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TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 9:07 AM
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Clemson forward to transfer
Sophomore forward Malik William will transfer from Clemson University, head coach Brad Brownell announced on Tuesday. “I’d like to thank Malik for his commitmen Read Update » |
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Trainer [48]
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 9:23 AM
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Are there any players left on the team for next season?
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110%er [5977]
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We’ve lost 6 of the 12 scholarship players from last season
Apr 16, 2019, 9:32 AM
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And have 3 signees for 2019-2020, so we have 4 scholarships available.
Coach Brownell’s player evaluation, recruiting, and roster management is lacking a strategy to say the least.
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Orange Blooded [2593]
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Re: We’ve lost 6 of the 12 scholarship players from last season
Apr 16, 2019, 2:24 PM
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HUGE STRATEGY PROBLEM. You don't have to have the best, highest rated players. You have to have a plan and get players to operate in that plan. I haven't seen a plan. I have discussed this before. This just keeps getting worse as players drop.
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Re: We’ve lost 6 of the 12 scholarship players from last season
Apr 16, 2019, 10:40 PM
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After last season, I had very high hopes we had turned a corner. Maybe we did, but we saw something we didn't want. It seems like the guys on the team quitting on the program Brad Brownell is trying to run. It seems like total chaos and a huge clusterf--- to me, and I love Basketball. Let's hope BB has a strategy that turns this thing around quickly, because the program is on death's doorstep and struggling for some semblance life, IMO.
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Re: We’ve lost 6 of the 12 scholarship players from last season
Apr 17, 2019, 7:03 PM
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"Death's doorstep"? Prone to a bit of hyperbole, are you?
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"Death's doorstep?" "Struggling for some semblance of life?"
Apr 17, 2019, 9:53 PM
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WHAT?
We just won 20 games for the second year in a row, finished tied for 8th in the ACC (out of 15 teams), and lost 6 conference games by a combined 11 points. A frustrating season of super close losses it was, but our program isn't in trouble as your dramatic post suggests.
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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You tell 'em, Missy. ***
Apr 16, 2019, 1:05 PM
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That was uncalled for***
Apr 16, 2019, 6:07 PM
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Re: That was uncalled for***
Apr 16, 2019, 7:02 PM
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How ya figure?
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All-TigerNet [5633]
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Maybe a little strong, BUT
Apr 16, 2019, 9:30 AM
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We stick by this guy when he's hurt & pay for his surgery/rehab and as soon as he's good to go, he bails?! Obviously don't know the whole story, but not a good optic IMO. So now another guy who would probably played alot of minutes is gone and we have 2 post players in Baehre & Jemison? Gonna be the Fightin' Pygmies before long...Thanks Brad---
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Thats what i don't get.... They'll be playing big minutes
Apr 16, 2019, 9:54 AM
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next year. Why leave? Unless they're currently courting other transfers for their positions and its a slap in the face kinda thing.
ITs what i find refreshing about Dabo not going after JuCo guys. It shows the guys on the current roster that they're invested in them and they're not looking for a Plan B.
But this transfer thing in Basketball is getting ridiculous. It happens everywhere but it seems in basketball everyone moves around.
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Orange Phenom [14535]
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Re: Thats what i don't get.... They'll be playing big minutes
Apr 16, 2019, 11:34 AM
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El Tigre...you nailed it buddy!
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 9:31 AM
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Another reason that Brad Brownell has to go. As it stands now, the team will not have enough players to have a 5 on 5 practice next season.
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110%er [3631]
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 11:13 AM
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Because our next coach can play two positions in the drills?
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 12:36 PM
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Does CBB just have these statements ready typed up just change the name every time it happens every single offseason, would love to see a list of every transfer since his arrival. Seems like every off season this happens atleast twice. Starting to get pathetic!
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Legend [6869]
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Here is the list, I posted awhile back
Apr 16, 2019, 1:42 PM
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1. Cory Stanton- after freshman year
2. TJ Sapp- after sophomore year
3. Devin Coleman- after redshirt sophomore year
4. Bernard Sullivan- after sophomore year
5. Adonis Filer- after sophomore year
6. Austin Ajukwa- after junior year
7. Patrick Rooks- after redshirt freshman year
8. Ty Hudson- after redshirt sophomore year
9. Scott Spencer-after sophomore year
10. Anthony Oliver- after redshirt freshman year
11. Javan White- graduate transfer
12. Malik William - after sophomore yr
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Orange Blooded [2591]
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Y’all see the little “postseason” comment he threw
Apr 16, 2019, 10:05 PM
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In there too? LMFAO@this guy
I just assume do away with the basketball program in general. White flag anyone? It’s absolutely embarrassing.
Have more concerts at LJ or invest more $ into the women’s program. $&@?, starting to sound like a damm shamecock
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Familiar with word "trend"?***
Apr 16, 2019, 6:08 PM
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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Cue the “Brad can’t recruit/evaluate talent/keep his players” posts.***
Apr 16, 2019, 9:39 AM
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Well those are the facts.
Apr 16, 2019, 10:18 AM
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It's not like these players are stuck behind all world players. Our talent pool is not great and they still leave.
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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Those aren't the facts, but thanks for your post.***
Apr 16, 2019, 11:09 AM
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Sorry to say Ms. Judge but the facts are staring you in the face.***
Apr 16, 2019, 11:36 AM
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Ring of Honor [23637]
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"But, you've got no arms!"
Apr 16, 2019, 11:43 AM
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They're beating him about the head and shoulders, punching him in the neck, mule-kicking him in The Jimmy and stomping his voice box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs
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Paw Master [16774]
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It means she's a woman. Ask her.
Apr 16, 2019, 6:10 PM
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Try to keep up, ace.
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Paw Master [16774]
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Seriously, are you 12? Or are you just a ####?***
Apr 16, 2019, 10:56 PM
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CU Guru [1698]
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Judge threw "missy" at Gville
Apr 16, 2019, 6:33 PM
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so Gville just tossed it back to Judge... interesting that Judge led the name calling, don't think that I have seen that before...
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Paw Master [16774]
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No, no he didn't, the time is right beside the post, JK
Apr 16, 2019, 10:55 PM
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returned the favor 90 minutes after he was called Ms, so he didn't in fact start anything, unless you think 1:05 pm comes before 11:36 am
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Re: Those aren't the facts, but thanks for your post.***
Apr 16, 2019, 1:43 PM
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So what's Brad's issue? If he's supposedly a good X&O coach and can recruit wouldn't we be in the tourney more than 2 out of 9 years?
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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Brad's main issue is that he coaches basketball at Clemson.
Apr 16, 2019, 2:05 PM
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Worst basketball history in the ACC.
Next to last in basketball funding in the ACC.
Among the worst in basketball attendance in the ACC.
The new facilities three years ago and the additional staff positions he was granted two years ago have certainly helped, because since then we've won 20 games in back to back seasons, been to a Sweet 16, and have our best recruiting class under Brad coming in this year.
Fans should be encouraged by these things, not acting like we are an ACC cellar dweller (we haven't been close to that under Brownell).
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110%er [8681]
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Re: Brad's main issue is that he coaches basketball at Clemson.
Apr 16, 2019, 3:34 PM
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We should be encouraged after a season that Brad couldn't make the tournament with his most experienced team during a year when the bubble was pretty weak?
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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Are we talking about this season or the program as a whole?
Apr 16, 2019, 4:07 PM
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This season was disappointing, but it wasn't awful. We won 20 games and missed the NCAA Tournament by the narrowest of margins. If we had literally had 2-3 plays go differently, we would've finished no worse than 6th in the ACC and been no worse than a 7 seed in the NCAAs.
Obviously there are no moral victories, and winning is what matters, but losing so many heartbreaking games this year (mostly to teams which we weren't supposed to beat) while beating the teams we were supposed to (usually by 10+ points) shouldn't cause so many people here to be so upset about the basketball program.
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CU Guru [1698]
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You do realize that Brad is leaving his own cupboard bare...
Apr 16, 2019, 6:41 PM
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which has been stated before except it was OP who supposedly left the cupboard bare for Brad.
This coming season holds little hope for even making the NIT let alone the NCAA, and that is a direct result of how Brad has run the program. Those 3 incoming freshmen are going to have to immediately become impact players, and according to their profiles, they should be, but it appears that Brad has not had an immediate impact freshman come into the program yet. If there is a freshman that Brad has brought in that has averaged 10 points, 8 rebounds or 5 assists as a either a true or redshirt freshman, please remind me. Otherwise, we are looking at minimal impact from players we are going to desperately need according to the trend of the past 9 seasons...
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Re: Those aren't the facts, but thanks for your post.***
Apr 16, 2019, 6:58 PM
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No, unfortunately, they are the facts. I'm guessing the players pick up on some uncertainty from BB. I'm guessing they don't see the ship righting itself any time soon. Yes they are kids, but unless you inspire them . . . .
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Surely you aren't serious.
Apr 16, 2019, 11:10 AM
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We would annihilate any intramural team in the country.
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It would probably be good if you dont expend too much energy trying to battle this.***
Apr 16, 2019, 11:34 AM
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All-TigerNet [5633]
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Calling BULL on that one Mrs. Judge Brownell
Apr 16, 2019, 12:53 PM
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You take that FB Intramural team that everyone is in love with and I bet that they beat our current eligible roster that is returning. I've never seen them play obviously, but sheer athleticism would be enough to overcome talent. Don't know if adding the 3 incoming freshmen would make a huge difference other than Dawes. J-Ross & T-Higgins are probably better than anyone we could dress right now.
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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This is hilarious!
Apr 16, 2019, 12:59 PM
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Just because Higgins and Ross are great football players, and played basketball in high school, and can dunk, you think they must be better than players we have on our current basketball roster?
That's hilarious!
Please remove "coach" from your T-Net handle immediately.
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Orange Blooded [2249]
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Re: This is hilarious!
Apr 16, 2019, 1:16 PM
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The real facts are that a few of the football players could have very well played big time college basketball. It just so happens that their love for football overrides those basketball feelings. To think some of these guys wouldn't straight dog a Skara or a White, you know actually scholarship players on the current basketball team, is hilarious.
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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Just because they are good athletes who can run
Apr 16, 2019, 1:34 PM
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and jump, and who had a good dunk at Fike posted on Instagram, you think that means they can play major college basketball?
Come on.
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National Champion [7826]
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could higgins have been a bonafide d1 b-ball prospect-
Apr 16, 2019, 1:40 PM
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probably to some degree but that shipped sailed several years ago. And I don't think any were going to get "Big time offer's". No one on the football team is going to be dogging Skara who was one of the best defenders in the ACC. They would hardly be able to receive a pass. You clearly don't understand the commitment and practice it takes to be a d1 player.
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Re: This is hilarious!
Apr 16, 2019, 2:01 PM
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Just flat out , NO.
When will you finish dissing our guys?
Higgins and Ross are world-class athletes who have spent several years developing the ability to use their physical advantages against shorter guys. On the other field.
Last time I checked, Skara and White are not shorter guys. And last time I checked, athleticism doesn't put the ball in the hole. Remember Dominique Wilkins, the Human Highlight Reel, who was incredibly talented at missing shots? If you, me, Skara, anybody can keep Tee more than 6 feet from the basket, he is only slightly above average compared to the general public, and he would be very amateurish compared to an active ACC roster.
In fact, I've seen church league teams that could beat Tee's intramural team if you could keep him away from the rim.
In fact, Skara might just take Tee in hand, since we haven't seen Tee's ability--or willingness--to play defense.
But that's right, defense is boring, and the entire ACC recognizes that Brownell's teams are good at it, so I guess we need to diss that, too.
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Paw Master [16774]
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Skara finished 3rd in DEFENSIVE Player of the Year ####, no
Apr 16, 2019, 3:55 PM
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football player is dogging him...Tee would be back on the practice field in a day
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Re: Surely you aren't serious.
Apr 16, 2019, 1:34 PM
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My goodness..do you have a redi-made list of retorts for absolutely ANY questions regarding our basketball program? I understand that there are many posters that go to the extreme but you seem to go on the other end of the continuum. He, Coach Brownell, and his program isn’t above reasonable questions/concerns, is he? I am not being an unreasonable jerk because I really respect you and your passion for our program but there are issues that warrant some concern, in my opinion.
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I don't disagree that there are issues that warrant concern.
Apr 16, 2019, 2:02 PM
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Namely, funding for our basketball program and dwindling crowds at our games.
We must also figure out a way to address the current environment in college basketball, where top recruits are often paid $$$ by handlers and only have to stay for one year, and all others can transfer on a whim if they don't find their situation perfect.
With that said, I still don't think our basketball team at Clemson would lose to an intramural team at any school. The notion that they would shows a complete lack of knowledge about what goes into being a high major basketball player.
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Athletic Dir [882]
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Re: I don't disagree that there are issues that warrant concern.
Apr 16, 2019, 2:52 PM
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I guess that is why I respect your posts. You are articulate and reasonable. I guess you must feel like you are the lone guard “standing at the gates”in your support of our basketball program. I admit, I am ignorant regarding our funding levels verses other teams and I’ll take you at your word that we are under funded as to be able to break through to the next level. Something has got to give....our guys deserve the best.
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CU Guru [1698]
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Amanda Butler just proved in the very same facilities
Apr 16, 2019, 6:53 PM
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that a strategy, good evaluations that put players in their best positions to get the most out of their talents, and good coaching can overcome the lack of administrative support and funding, small crowds and student apathy... she took the same players that Audra Smith absolutely failed with and coached them to an NCAA tournament invite. that's evidence enough that Brownell, as the center of the Clemson basketball universe, is not providing life giving light to the men's team...
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Re: I don't disagree that there are issues that warrant concern.
Apr 16, 2019, 4:08 PM
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You keep on bringing up “ no funding from the administration to the basketball program” 63.5 million dollars is a pretty good amount for a basketball arena/ basketball facilities! Brownell is not the answer! The Clemson basketball program is about the equivalent of the Miami football program minus the historic relevance.
If you put a poor product on the field/ court, there is going to be copious amounts of aluminum showing in the stands.
It’s not rocket science, in fact it’s simple, Brownell just isn’t that good of a coach and Clemson basketball isn’t that good of a program historically. Do yourself a favor and just watch football if basketball bothers you so much, it saves you from the heartache and advanced aging.
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They don't call us transfer u for nothing.***
Apr 16, 2019, 9:40 AM
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Re: They don't call us transfer u for nothing.***
Apr 16, 2019, 10:08 AM
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I didn't think "they" cared enough about Clemson basketball to call us anything.
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 9:51 AM
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9-21 basketball
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 11:09 AM
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Maybe the school should lower its academic expectations. Maybe make some classes optional. Or get attractive secretaries to teach.
Hey, no grounds for any speculation that Malik's problem with Clemson is the schoolwork. Or the coeds. But if speculation is the fodder of the bored, I'm all in.
Besides, it evidently works for the bluebloods. If beating Louisville, UNCheat and NC St (ok, not much blue in those veins, but they do have a chip) is our highest priority, you can't hang onto silly things like academic integrity.
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 9:58 AM
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Wrong one is leaving! Brad Brownell should be shown the exit door!!
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Orange Blooded [4607]
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Losing two front court players in one month
Apr 16, 2019, 10:12 AM
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That’s a concern, I don’t care how you spin it.
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Clemson Icon [27616]
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i have a strange feeling
Apr 16, 2019, 10:18 AM
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That Malik can be replaced! I assure you that Coach B.B. will bring in someone who scores more than two points a game. Your sky may be falling but mine is a beautiful orange every morning! Go Tigers
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Ring of Honor [23637]
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Many used to say how good he was in practice and
Apr 16, 2019, 10:20 AM
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when healthy, that he would be one of our better bigs.
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Many? Who is he? Gotta link?***
Apr 16, 2019, 12:18 PM
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Ring of Honor [23637]
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You're right. This will make us better.
Apr 16, 2019, 12:24 PM
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Good point.
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Paw Master [16774]
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Can you provide a link to where I said it would make us
Apr 16, 2019, 3:48 PM
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better? Or a link to back up your previous claim? Or do you just vomit these lies out with no proof?
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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He vomits the lies without proof.***
Apr 16, 2019, 4:08 PM
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Paw Master [16774]
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It would appear***
Apr 16, 2019, 4:28 PM
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Starter [386]
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You sir have an inherent inability
Apr 16, 2019, 6:16 PM
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to admit when you're wrong.
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Paw Master [16774]
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What exactly was I wrong about here Ace?***
Apr 16, 2019, 10:58 PM
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I'm hesitant to do that, based on his posts here.***
Apr 17, 2019, 9:54 PM
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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You're thinking about Jonathan Baehre.
Apr 16, 2019, 1:01 PM
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I haven't seen anyone say that about Malik William. He played sparingly as a freshman and was injured all of this year, so I don't know why anyone would say that.
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Legend [6869]
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he only played 4.4 minutes a game, and it was his freshman
Apr 16, 2019, 10:40 AM
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year. Therefore it is really unrealistic to extrapolate any data as to his potential. Also, its probably save to assume those 4 minutes werent continuous and was a minute here and there, hardly enough time to get in any sort of rhythm. Maybe BB can replace him, but as ive said before, where this hurts him is he is now playing catch up to replace another transfer with a freshman or transfer starting from scratch instead of building depth behind guys a year or 2 in the program with some continuity carry over. Where this really hurts is our bench. Maybe this guy never becomes a major contributor, but he could become a guy you can trust for a few minutes here or there as a bench player.
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Orange Blooded [2277]
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Re: i have a strange feeling
Apr 16, 2019, 7:01 PM
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It is not like the roster was full. Therefore, we should refer to the last person brought in to compare him to. If we had 3 scholarships available and now have 4 then we compare him to the worst of the 4 we bring in. If we don't fill the scholarships then we have to compare him to an empty chair. Regardless of his abilities, his loss makes us even worse.
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Ring of Honor [23637]
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Great news! Opens up a spot for another player
Apr 16, 2019, 10:10 AM
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that will transfer before reaching his potential.
Can someone explain how these transfers make us better? I'm sure there is a favorable spin that can be made.
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CU Medallion [18744]
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Goodness, is the slogan for Clemson basketball "All Out"?***
Apr 16, 2019, 10:18 AM
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110%er [6825]
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 10:38 AM
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I read this is that Baehre is winning the spot for most of the playing time and the other forwards are looking for time. What is Tyson doing?
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Ring of Honor [23637]
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Addition thru subtraction? So, Baehre will have to play 40
Apr 16, 2019, 10:41 AM
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minutes a game? We hear that addition thru subtraction mantra every year.
Good stuff.
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That's great and all but we saw this season what happens
Apr 16, 2019, 11:05 AM
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when there is no depth behind starters. At the current rate, all of the starters for next season will have to play close to, if not all, 40 minutes of every single game. Not a recipe for success or players' health.
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 11:47 AM
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At this point, the roster lists three forwards,three guards and one center with three more guards coming in as freshmen. The front court looks pretty thin at forward particularly if Baehre plays some center as a few others have speculated. Jemison will need to take a big step forward to make an impact next season.
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110%er [6825]
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 3:45 PM
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Bingo
The backcourt is the issue we should worry about. A 4 minute forward, ehhhh.
Still, we gave the ball away more than a veteran team should so maybe not all is lost with younger kids.
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 1:05 PM
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Baehre better be good the way he’s been hyped up around here. Lots of high expectations for that young man.
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CU Medallion [20662]
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7 ppg at Asheville the last time he played
Apr 16, 2019, 5:12 PM
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So I'm not counting on him being a game changer
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Paw Master [16774]
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That's triple what Malik averaged and people seem to be
Apr 16, 2019, 5:20 PM
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losing their #### about him leaving
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Ring of Honor [23637]
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All of the transfers get hyped while they sit out.
Apr 16, 2019, 5:45 PM
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Kind of a "wait til next year" approach. Surprised we are still SO dependent on the transfer market heading into year 10.
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Starter [386]
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Sigh***
Apr 16, 2019, 11:30 AM
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CU Medallion [20662]
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All I know is we'd better be grad transfer U
Apr 16, 2019, 12:43 PM
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this spring. We have zero front court depth as of this time, and no one who has played meaningful minutes at Clemson apart from Simms. We have no proven scorer at any position, no PG.......
Put out the word, major PT available in the ACC, come one, come all!
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All-In [10213]
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Re: All I know is we'd better be grad transfer U
Apr 16, 2019, 1:07 PM
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Any quality bball coach that DRad would potentially offer a job too would look at the state of our program and say no thanks! Any new coach would need no less than 3yrs to turn us into a normal looking roster and hopefully being competitive.
CBB has to use the portal because he can't keep his players long enough to train them up on his system. So he has to go out to get already college experienced kids, definitely not the way to build a program. You never get that nucleus of players that become leaders that drive the love of the program into the incoming guys. Then you have transfers that already have invested years at another school and knowing they only have one yr to play, they don't come in where they began to love the school through recruiting and don't have time to become truly invested.
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Frontcourt players see the writing on the wall...
Apr 16, 2019, 1:08 PM
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With this program. Brad said he would like to play 9 or 10 players many minutes next season, but has a history of playing mainly 7 or 8. Good luck Brad. You are going to need it...
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110%er [3766]
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Re: Frontcourt players see the writing on the wall...
Apr 16, 2019, 5:35 PM
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This past season, seven players logged 91% of the minutes, which included Trapp and Newman3 as the primary bench subs.
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Orange Elite [5238]
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Re: Frontcourt players see the writing on the wall...
Apr 17, 2019, 8:13 PM
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Williams was injured. Baehre was ineligible. White had a lot of development left to do and wasn't ready. What do you expect?
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CU Guru [1149]
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Just for chits and giggles, has anyone considered that
Apr 16, 2019, 12:59 PM
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Brownell may have told him it's in his best interest if he transfers? I have no idea if that's the case but maybe the coaches have their eye on a guy who wants to transfer in or maybe this kid wasn't contributing to cohesion in the locker room or...
Just playing devil's advocate. I agree the situation doesn't look great but someone else mentioned the revolving door in college basketball these days and there's something to that. A lot of these guys have no concept of their own limitations as players or any concept of stick-to-it-iveness.
He had to know he was in position to play a lot more minutes the next couple of years so it had to be something else, and not necessarily because Brownell is a jerk or whatever. But, what the heck do I know. Like I said, devil's advocate.
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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Nope, that isn't possible.
Apr 16, 2019, 1:04 PM
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The only reasons for this are that Brownell doesn't recruit well, doesn't develop players well, and doesn't know his players well. He's a horrible coach and many here could do better than he has.
If you submit any other reasons for consideration, you are just a Brownell lover and are completely oblivious to the fact that our basketball program is horrible and terrible and basically the worst team in any sport in the NCAA.
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All-In [10213]
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Re: Nope, that isn't possible.
Apr 16, 2019, 1:14 PM
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I've been a CBB supporter but unfortunately it is time for a change. We were middle of the pack with Tommy Bowden but obviously the right coach can change that dramatically. It would take a lot longer for football coach to build a team than a basketball coach. I think 9yrs is long enough to see what CBB has to offer. Obviously the fans are bored with mediocre results, it's time for a change.
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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You lost me at the Tommy Bowden/football comparison.***
Apr 16, 2019, 1:35 PM
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110%er [3631]
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Just to play the righteous intercessor...
Apr 16, 2019, 7:02 PM
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there is no reason for Brownell to tell William to pack up and move on because he already had open scholly's to give to other prospects without losing any more players. Whatever the issue may be to William's development would still fall on Brownell because William is his recruited player, who would at least provide a body for practice even if a player comes in who would supplant William...
In short, to run William off would be short-sighted and unnecessary...
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CU Guru [1149]
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Unless...like I said before...the coaches already know
Apr 17, 2019, 10:22 AM
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they have his spot filled by as good or better player.
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You can tell it's a big loss
Apr 16, 2019, 3:24 PM
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When his highlight picture for the article is pre-game stretching
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I'm sorry, HOO?***
Apr 16, 2019, 3:28 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 4:41 PM
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Malik William has played virtually zero at Clemson. I don't believe he got on the floor in a game this past season/year. I am curious as to what ailment or injury curtailed his activity--he did dress, I believe. If not an impairment, then who recruited him thinking he would contribute to an ACC roster?
We likely will never know the rational for his absence from playing time,
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Team Captain [479]
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Re: TNET: Clemson forward to transfer
Apr 16, 2019, 4:59 PM
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I read William had a concussion in pre-season.
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Dynasty Maker [3496]
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but they CANT want to transfer-we have
Apr 16, 2019, 5:30 PM
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Facilities now!!!!
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Clemson Icon [27616]
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My guess.......
Apr 16, 2019, 8:26 PM
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William thinks he’s a better player than he really is! OR, maybe he realizes he isn’t an ACC player. In any event, someone will take his place in the lineup.
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