people needed to be imprisoned.
You're the one who clearly exhibits mental insecurity. Remember the time you called someone's daughter here a slut because he disagreed with you?
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All that pent up hatred and fear of minorities is going to rob him of a couple
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of years of his life...so ironically, the minorities will have killed him.
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Re: Why do the white male TNet
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Jan 14, 2024, 8:06 PM
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I noticed the benefits supposed privileged people receive aren't listed. I'd like to know what they are.
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