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Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 8:20 AM
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the entire 2nd half and we didn’t throw one slant. Not one……let that sink in
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0 points - 1st half against VT ... 0 points 99.9% of 2nd half against Pitt
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Nov 18, 2024, 8:34 AM
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Very expensive 7 points Cade got there at the end.
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Re: 0 points - 1st half against VT ... 0 points 99.9% of 2nd half against Pitt
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Nov 18, 2024, 8:52 AM
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It kind of sucks when we have to play better teams 
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 9:07 AM
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You should send him your input. Clearly you know more about play calling than he does.
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LOL, some of yall act like football is akin to brain surgery.
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Nov 18, 2024, 9:12 AM
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Its really not that complicated a game.
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Re: LOL, some of yall act like football is akin to brain surgery.
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Nov 18, 2024, 9:21 AM
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You’re right anyone can do it. Just ask ridgelandbooster and Jedi if you don’t believe me. They clearly should be getting paid to do it.
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Re: LOL, some of yall act like football is akin to brain surgery.
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Nov 18, 2024, 10:22 AM
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You never bring anything to a discussion. Everyone sees that but you.....delete your account.
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Re: LOL, some of yall act like football is akin to brain surgery.
Nov 18, 2024, 11:52 AM
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Well designed plays are fun to watch. Not rocket science but there is definitely a difference between the can’s and cannots. Kiffin and Sark can flat out design some good stuff.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 9:10 AM
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I was screaming it all fourth quarter. Moore was in perfect position to gain leverage on a slant and they all ran seam, stick, and a late crosser which was covered by the time it came across. We could have also leaked Brinny out to vacated spot and never did.
I also notice EVERYTIME someone goes zero coverage and walk 8 in the box we run the A gap. Zero down field shots with single high or zero coverage.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 10:06 AM
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Bingo. It was like the definition of insanity--Riley was running this time after time and getting stoned...I think we had something like 4 net yards rushing in the second half or something like that....just mind-boggling.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 10:30 AM
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The G.Riley offense is very predictable.
Maybe this is unfair, since the G.Riley offense allows the QB to choose from several different options on most plays (I should say on most passing plays); CK2 has a bit of tunnel vision problem during these plays. He apparently has decided pre-snap where he wants to throw it.
It’s not like all but one of the WR routes are decoy routes.
Maybe this is unfair; perhaps the reason why so many of his mid-to-long downfield passes are late is because he’s looking for targets other than his pre-determined preferred target.
Back to the run plays. These are very predictable. Unless our OL opens big holes frequently, then our run game is very bad. Let’s be candid here. Mafah isn’t a quick-in-the-hole jump cut RB. He’s got a little move when he sees daylight and this part of his game is excellent. But he is not the kind of back that can cut off an inside run call and bounce it outside for a meaningful gain.
Therefore, the almost-always variation in the run game is when the WR in motion gets the handoff.
CK2 running the ball is THE variation in our run game. He’s not good at breaking tackles, and thus he is not a reliable option in run-game play calls or RPO options such as Stanford’s QB or GA Tech’s QB … or as S.Carol8na’s QB … can be as a reliable variable in their run game.
Despite these limitations, a top notch OC will make adjustments in the offense to accommodate the skill players’ limitations. I’m still waiting to see that facet of G.Riley’s expertise.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 10:32 AM
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The other thing you brought up, which is interesting, is why we leaned exclusively on Mafah and didn't use Haynes as a change of pace back......I simply don't understand the thought process here.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 12:49 PM
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This is not G. Riley's offense, this is Clemson's offense. Take a look @ Tcu's offense when riley was there, Not even close to being the same. What you see is what Dabo wants you to see. Riley aint your problem, the issue is higher up the chain. Wouldn't be suprised if riley moves on soon enough..
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 10:36 AM
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Jedi, I totally agree. Other teams were just come in the middle of the field and sit down on the defense and wait on the ball and catch it on us every time but we don’t run the first slant or wheel route.
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Yes if THAT equals a $2.2 mm paycheck from Clemson !!!***
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Nov 18, 2024, 9:35 AM
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 10:27 AM
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Way overrated. We def got hosed on this coordinator. I’m assuming briles was the brains. I’m sure the lack of o line confidence affected this past weekend but I haven’t been impressed with gr. I expected pace and tempo and rhythm. Instead we are back to safa.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
Nov 18, 2024, 10:47 AM
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After some offensive success against some extremely bad football teams, many were already discussing Riley's head coaching opportunity's next year.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
Nov 18, 2024, 11:16 AM
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The offense was better. Cade was going through progressions. Plays were varied.
At and After Louisville, the team regressed.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
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Nov 18, 2024, 11:00 AM
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As others have said as well, I thought the Garrett Riley hire was a good one. However, his inability to monitor & adjust to what the defense is doing shows serious lack of experience. Our game plans are not well designed at times. We are too basic, predictable, and easy to game plan for.
I attended the Louisville game, and that was an eye opener for me. It was obvious that our execution was much better at a faster tempo, but we quickly reverted to a moderate pace. Then, with under 10 minutes to play and trailing by 19, we went to a snail’s pace as if we had the lead. No urgency whatsoever.
Whether that’s Riley or Dabo, as some have suggested, it needs to change. Dabo is the HC, so ultimately it’s on him.
We are better than we are playing. Or put another way, we can play much better, but we simply aren’t at peak efficiency as we should be at this stage of the season.
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Nov 18, 2024, 11:26 AM
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I think we were ALL fooled by the Riley hire. Too many short passes. He has NO understanding of the
vertical game, or DEEP ball game. The Tight End is always open in the flat with play-action. Where is Briningstool in the flat? That's coaching. Dabo is certainly going to have to re-evalute these two guys in the off-season. For certain, ONE needs to be fired.
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I am with you all
Nov 18, 2024, 11:46 AM
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I don’t know who is calling the plays, or the tempo, but it SUCKS. I thought we had figured some things out middle of the season (app st, nc st stretch), but we are definitely back to the painful, anemic offense of the past 3 years. And we wonder why the recruits are looking elsewhere.
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Nov 18, 2024, 11:18 AM
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Riley isn't a good OC. He's had 2 years to prove it. NO points in the 2nd half, and without Cade's miracle run, and let's face it, that was a MIRACLE. Sometimes they happen, but not in most cases. Pitt seemingly had the game won. Garrett Riley is marginal (average) as a an Offensive playcaller, certainly not a brilliant one. I never trusted Wes Goodwin with Clemson having only 17 points late in the game, and his defense confirmed my concerns with Pitt taking the lead 20-17. He almost screwed it up with less than a minute to go after Cade's run, and Pitt moved the ball with scary ease with so little time. My 2024 season assessment? Goodwin has to go, and Riley should be on the HOT seat for sure. Both coordinators have hurt Clemson's chances. They'll beat Citadel for a record of 9-2. The USC game is a concern, but I don't think Clemson will blow another mental/physical preparing for a home game at Death Valley like the Louisville fiasco. Therefore, I'm picking the Tigers to pull it off, with a 10-2 final record. SMU won't go undefeated in their 1st year of being in the ACC, but could still play in the ACCGC. Miami could possibly lose at Syracuse, and that puts Clemson in the ACC Title game against SMU. The Tigers shouldn't consider being an at-large team, because there's too many 2 loss teams to compete with. Just run the 2 game table, and hope for a Miami loss. Two Big 10 teams in the top ten could lose Saturday: Penn State at Minnesota, Indiana at Ohio State.(No way Indiana goes into the "horseshoe" and beats OSU after that super weak schedule they've played), and PSU (Franklin) doesn't play well in Minneapolis. BYU -possible upset against Arizona St. Colorado, a dangerous game at Kansas. Oklahoma vs. Alabama in Norman: possible hiccup for Alabama? The unpredictability of the 2024 college football ain't over.
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Riley needs to be in the booth so he can see that
Nov 18, 2024, 11:52 AM
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And adjust. Not sure who we’re relying on in the booth to see that and report it.
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Re: Riley needs to be in the booth so he can see that
Nov 18, 2024, 1:04 PM
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Totally agree. Why is he not in the booth?
I do think he has been helpful with CK2's confidence. On that note tho, I think Streeter was great for confidence too and belongs in more of that role.
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Re: Is Riley all that? Pitt was blitzing a LB in the A gap
Nov 18, 2024, 11:53 AM
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Riley and Mike Bobo are similar. They are pretty good when it comes to lesser opponent talent.
However, they can't find the weakness of the opposing defense and exploit it (Todd Monken was brilliant at that during our back-to-back championships). Riley and Bobo also run up the gut too much and run the same plays over and over expecting a different result...stubbornness and insane.
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