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Orange Elite [5371]
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Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:49 PM
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I say no. What you think?
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:51 PM
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Depends on how much of the current roster and staff stays in tack.
Their schedule is third toughest in the SEC this upcoming season I believe, and they open up be UGA in conference play after playing @ Wisky. Will certainly be a tough first year for him.
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Orange Beast [6550]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:52 PM
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No matter who it is they want make it 3 years.
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Clemson Icon [26931]
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Way too early to tell.
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:54 PM
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All hires are gambles. Only a few turn out to be really good hires. Only a miniscule few turn out to be great hires.
But, if you want to feel good about them not making a great hire, Paul Finebaum seems anything but elated about the hire. He's trying to put on a good front, but you can see he's disappointed.
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Orange Elite [5371]
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Re: Way too early to tell.
Jan 12, 2024, 5:15 PM
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Yep I was thinking the same. He looks like he’s lost his last friend.
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Paw Warrior [4709]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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I don't think that Alabama could possibly hit a home run after St. Nick, but Deboer is an very solid hire. We will have to wait and see how he does in his new environs.
Half a dozen SEC programs are looking to feast on Bama's bones - and move up the ladder.
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Clemson Icon [24892]
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Tell 'em 5-7 coot, no one knows losing better than you
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:28 PM
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NOTHING since 1969
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CU Guru [1538]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:55 PM
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Yes.
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Game Changer [1679]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:27 PM
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Home run hire for the rest of the SESleaze. Bammer is falling!!
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Orange Beast [6437]
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I see it going about as well as Harsin at Aubie
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:56 PM
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Good luck tide.....
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Game Changer [2037]
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Re: I see it going about as well as Harsin at Aubie
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:58 PM
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I hope they fall lower than the coots.
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Solid Orange [1346]
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Re: I see it going about as well as Harsin at Aubie
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How? How is this guy not an elite coach? He went 28-2 in two years at a school he took over that was 4-8 the previous year. This man wins. All he does is win. He’s had 11+ seasons in all but three years coaching. 105-12 is #### impressive. This isn’t Harsin. Harsin never coached P5 before Auburn.
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Solid Orange [1346]
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Re: I see it going about as well as Harsin at Aubie
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Who gave this a TD? It’s truth…
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I did. I don't like you.***
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:57 PM
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No. I was not impressed with Washington against Meeeeechigan.
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Campus Hero [13855]
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So no credit for going 14-1 and making a title game
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:31 PM
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at Washington?
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Orange Elite [5371]
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Re: So no credit for going 14-1 and making a title game
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Jan 13, 2024, 11:05 AM
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I just think he’ll find the competition a lot tougher going forward.
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Game Changer [1758]
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Re: So no credit for going 14-1 and making a title game
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Jan 13, 2024, 11:48 AM
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Obviously he is going to face tougher competition in the SEC, but he going to have far more resources to work with at Alabama.
The guy is a rising star……it is a good hire.
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Clemson Icon [24011]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 4:58 PM
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K. De Boer the door....durrr hurrr.
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:00 PM
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I mean with the info we have right now... He has done a whole lot with not a ton of talent in a place that tough to recruit to. Have to say thats at least something to work with.
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Jan 13, 2024, 11:45 AM
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I think he had equal or greater talent to every team he played Michigan included. Not saying he isn’t a good coach but Penix is Elite
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Ryan Grubb is "secret" of his success, so hard to say yes
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I live in Seattle and watched the Huskies a lot the last few seasons. The secret of their success is Ryan Grubb, their OC. He coached Penix, has been with Deboer forever. I think their relationship is similar to Tommy Bowden and Rich Rod back in their Tulane and early Clemson days. When Rich left for WVA, things went south quick for Tommy. I think same situation here. Of course, Deboer can afford to hire whoever he wants now that he has Bama resources.
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:03 PM
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I don't know, but the dude has won everywhere he has coached.
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Clemson Conqueror [11394]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 6:43 PM
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104-12 in nine years.
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Paw Master [17032]
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Agree
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:06 PM
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I think both parties will regret this hire. Not the right fit or the right time.
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Legend [7077]
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:08 PM
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Dude can coach for sure. You don’t accumulate a record like his by not knowing what you’re doing.
Does that translate into success at Bama where there’s more to it than just coaching ability? Can’t say but I would take him over Sark or Norvell.
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CU Medallion [18415]
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Well, we snagged the hot new OC from last year's losing Natty
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:09 PM
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contender, and I suppose the jury is still out on that one a season later, so we'll see.
Having said that, Streeter was no Saban. Anything less than perfect will be a Double or less. Nothing personal to boot, but I hope he struggles and Dabo works his magic on recruits we could have lost to them otherwise.
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CU Guru [1596]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:18 PM
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I don't know enough about him (as a coach) to say for sure, but recent history is full of "up and coming" coaches that didn't become the legends people thought. They didn't get to coach at Alabama, so maybe there is hope. However, I remember all of these being the next big thing:
Scott Frost
Major Applewhite
Clay Helton
Jim McElwain
Kevin Sumlin
Sonny Dykes
Chip Kelly
Derek Dooley AND Butch Jones AND Jermy Pruitt (sorry Tennessee)
Will Muschamp
Charlie Strong
Dan Mullen
Willie Taggart
Mike Riley
Josh Heupel - Hope for Tennessee yet..
Kliff Kingsbury
Pat Fitzgerald
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Orange Elite [5371]
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:33 PM
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Need to add….. Tom Herman to that list!!
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:29 PM
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I’d never really heard of him. West coast football ends too late for me. At first I thought he was the coach at nc state but I was mistaken. There is no way a coach can stand the level of scrutiny. Look at Dabo and the criticism he took for not going undefeated the last few years. And that is with a good supportive fanbase. Multiply that exponentially. Total lose situation. At least he’s getting paid well.
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Game Changer [1990]
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Jan 13, 2024, 6:52 AM
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It’s this. Guy can coach but can be deal with the meat grinder that is Alabama. Those folks are unhinged. He 100 percent should take the shot and the money, but success is measured as Natty only there every year
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Athletic Dir [1132]
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Jan 13, 2024, 11:51 AM
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Should have leveraged more money at UW and built his program there. UW has plenty of money and are going to the other power conference with an easier path to the cfp.
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Orange Blooded [2467]
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:30 PM
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Only if he is allowed to bring his OC with him. The OC at Washington has been with DeBoer for a while. That would mean Alabama puts Tommy Rees out the door. That’s a big deal for Bama. Rees was high enough on the list to be considered for HC.
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:31 PM
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I say an interim 2-4 year coach at best.
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Jan 12, 2024, 5:41 PM
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Long as he beats Auburn every year
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Jan 12, 2024, 7:15 PM
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Great coach...wrong fit.
He may ride the wave Hatfield did for a few years, but I'm interested to see how he recruits in the South. I think Lanning would've been perfect for them....much like Kirby for uga
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Lanning is in a good spot at oregon. He will have at least 1 more possibly 2 more chances at Bama job in next 10 years.
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Jan 12, 2024, 7:16 PM
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He is in a no win situation. Hope he has a great buyout. Why someone would want to follow Saban is mind boggling imo.
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Because Saban isn’t leaving. He’s only stepping down as head coach. He will still have his office in the stadium and will be mentoring the next coach.
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Jan 12, 2024, 7:22 PM
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They guy has won every place he's been. Remains to be seen if he is a good fit at Bama. He's going to be aided by the fact that with the expanded playoff, he can get away with a loss (maybe two) and still have a shot at a title.
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Jan 12, 2024, 7:27 PM
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Bama will get the 2 loss cushion.
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Jan 12, 2024, 7:29 PM
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I don’t see why not I mean, now he’s open to the entire nation recruiting. He built a good program up in Washington in two years. They say he’s a players coach
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There's only one Nick Saban, but I like the hire***
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Jan 12, 2024, 8:40 PM
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Kind of reminds me of the Bryan Harsin hire at Auburn. Very successful coach at Boise st but never could acclimate or fit into the football culture here in the south. Only time will tell.
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
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Depends on what you consider a home run. A coach that will win 5-6 SEC titles I. 10 years and 2-3 National Titles in 10 years then yes. If you mean the standard set by Saban then no but that would be no one. There won’t be another Sabanin the college football world again. That is why he left. He could see that.
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Orange Blooded [3934]
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Jan 12, 2024, 11:30 PM
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They will run his asre out of town. It won't take long and it won't matter what his record will be. They are beyond spoiled and they will run him off. My guess is he lasts either 4 or 5 years.
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Ask Again
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…in three years. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this, but there’s just no way to predict given the insane transformation of CFB.
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What does this have to do with Clemson.
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Jan 13, 2024, 1:32 AM
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Signed,
Clemson.
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Yes***
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We will see...don't count you chickens...well you know...unless it is poultry from Columbia and they don't really count anyway...math challenged!
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Orange Blooded [2566]
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You don't "replace" a generational coach. Clemson moves back to the epicenter of CFB. Alabama will just be "Clemson West" from here on out. But the guy probably is the best one they could've gotten, looking at his record of success.
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Jan 13, 2024, 11:36 AM
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I do not believe there is any coach that can sustain what Saban did there in the new college football. I do not think saban could do it either. Too much tampering with young players.
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Jan 13, 2024, 11:51 AM
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1st Boer War with Auburn should be interesting.
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
Jan 13, 2024, 11:58 AM
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How can u say no???
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Jan 13, 2024, 2:10 PM
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Time will tell but the dude has never done anything but win…a lot!
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Re: Is DeBoer a home run hire for Alabama?
Jan 13, 2024, 2:17 PM
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I say no. What you think?
You can say anything but the answer is no one knows for sure. Most coaches wash out
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