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Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:10 PM
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The changes to fix things are coming.. enjoy the dang win.
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RIght!?! I mean come on...
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:11 PM
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We just beat our state rival and people are all bent out of shape because it didn't happen like they envisioned.
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Re: RIght!?! I mean come on...
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:12 PM
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Right there with you brother
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:13 PM
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I'll never be upset with a W. Let alone one vs those c#cks.
But curious what you have heard about fixes.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:15 PM
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They are acting like we were at 100% on offense. No Williams, no Collins. We played them with freshman or back ups in key spots. Can only get better.
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Re: RIght!?! I mean come on...
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:38 PM
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Collins and Williams would not have made much of a difference tonight.
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:00 AM
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Can only get better means couldn’t have been worse..
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Re: RIght!?! I mean come on...
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Nov 26, 2023, 3:48 PM
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Some of you guys are OK or satisfied with a Mediocre win in the scrub ACC, sorry but I'm not!!! But yes, I'm glad we won, I live in Cootlumbia, and I have to hear about a coot win for the entire 365 days of the year, but the coots aren't as good as most teams in the ACC, so beating them buy a fumble and 3 field goals and without 1 offensive TD in the entire game causes me to be sick on my stomach!!!!
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Nov 26, 2023, 4:26 PM
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I’m not upset. Happy we won, but I was hoping for something like a 63-17 win. Didn’t come, so I’ll take the win. Go Dabo.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:37 PM
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I will take the win. The offense looked so bad though against a bad defense. It is simply hard to get excited. I think this is where the frustration is coming from. If it were a one off performance probably not a big deal, but we are on year 3 now of bad offense.
There is absolutely nothing that gives me hope for this offense for next year. Cade is slightly better than DJ. Unless there is some great improvement year over year for him and the offense this team is not going anywhere. As it stands, I think we are looking at a similar year to this year.
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Re: RIght!?! I mean come on...
Nov 26, 2023, 3:51 PM
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We did score an offensive TD with DJ as our QB last year!!!
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Nov 26, 2023, 12:28 AM
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I had to go sit in my car and listen to Christmas music to soothe my soul for a while during the game... but I will never complain about this win. I also came up with many ways to incorporate Clemson football into Christmas songs. Ask me if you want some Clemson caroling ideas.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:13 PM
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I agree. Changes are coming.
When we say “fix things” does that entail another QB not currently on the roster to compete w Cade for the starting job in 2024?
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:15 PM
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The roster is what it is.. coaching changes. The staff believes os CK2… I personally don’t but they are smarter than me
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:18 PM
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If Mafah returns and we get some healthy receivers along with the incoming freshman receivers, Cade will be ok. He won’t be DW4 or TL16 but he’ll be ok.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:20 PM
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Nailed it
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:34 PM
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How can you say that after what that offense did to the program this year? No offense, but are you on pills? There has to be MAJOR changes if you as a fan want to get back in the title picture. I bet you wanna be positive, but seriously? Get back the same WRs? No thanks…
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:37 AM
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Read it again, slower this time. Get back the injured WRs AND the freshmen we have coming in. We have 2 big time recruits coming next year. No pills. No offense, but did you pass 5th grade reading comprehension?
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Nov 26, 2023, 1:21 PM
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Umm, ok, getting back any of those WRs will not help the offense move forward in the right direction. The Offense has been stuck in the mud for 3 years now with the same problems! No QB, no WRs, and an OL that needs help ( being nice ). Please tell me you aren’t putting all your hope on true freshman at WR? There are highly recruited guys on the roster now, and they either haven’t planned out, or haven’t been developed. There are 2 inside WRs and nothing else. Clemson has no deep threat, and that’s been the story for 3 consecutive years amongst other problems.
If Dabo grits his teeth and brings in a couple of home run hitters at WR, and some new guys to help Riley coach them up, will you admit you’re an idiot and quit Tigernet?
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Nov 26, 2023, 3:43 PM
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I’ll admit you’re an idiot right now.
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She's also a snowflake.***
Nov 26, 2023, 3:45 PM
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Nov 27, 2023, 10:34 AM
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Recruits read this stuff. The more y’all complain about how bad our offense is, they’re gonna go elsewhere. I actually am optimistic about next season. Yep I’m putting all my hopes on our freshman we have coming in. They’re day one game changers period
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:40 PM
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I disagree. Cade lacks poise and football IQ. Does not see the field well either. He is young, but have to hope for improvement I guess.
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Nov 26, 2023, 5:19 AM
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Cade ran the ball and managed 40 minutes of offense with a really sick/flu offensive line & RBs who didn’t practice all week. His options at wr & TE weren’t much tonight.
Cade is a big reason we won tonight, he did a good job with the hand he was dealt & being sick/gettin IV pre warmups too.
Did y’all watch the whole game?
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:56 AM
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Vizzina is a pro style more like DJU but smaller. CK needs a WB whisperer but is a step down from Boyd Watson and Lawrence. I think Vizzina can push CK but even at its extreme I can still see 1-2 games we can lose due to offense next year. D will be stout again but can’t always live off D. Ask Iowa. So we have great potential but not the combo QB to get back to playoff. Hopefully I am wrong. Regardless as I have since 1970, God willing, I will be in the Valley next fall as many times as possible. For today I am smiling ear to ear and hoping some how we can get to the Poo Tarts Bowl so I can take my kids and enjoy Fla for a few days. Never a bad thing to beat the “flagship university “ ever regardless of how you do it.
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Nov 26, 2023, 12:20 PM
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If you have Cade a Mike Williams, or a Tee Higgins, he’d be just fine. Blaming Cade because we can’t put more than two healthy receivers on the field is simply not fair. He even hits receivers in the hands and they drop the ball.
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Staff changes are a must. We’ve lost some we should have won, won some by the skin of our teeth when they should have been blow outs. It almost all boils down to coaching or lack thereof
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Nov 26, 2023, 5:15 AM
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Disagree, our rookies & defense dominated and the offense held the ball for 40 minutes on the road in a tough environment after just about the whole team being sick with the flu all week. The trainer got the game ball tonight.
The coots would have forfeited or ask to delay the game to next week…lol
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Nov 26, 2023, 9:51 AM
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along with the criminoles.
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Nov 26, 2023, 9:56 AM
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I see a huge factor impacting offense in the way of being too conservative, which keeps the game close and gives the opponents more opportunities to stay in it or win it. I don’t like it. We would’ve scored TDs on offense if the coots were scoring. This article even calls it out. It’s true. Need to start stepping on necks rather than playing not to lose.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:26 PM
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I hear ya. I’m not sure the staff trusts Cade.
I hope Cade’s only problem tonight was lack of receivers. Cuz our offense had little confidence and little consistency. Not horrible but not above average.
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Nov 26, 2023, 8:21 PM
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I’ve been speaking about changes for months and months now. Very happy it’s finally coming.It’s just a shame frankly, it did not have to be this way.
Cade would be a lot better with a good OL… slightly better Playcalling at times and less drops by a pretty mediocre WR group. It’s amazing how far that group has fallen since the height of WRU. Put CK behind Georgias OL, And you would see a marked difference and much more confidence.
I agree though…sometimes it’s hard to believe in him when he does unwise things. He didn’t play enough last year in my opinion, but considering the type of HS program he came from, you would think he would be better versed in situational football
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He was 15/27 for 100 yards.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:17 PM
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That’s pretty bad, especially against a defense that isn’t very good.
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Re: He was 15/27 for 100 yards.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:19 PM
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How many drops did the receivers have? I know, that doesn’t fit your narrative.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:44 PM
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I will give you that. Some of the “drops” were poor throws.
The Oline was atrocious in pass pro tonight. But that is not unusual.
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Re: He was 15/27 for 100 yards.
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This sick team getting IV’s gutted it out without practice all week and held 75,000 chickens in the stands watching us hold the ball for 40 minutes and our defense absolutely torture their offense with a very good QB.
They managed 20 minutes & had one drive basically in the first quarter, we drove them backwards drive after drive, Wes kept changing the defense almost every drive and it kept them guessing.
This was the slow kill for the coots, not much they could say, they just lost their bowl game to their most hated rival.
Dominated like a little league team not coached by Francis Marion!
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Okay, so if he were 18/27 for 130 yards would that make you feel better?
Nov 27, 2023, 10:28 AM
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Probably so, since your narrative is to hold on tightly to his 5 star generational QB billing.
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Stick to basketball buddy
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:20 PM
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We’ve played like crap on the road all year and this was the first time Cade only made one bad decision on the road
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:46 PM
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True statement. This offense really plays poorly on the road.
I was concerned about this going into the game.
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So since he didn't make as many horrible mistakes
Nov 27, 2023, 10:29 AM
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as he usually does, that means he played a great game?!?
I like Cade. He's talented. But he didn't play great in this game. Better than some of his other games, but not great.
Why can't some of you acknowledge that, with the hope that he continues to improve?
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Re: He was 15/27 for 100 yards.
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Oh that was more than pretty bad.
That was inexcusable.
We shouldn’t have even had 15 passing attempts tonight.
Three linemen on the front of their defense and we continued to force passes.
If Christopher Reeve was still alive, even he would be shaking his head.
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RE: If Christopher Reeve was still alive, even he would be shaking his head.
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LOL... man, that's cold. I can see myself using that line in the future.
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I want someone to explain the run up the middle on 3rd and 14!
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Well, at least we didn't fake a punt again.***
Nov 27, 2023, 1:59 PM
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Re: He was 15/27 for 100 yards.
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Nov 26, 2023, 5:11 AM
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You just aren’t a Clemson fan, if after knowing The Whole team was sick, Cade ran tonight & kept the ball for 40 minutes.
Did you watch the game? We didn’t have options at WR that were healthy, we played two rookie & one sophomore TE’s that haven’t played all year. Cade kept our drives going all night.
These guys gutted out a total domination in a game with their rival in a chicken pen on the road.
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Yes, I watched every minute of the game.
Nov 27, 2023, 10:33 AM
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I understand that we had players out with illness and injury.
If we don't have functional WRs who can help us win, we haven't recruited/developed well enough to have quality depth.
And if they are that bad, why did we throw 27 times?
But since we do recruit well, and Dabo raves about our players, and we did try to involve the receivers regularly, then perhaps your excuse is lame.
Cade did some very good things with his feet, but in terms of the passing game, he didn't do so well. And yes, that's taking into account several dropped passes that weren't his fault.
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I know you don’t understand football at all, but the objective was not to turn the ball over. If you turn the ball over on the road, you lose there was not a single wide receiver on the field for Clemson that could win a jump ball. If the wide receiver isn’t WIDE open, you don’t throw it. The game plan was to run the ball, kill the clock and keep rattler off the field.
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would think that Grisham and Spiller might be replaced-Cade is iffy!
would like to see Jeff Scott more directly involved in coaching/recruiting!
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Enjoy brother!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:16 PM
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Oh I will for the next year
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All In All the time
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Agree -- enjoy the win
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:17 PM
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This year's 4th, 5th and 6th year seniors did the best they could. But the best 2023 players were young players incl. true freshmen TJ Parker, Peter Woods, Tyler Brown, Avieon Terrell & Khalil Barnes.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:23 PM
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The fun is in the winning. It’s a good night.
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:27 PM
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Sure is
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:30 PM
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This was our Super Bowl. And we won! Go Tigers!
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:31 PM
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Prob same people that was posting in the first quarter calling for Goodwins head and calling the defense soft after the only scoring drive of the night for the coots. Never satisfied unless we win like 56-0. Miserable to be around. I’ll take a win anyway we can get it. This offense is going to be fine. People need to be patient and take a win when we get it.
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Only thing I was upset with was the thrown end zone int. RUN BALL!
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Run clock. FG. And I don’t have to worry at all in the 4th. Down 2 TDs… coots would need 8 qtrs to do that.
~JKB
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Re: Only thing I was upset with was the thrown end zone int. RUN BALL!
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It was a bad cal and total pass interference, go back and watch it, the defender held him to catch the ball & it was still a fight.
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Re: Only thing I was upset with was the thrown end zone int. RUN BALL!
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Actually, the announcers were correct. If there was going to be a flag, it should have been offensive pi. The defender had the inside leverage. By and large, thought the crew let them play and was a good ref game.
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Re: Only thing I was upset with was the thrown end zone int. RUN BALL!
Nov 27, 2023, 10:24 AM
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No he grabbed him before the ball was thrown and never let go of the arm bar, it was holding or defensive pass interference period.
Check this out at 6:45 mark, stop it on the review of the route, he held or defensive pass interference, the ref who reviewed after the game agreed too.
It should have been called period!
https://youtu.be/6ST8BqZU8KU?si=hAbnrWajidiQ8qgT
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Dynasty Maker [3117]
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If love defense
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Nov 25, 2023, 11:32 PM
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It was a freaking masterpiece. A thing of beauty.
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Paw Warrior [4631]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 12:29 AM
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I also think we went very conservative because we didn’t need to air it out. Defense had this game in the bag. Why risk a TO
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All-American [560]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 4:20 AM
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Remember when we won 13-9 in 2005 and everyone was Happy! Whitehurst completed the sweep but the defense won the game. Even better tonight, we actually made 3 field goals above 40 yards that we have not made all year. Weitz is now a legend!!!! You spoiled cry babies have no clue. Just win baby!!!! Just win!!!!
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Tiger Titan [50571]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 4:49 AM
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Considering the team didn’t hardly practice because of the flu & illness, the game ball went to the trainer.
These guys fought Clemson with 40 minutes of ball possession tothe coots 20 & ran them backwards like they were a FCS team.
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Dynasty Maker [3117]
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Weirdos equal
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Nov 26, 2023, 9:53 AM
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The Lunatic Fringe
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Ring of Honor [22805]
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Re: Weirdos equal
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Nov 26, 2023, 3:46 PM
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Cobbox the 🤡
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Game Changer [1878]
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Ask Danny Ford if strong D and Avg O wins championships
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:43 AM
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Nm
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Paw Warrior [4754]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 11:58 AM
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Who could possibly be upset with the win ? This time last year I was sick to my stomach, today - life is not just good, it’s great !!!
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Hall of Famer [8104]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 12:07 PM
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Seriously, I would be happy with 3-2.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 12:19 PM
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Great Scott (haha)…So I’ll take a stab at this and you critique:
1). CDS replaces Austin, likely with an OL coach of Riley’s choosing, Dabo’s approving? Brings in a past coach (Brad) as an OL consultant of some sort.
3). CDS replaces Grisham with the “other Scott” (Jeff).
These seem like the obvious coach moves. Do you agree? Do you foresee any other coaching changes?
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Hall of Famer [8847]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 1:10 PM
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It does not matter if I agree or not; Dabo will make the decision if we are going to have staff changes. Whatever he decides to do is fine with me and 98.5% of the Tiger fans. Go Tigers.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 1:45 PM
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Thanks for your comment. I did not ask you but thanks anyway. I am proud that you are a 98.5%er and that my post allowed you to announce that to TN. I agree with your general assessment.
I asked the OP a question because he has been presented on TN, whether he likes it or not, as somewhat of an insider who often knows about things within the Clemson fb program before the common fan. He hinted at coaching changes to come in this thread. Have a good day.
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Dynasty Maker [3157]
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Re: Can the weirdos upset with the win relax
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Nov 26, 2023, 3:56 PM
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Always appreciate a win over the Gamecocks! It was obvious that the defense came to play and we adjusted to playing field position and clock management. We also made sure that disaster didn’t strike and allow “big mo” to swing back the Gamecocks way. It was an “old school” game where it was absolutely wonderful to see the defense physically man handle “little brother.” They had no response. Possibly could have scored more points if we didn’t have two major drops. Go Tigers and win the bowl game!
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