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Commissioner [997]
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Somebody pleas explain to me what clout the Big XII has over
May 19, 2012, 1:00 PM
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the ACC. Maybe I'm a complete idiot but I just don't see how a conference that is/was on the ropes at this time last year with the likes of Texas A&M, CU, Mizzou, jumping because things were so great. Leaving this patch-work group of mediocre programs like KU, ISU, KSU, etc. with UT being the giant that controls this very narrow geographic region. Please, someone tell me how the networks see them as a bigger market than the ACC?
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May 19, 2012, 1:04 PM
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Re: Somebody pleas explain to me what clout the Big XII has over
May 19, 2012, 1:05 PM
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Surely you jest. Your precious acc is dead man, D E A D and there is no life support available. Wouldn't surprise me to see Unuc leave this conf. now.
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CU Medallion [54079]
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That would be the coup de grace. Swofford runs the ACC in
May 19, 2012, 3:58 PM
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the ditch, and then gets The Heels towed out by the SEC or the Big 12 or the B1G.
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For starters....
May 19, 2012, 1:09 PM
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a conference
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Commissioner [997]
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But outside of UT and OU with OSU just getting better recent
May 19, 2012, 1:14 PM
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ly, how do they command so much of a better contract? I don't understand. The whole argument has been Population bases and TV Sets. How does a conference that is mostly just Texas command so much of a bigger piece of the pie?
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CU Guru [1895]
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I don't get it either.
May 19, 2012, 1:15 PM
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They lose Nebraska, Missouri, aTm, and Colorado add WVU and TCU and make more money?
That doesn't add up.
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Re: I don't get it either.
May 19, 2012, 1:18 PM
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The ACC should mirror the SEC, every school in the ACC should cheat..
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Re: I don't get it either.
May 19, 2012, 1:32 PM
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Miami, Ga. Tech and North Carolina were early adopters of the plan.
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Re: I don't get it either.
May 19, 2012, 3:53 PM
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and unc, at least, had amassed great talent. they went to a bowl game vs. tennessee and almost (should have) won, with about 3/4ths of their team not eligible. if they could have played the season full-strength there is not a doubt in my mind they would have been in the hunt for the mnc.
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Ask the TV network executives.**
May 19, 2012, 1:17 PM
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Re: Ask the TV network executives.**
May 19, 2012, 1:19 PM
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You must have a good product and TV sets.
ACC has TV sets, but a crappy product.
BIG12 has TV sets, and a decent product.
SEC has TV sets, and the best product. SEC wants more TV sets because you can't get better than the best....just need more people to sell it too.
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All-In [38514]
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I don't think there is much difference in the products.
May 19, 2012, 1:26 PM
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It's all about marketing.
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Re: I don't think there is much difference in the products.
May 19, 2012, 2:54 PM
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The SEC has 6 traditional national powerhouses, with 2-3 other schools that are currently very competitive nationally. The Big 12 and ACC have maybe 3 powers apiece.
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Legend [16182]
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BS...The SEC has three and they are all in the West...Can't
May 19, 2012, 3:27 PM
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count UF ,UGa or UT, as they would be behind OSU/KSU...
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It is all about Texas - the University of ... and TV markets
May 19, 2012, 1:21 PM
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in Texas. Currently configured, the Big 12 is the University of Texas Conference. Nobody else matters. UT walks and the conference folds, but UT isn't going to walk because they own it. If rumors are true, the Big 12 will become the UT-FSU Conference because only the Texas and Florida markets matter.
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You are being extremely naive if you think
May 19, 2012, 1:33 PM
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FSU will carry Texas type clout in the Big XII. Texas, like UNCheat will not relinquish power to any other team in that conference. Funny how ESecPN interviewed the coward Mack Brown about the new SEC/B12 bowl game?! Hmmmm.;..
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I may be the classroom dunce but I'm not buying it. I think
May 19, 2012, 1:23 PM
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there is alot more to play out on this thing before we stick a fork into the ACC's future. The media has been way behind on this stuff in the past and I predict there will be some rabbits jumping out of hats in the future. Maybe its ND, or something else but there is no way that the former Southwest Conf, then the former Big XII, now this new discombobulated tapestry of programs has more leverage. TCU and WVU? Please. Meanwhile, the ACC has only remained intact and grown with other schools begging to join over the last 60 years. I guess we will see.
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The ACC is only expanding in number of schools though. Our
May 19, 2012, 2:52 PM
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FB revenue and bowl payouts are actually decreasing by the rate at which they grow. Its like a differential equation: Say the ACC grows 10%, 9%, and 8% three straight years. Theyre growing every year, but the RATE at which they grow is decreasing 1% every year. That means we're headed for a market in the ACC where growth will cease. In modern day college atheltics, if you arent expanding and growing,m then youre falling way behind. Stability isnt a big deal to TV markets and bowls. You must still have a product that people want to watch and the ACC doesnt have it ourside of FSU and Clemson.
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Athletic Dir [887]
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Maybe???***
May 19, 2012, 1:27 PM
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Re: Somebody pleas explain to me what clout the Big XII has over
May 19, 2012, 1:38 PM
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The Big 12 can get more money than the ACC because the Big 12 doesn't have Swofford negotiating for them.
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Re: Somebody pleas explain to me what clout the Big XII has over
May 19, 2012, 1:39 PM
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The other four programs left the big12 because of the Texas network, and their football programs are fairly better than the ACC's. Texas, TCU, OU, OUS, WVA, KSU, Texas Tech and Baylor (this past season). 6 out of 10 had a winning seasons. 5-6 out of 10 was ranked at the end of the season. I have been a tiger fans for a long time and followed Coach Ford from start to finish and the ACC just don't have it. We are a weaker football conference and will continue to be if the ACC doesn't get better real soon.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Look at what theyve got now that theyve expanded:
May 19, 2012, 2:40 PM
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OKST, Baylor, OU, TCU, WVU, and KST all finished ranked. The Texas TV market alone is half the size of the entire SEC TV region. Add the rest of the midwest and WVU to that and youve got a huge TV market. That would only get larger if Clemson and FSU were to join.
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Seriously?
May 19, 2012, 3:09 PM
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- They're in position to expand much further. It's not like they're already at 14 teams with little possible expansion left to expand the brand. The obvious move is to go east, particularly into the Southeast. Clemson, GT, FSU, maybe VT and Miami, Maryland? - they can get to 16 and have a balanced geographical conference only with the addition of eastern teams that expand the footprint to ungodly proportions. A strong Eastern Division composed of football-oriented schools in a ratings/TV contract environment that values football above all else will make it the rival of the SEC within what is essentially the same footprint. Money, money, money.
- The product is better than the ACC product.
- The fan following is greater than the ACC fan following.
- It is a football conference, and football sells.
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