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All-In [40974]
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so we started paying people $300 a month for every kid they
Jul 14, 2021, 5:13 PM
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have. Seems like a great idea. That's enough for a lot of people to go ahead and just quit work and stay at home. 4 kids 1200/month. 300/week is better than a low wage job for sure!
Maybe we can get those old rich boomers with no kids to pay their fair share of taxes.
This stimulus stuff is great! We need more free cash!
What could possibly go wrong...
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Lot o points [181629]
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It's tax credit they get every year.
Jul 14, 2021, 5:14 PM
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Now it's just spread out?
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Re: It's tax credit they get every year.
Jul 14, 2021, 5:24 PM
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It’s way more fun to pretend this is some new socialism/welfare/handout in the constant us vs them war. I 100% guarantee every single poster on this board with kids has used or still uses this credit.
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Orange Blooded [4728]
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Yeah, but it's still stupid. Didn't get any of the stimulus
Jul 16, 2021, 1:00 PM
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money, but got $333 deposited yesterday. Complete phase out is $400,000 vs the $160,000 for the stimulus checks.
The CTC just normally helps offset what I owe (I always strive to break even with witholdings, but bonuses for me and commissions for husband can fluctuate wildly).
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Re: It's tax credit they get every year.
Jul 14, 2021, 5:24 PM
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Great. Now people can really see what a sham it is to get a credit for having children. "Hey, I popped out a few more burdens on society...and I get more money???" Wow!
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Re: It's tax credit they get every year.
Jul 14, 2021, 5:27 PM
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Every married couple under $400,000 income can claim this credit, and up to $150,000 for the boost to the credit this year.
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All-TigerNet [13336]
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Re: It's tax credit they get every year.
Jul 14, 2021, 6:02 PM
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I know who gets it, still doesn’t mean I agree with credits for children. Having children is a choice. Buying my boat was a choice, can the taxpayers help pay the bill?
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Re: It's tax credit they get every year.
Jul 14, 2021, 6:50 PM
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Then say that, don’t make some “burdens on society” BS comment
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Re: There are too many people breeding.
Jul 14, 2021, 10:47 PM
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No they aren’t***
Jul 14, 2021, 6:54 PM
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the 400/200 apply to the regular 2000 credit not the
Jul 14, 2021, 6:59 PM
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increased amount to 3600 in the stimulus bill
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Re: the 400/200 apply to the regular 2000 credit not the
Jul 14, 2021, 7:01 PM
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Which is precisely what I said
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Lot o points [181629]
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I'm not getting anything lol***
Jul 14, 2021, 6:38 PM
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110%er [9705]
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Yeah - it was pretty much doubled. Is the "doubled" amount
Jul 14, 2021, 6:45 PM
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the amount Biden is trying to make permanent?
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All-In [40974]
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by you I meant everyone that gets the credit
Jul 14, 2021, 6:50 PM
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married people that make over 150k a year and single people that make over 75k a year don't get the increase
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You might want to try this again***
Jul 14, 2021, 5:20 PM
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Yeah, big fail. Now he could make a much better argument
Jul 14, 2021, 5:33 PM
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for the lengthened and boosted unemployment benefits than the child tax credit. $1,200 a month? Lol. I can't feed four kids for that much, much less anything else like clothes, books, or the GI Joe with the kung fu grip.
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All-In [40974]
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why should I and other tax payers
Jul 14, 2021, 6:29 PM
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be financially responsible for your children. Why do you want us to pay for food clothing and whatever else you listed. What did you do to deserve the increase from 2000 tp 3600...besides a vote for uncle sugar.
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Re: why should I and other tax payers
Jul 14, 2021, 6:57 PM
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For people whose total tax is less than the credit, sure. Get as fired up as you want, it’s stupid, but whatever. For people that work, youre not paying anything. It means people are paying less to the government in federal income taxes. Are Republicans still for this?
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Re: why should I and other tax payers
Jul 14, 2021, 8:47 PM
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Re: so we started paying people $300 a month for every kid they
Jul 14, 2021, 7:32 PM
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ok smart guy, try and live on 1200 a month with 4 kids, I dare ya. You can not even get a 1 bedroom apartment for that.
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Re: so we started paying people $300 a month for every kid they
Jul 14, 2021, 7:36 PM
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Ummmm…people that make ZERO and have 4 kids, can live in this country. And be fat!
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Describe what these people look like in your mind***
Jul 14, 2021, 7:38 PM
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Re: Describe what these people look like in your mind***
Jul 14, 2021, 7:41 PM
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Heisman Winner [112321]
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Wanna know the real BS?
Jul 14, 2021, 9:00 PM
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Dems force insurance companies to cover dependents until age 25, but they cut this credit off at 17….like 90% of 17 year olds in the country aren’t dependents and costing mom and dad just as much as a 16 year old. Also, free tuition for everyone but let’s stop this bonus money right when they would be going to college.
Oh yeah. My son is 17 so I’m biased and bitter. F this govt cheese.
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Re: Wanna know the real BS?
Jul 14, 2021, 10:55 PM
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17 year olds should be working at least part time and earning more than the credit. At least in the real world.
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Lot o points [156401]
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Why not 16?***
Jul 14, 2021, 11:22 PM
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I'm really surprised that there wasn't more of a call for
Jul 14, 2021, 11:43 PM
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16-21 year-olds to find work and take one for the team this summer while employment sorts itself out as schools and childcare ramp up properly. Grab some spending money, pitch in for America, and do it on subsistent wages that work out alright for those not needing to raise a family but raise hell instead. Missed opps.
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Lot o points [156401]
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My son is a lifeguard. One of his coworkers quit and went to
Jul 14, 2021, 11:49 PM
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A part time job at LensCrafters or similar for $25/hour. Insane what people who want to work with no prior experience can command right now, and amazing that more aren’t taking advantage of it.
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No reason
Jul 16, 2021, 12:32 AM
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If you have a 16 year old too.
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Legend [17438]
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I don’t want to pay any taxes but want free stuff …
Jul 14, 2021, 9:20 PM
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from the government. This isn’t happening.
My favorite bartenders occasionally slide me free beer. This makes me relatively happy.
That’s the definition of “you can’t always get what you want but if you try sometimes, you get what you need.”
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There are some people consider their gifts in life
Jul 14, 2021, 10:07 PM
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as a responsibility to others, especially those that are less fortunate, and there are republicans. 
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Lot o points [156401]
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Using taxes and govt as your means of meeting your
Jul 14, 2021, 10:14 PM
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responsibility to your fellow man is like giving to a charity that says 99% of contributions go towards overhead.
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Re: Using taxes and govt as your means of meeting your
Jul 14, 2021, 11:01 PM
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Hey, maybe if we change the name from government to community chest, we can get more republicans on board? ;0
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Orange Blooded [3004]
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How else are you supposed to open a new factory?
Jul 14, 2021, 11:03 PM
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It really boils down to viewing the poor as less thans.
Some get upset when we throw free money at corporations. Others parents.
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Re: How else are you supposed to open a new factory?
Jul 14, 2021, 11:11 PM
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in a vain attempt to escape any sense of guilt, people have to look down on the less fortunate, and in a way dehumanize them to make their suffering more acceptable. It is a self-defense mechanism that makes humans capable of all kinds of horrible things. There are also the garden variety sociopaths that just don't give a f'ck about anyone but themselves. But they tend not to make excuses or operate on any antigovernment ideology, they are just aholes.
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The 2008 style things aren’t what I’m referring to. It’s the
Jul 15, 2021, 8:00 AM
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things that are given to companies every day around the country to open plants or stores. Welfare is all around us.
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Re: The 2008 style things aren’t what I’m referring to. It’s the
Jul 16, 2021, 12:46 PM
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Don't those create jobs and stimulate the economy?
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Re: There are some people consider their gifts in life
Jul 14, 2021, 10:19 PM
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People that live solely off of the government dime should stop having babies, as their civic responsibility.
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Have you ever had somebody give you a list
Jul 16, 2021, 9:42 AM
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of gifts that they want for their birthday, so that you have to pick one?
It really sucks the joy out of giving. I call it a Birthday Tax.
Now, wedding registries and whatnot are a little different. I see the usefulness in those. Since you're stocking your new house, it makes sense for you to dictate which China pattern you want, etc. I compare this to taxes gathered by the government to fund the military and interstate system. You wouldn't want individuals where their money went in these situations, or things could get weird. Everybody would want their money to go towards 90MPH Speed Limit signs and Stealth Bombers or whatever when it may not be what is needed most.
I'm not a very giving person, and that's my prerogative. I should do better. And IF/WHEN I do better, it will be my decision on my time.
People who take pride or think they are being virtuous because they pay a lot of taxes (or because they want OTHER people to pay a lot of taxes) are full of crap.
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It's the movie "Idiocracy" in real life.***
Jul 16, 2021, 8:58 AM
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Polygamists all became Dimocrats overnight***
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