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I'd be more apt to think Mike Bellamy than Dyer.
Jul 10, 2013, 11:14 AM
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It's not a matter of giving the kids another chance. The issue is the damage either of them could cause to Clemson University by putting a known 'bad apple,' in such a barrel of high character quality of players.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: I'd be more apt to think Mike Bellamy than Dyer.
Jul 10, 2013, 11:52 AM
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Bellamy hasn't really done anything like Dyer has. Remember - Dyer and Lattimore were #1-2 coming out of HS - so YES we could use a Dyer in the backfield. Dabo is probably one of the few coaches on the planet to be able to actually make it work with Dyer. Dabo is NOT your normal coach in that I think he actually genuinely cares about his players. Dyer could use that type of coach right about now.
My vote is YES if Dabo is willing to do that. Dabo may have other plans though - so his decision is fine with me.
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Oculus Spirit [94221]
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You hit the nail on the head.
Jul 10, 2013, 12:02 PM
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It's Dabo decision. He's a people person and certainly has our players conduct as a top priority. If Dabo gives the kid a shot I'll become a Dyer fan.
However, I don't buy into the concept that we need Dyer.
I think HotRod is better than Ellington.
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Oculus Spirit [94221]
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^^^finally somebody who gets it***
Jul 10, 2013, 12:07 PM
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Orange Blooded [3178]
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No .......
Jul 10, 2013, 11:15 AM
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next question
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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Same answer the first time this question was posed
Jul 10, 2013, 11:16 AM
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hell no
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CU Guru [1895]
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NO!***
Jul 10, 2013, 11:16 AM
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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Probably can't afford him***
Jul 10, 2013, 11:20 AM
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Oculus Spirit [94221]
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I disagree.
Jul 10, 2013, 11:28 AM
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I can afford to skydive but I'm not paying to take on the risk. When I assumed risk I gained, not lost, wealth.
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CU Medallion [64621]
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If you tried it, you'd love it......
Jul 10, 2013, 11:40 AM
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and it is significantly safer than you might imagine.
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Hall of Famer [22404]
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Synthetic marijuana?
Jul 10, 2013, 11:51 AM
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Re: Synthetic marijuana?
Jul 10, 2013, 12:17 PM
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I grew out of the organic stuff almost 40 years ago. I'm down to only licking a xanax during tight football games.
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Hall of Famer [22404]
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I might need to try that.
Jul 10, 2013, 12:20 PM
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I can get a little stressed out during a close game. 
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Oculus Spirit [94221]
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Woah, woah, woah...
Jul 10, 2013, 12:32 PM
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I'm not recommending drugs to deal with healthy anxiety. I've had 8 heart attacks, two zipper packages which included 8 bypasses.
In order to continue to survive I have to keep my BP in the 120(-) to 65(-) range. I haven't had a xanax in more than a month. They are dangerously addictive. Fool with that devil and you'll soon find you can only sleep four hours at a time and only when you've taken a 'pill.'
Enjoy the elevated heartrate and nose bleed causing blood pressure. That's why we love the game.
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Re: Should Clemson give Michael Dyer another chance?
Jul 10, 2013, 11:21 AM
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NO
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Interesting. The article does a good job of advocating for
Jul 10, 2013, 11:24 AM
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Dyer.
Glad I wouldn't have to be put in that position and definitely would trust Dabo's judgment. Off hand, despite the article and Dr. Hill's endorsement, I have a hard time justifying bringing in a kid who was kicked off of an SEC school's roster after he performed so well on the field, then booted from Arkansas State. The perception alone would be a lot to deal with. I also trust our running backs, who both chose Clemson and have done all that Clemson has asked of them.
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Oculus Spirit [94221]
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I'm surprised SOS and scar are not all over him.***
Jul 10, 2013, 11:29 AM
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Re: Should Clemson give Michael Dyer another chance?
Jul 10, 2013, 11:24 AM
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hell no
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He’s been misunderstood ?!?!?!
Jul 10, 2013, 11:28 AM
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So his failed drug tests, gun and marijuana possession arrests were all just BIG misunderstandings?
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CU Medallion [64621]
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That said.....
Jul 10, 2013, 11:32 AM
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I think I would roll the dice and take a chance on the kid if he was willing to walk-on but I would make it abundantly clear to him that he was on a very, very, very short leash. If there was even a hint of impropriety, he'd be gone.
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Re: That said.....
Jul 10, 2013, 11:34 AM
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Yep bring him in with zero tolerance. Nothing to lose if he works great if he is a distraction he is gone
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Wasn't it one failed drug test for marijuana, no gun issues
Jul 10, 2013, 11:33 AM
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and a speeding ticket?
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CU Medallion [64621]
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I don't think there is a team in the $EC.....
Jul 10, 2013, 11:36 AM
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that will permanently dismiss a player for one failed drug test. Most $EC schools, including $CU, have a four strikes before you're out policy.
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It appears he was dismissed because his legal gun was used
Jul 10, 2013, 11:49 AM
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in a crime. He was dismissed at Arkansas State after a traffic stop in which the officer dumped out some marijuana he found and improperly confiscated a legal unloaded handgun from his trunk. The officer was fired and Malzahn cut him loose.
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CU Medallion [64621]
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Yes but I am referring to the failed drug test....
Jul 10, 2013, 12:07 PM
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that got him booted from Auburn.
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It was both. Here is an excerpt from an SI article.
Jul 10, 2013, 12:36 PM
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A star during Auburn’s BCS championship season, Dyer transferred to Arkansas State after he was indefinitely suspended by coach Gene Chizik following a failed drug test in 2011. He later testified in court to having his gun used in a March 2011 robbery by four of his Tigers teammates, and, once at Arkansas State, was dismissed by coach Gus Malzahn for another run-in with the law: Dyer was pulled over for speeding and had a gun confiscated from his car.
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Oculus Spirit [94221]
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It's clear, most folks don't understand Mickey.
Jul 10, 2013, 11:34 AM
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He believes the rules don't apply to him. He's above rules and anything else that encumbers his efforts and desire to self satisfaction.
Many adolescent children go through the same stage of growth, it's normal behavior. FOR A GATDAN TWO YEAR OLD!
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Re: He’s been misunderstood ?!?!?!
Jul 10, 2013, 11:35 AM
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Dabo got a big enough job of keeping what he has got straight probably
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Nothing Sammy hasn't done (well, not the gun thing).
Jul 10, 2013, 12:04 PM
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But we took him back with open arms, why not Dyer?
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Re: Should Clemson give Michael Dyer another chance?
Jul 10, 2013, 11:31 AM
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People can grow up and change. I would give him a look and give him a grey shirt and make him earn his scholarship. Put him on a tight leash and see if it works. The guys is super talented and was the BCS MVP. I think it is worth looking!
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Sounds like a win/win if told he has 0 times to mess up.
Jul 10, 2013, 11:43 AM
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People change. People grow. High school to college and college to career are big jumps. He could help us out.
GO TIGERS!!!!!!!
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Nope!***
Jul 10, 2013, 11:45 AM
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Is he interested in us ? Did we miss out on recruiting him
Jul 10, 2013, 11:46 AM
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outta high school ?
I'd talk to our existing backs and based on that conversation . . .
No better place than at Clemson to get great leadership in CDS and have a lot of support to continue turning a life around.
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I looked back on the recruiting sites and don't see where
Jul 10, 2013, 12:57 PM
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we offered or he had any interest.
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#### Yes.***
Jul 10, 2013, 11:49 AM
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if the opportunity presented itself.......why not?***
Jul 10, 2013, 11:52 AM
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Look how that strategy helped the Patriots...
Jul 10, 2013, 12:53 PM
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not good
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I trust Dyer more than Bart
Jul 10, 2013, 12:55 PM
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Yesterday, there was a awful big headlining article by Bart in our local Sun-news - 'Can Clemson get past its stigma"? In the whole article, not one word was mentioned about LSU win, which in most of the media's mind got us past the "stigma" of "pulling another Clemson.". Where has Bart been? He has an agenda against our Tigers from what little I have read. GO TIGERS. GO AWAY BART!
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Re: Should Clemson give Michael Dyer another chance?
Jul 10, 2013, 1:27 PM
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Nothing against Dyer, but I feel like our guys have paid their dues and it's their time in the spotlight.
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Re: Should Clemson give Michael Dyer another chance?
Jul 10, 2013, 1:44 PM
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I like the article that asks if we can think of another backfield that needs someone like Dyer more than Clemson. Uh...yeah, there's one right down the road in Columbia that's full of unproven talent too, Bart.
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Hey, ol bart wright always has Clemson's best interest at heart!!!***
Jul 10, 2013, 1:47 PM
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