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Rock Defender [54]
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Oh Deer Lowered!
Oct 15, 2012, 7:27 AM
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"All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies from the pit of hell...I don't believe the Earth's but about 9,000 years old."
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Rep. Paul Broun, who serves on the House Science, Space and Technology Committee.
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Ring of Honor [32958]
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How dare you question such a great American!?***
Oct 15, 2012, 7:32 AM
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Funny part about all that...
Oct 15, 2012, 7:48 AM
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he represents Athens, Ga. l0l!
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Rock Defender [54]
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Shocker, there.***
Oct 15, 2012, 2:57 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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I like it Clone. That is kind of a shocker coming from you.
Oct 15, 2012, 6:54 PM
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Not sure if you are being serious tho.
Are you a believer/Christian?
Prod, what is your denomination?
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Awesome. Wish I could vote for him.
Oct 15, 2012, 7:52 AM
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Maybe I should send a few bucks his way anyway.
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Rock Defender [54]
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A fool and is money
Oct 15, 2012, 8:03 AM
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are a menace to society, and should be parted by any means necessary. So send you donation today!
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Ring of Honor [32958]
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Save it. Apparently, there are more than enough true
Oct 15, 2012, 8:06 AM
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believers in his district to keep him in office.
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Re: You're a young-earther?***
Oct 15, 2012, 10:15 AM
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But that doesn't answer the question.
Oct 15, 2012, 10:44 AM
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Some people call themselves Bible-believers but think the planet is billions of years old.
Other Bible-believers think the planet is only a few thousand years old.
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I believe the Bible literally, including the genealogies.
Oct 15, 2012, 10:56 AM
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So I believe we can pinpoint fairly accurately how long ago God created the earth. But who's to say, when created it, he didn't create it aged?
I don't get hung up over the age of the earth, because that doesn't have much of anything to do with my faith. God creating the heavens and the earth has a lot to do with it, though.
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Thanks, that clarifies your first answer.
Oct 15, 2012, 11:04 AM
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Now it's clear why the term "young-earther" might not be correct for you, since you think that maybe the planet was created old (although I'm baffled at the concept).
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God created adult humans; I believe he crated adult animals.
Oct 15, 2012, 11:07 AM
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I believe he created fully grown plant life. I don't think it's a big leap to think he created a generally "adult" planet. One of those things I can't claim to know until I get to heaven.
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Rock Defender [54]
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I thought crating pets was a fairly new thing.
Oct 15, 2012, 11:10 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Yes.
Oct 15, 2012, 11:20 AM
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Not anything close to a majority, of course. But there is such a segment of the population.
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Rock Defender [54]
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would you say, more, or less, than the percentage that
Oct 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
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Believe in ghosts, greek mythology, or space ships?
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Oh, I don't know. Don't think Greek mythology
Oct 15, 2012, 11:45 AM
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Is actually believed by many people these days. Ghosts and space ships? Probably more.
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Ring of Honor [32958]
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Last poll I saw said 46% of Americans believe in
Oct 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
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creationism. Not sure how many of those believe in the <10K years, but I suspect a goodly bunch.
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# who believe the Bible literally is much lower, I'm sure.
Oct 15, 2012, 11:54 AM
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# who actually believe the Bible literally is probably less than the # who would claim to believe the Bible literally.
That's one of those things people like to say without being fully aware of what it entails.
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Re: # who believe the Bible literally is much lower, I'm sure.
Oct 15, 2012, 12:59 PM
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That's one of those things people like to say without being fully aware of what it entails.
Yup. Or they disagree about what it entails. (Many think that Genesis can be read to allow for millions of years of evolution.)
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The issue with that, from a traditional
Oct 15, 2012, 1:10 PM
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standpoint, is that evolution throws the ideas of original sin and death entering the world through sin, out of whack.
Evolution requires pain, death, and suffering in the absence of sin, since man didn't show up until later.
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I dunno.***
Oct 15, 2012, 12:57 PM
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110%er [5156]
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I guess I should have phrased it
Oct 15, 2012, 1:08 PM
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"Do you have a problem or disagreement with the scientific establishment's approximation of a 14 billion year old universe?"
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Rock Defender [54]
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Look no further than to Jesus first miracle.
Oct 15, 2012, 12:35 PM
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turning the water into wine at the wedding feast. It wasn't wine in a box either. It was the good stuff that had been aged.
Jesus took water, and not only made it into wine, he made it into find, AGED wine.
Stands to reason, that God himself could make a rock "old".
What is "time" to God?
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I believe God created the heavens and the earth.
Oct 15, 2012, 12:19 PM
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I do not believe anything that contradicts that.
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And created all living things, of course.***
Oct 15, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Sickening***
Oct 15, 2012, 9:18 AM
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I have to add,
Oct 15, 2012, 9:44 AM
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If you want to question abiogenesis or the big bang theory, that's fine; they are as scrutinized and debatable as anything you will find among the sciences. "Lies straight from Hell" might be a bit harsh, particularly from someone who sits on the US House science committee.
However, for a trained gynecologist to suggest that embryology is a lie designed by Satan to send people to Hell is a level of insanity that surpasses fellow science committee member Todd Akin's own staggering height of ignorance. I guess it's not enough that we have concrete evidence of the entire process of embyrology from pre-conception to the trip through the birth canal; either this congressman was shamelessly pandering to uneducated constituents, or he went to medical school in the 1800's. Evolution is proven fact as well; don't believe in it? Lovely, don't feel obliged to get that flu vaccine every year.
Is it too much to ask for those elected to oversee the direction and funding of the sciences in the US actually understand and acknowledge our modern scientific understanding? Belief in your religion is great, but when your beliefs automatically discredit geology, anthropology, archaeology, biology, medicine, pathology, pharmacology, astronomy, chemistry, physics, and virtually every other field of science, perhaps you should recuse yourself from national science leadership roles.
Is that too much to ask?
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Ring of Honor [32958]
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He's a politician. Who can really know if he's a moron,
Oct 15, 2012, 9:54 AM
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or just panders to those who vote for him?
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Stupid, or evil? Always the question with politicians.
Oct 15, 2012, 10:15 AM
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And don't rule out "C. Both."
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Pretty shameful.****
Oct 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
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