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Problems with baseball as I see it [1] Jack Leggett
Jun 2, 2013, 6:31 PM
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recruits and plays small ball in a big ball world.Remember last time we had any power top to bottom?I dont
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It isn't a "big ball world"...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:35 PM
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and anyone that pays attention would know that. There aren't a dozen players in all of D1 with more than 15 home runs.
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Re: It isn't a "big ball world"...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:39 PM
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True,but it's not necessarily about home runs.
The coots are accustomed to being able to drive the ball in the gaps,and advancing runners,not hitting into double plays ,or being able to advance runners with less than two outs.
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Someone else obsessed with SC.***
Jun 2, 2013, 6:40 PM
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Re:Why shouldn't he be.***
Jun 2, 2013, 6:48 PM
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Why not? I wish we won 2 national championships and
Jun 2, 2013, 6:59 PM
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played for a third in the last 3 years.
Beating your rival 2 times in a row (on two separate occasions) in Omaha when they only needed to win one to advance to the finals is icing on the cake.
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looks like our small ball sucks too
Jun 2, 2013, 6:42 PM
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Batting avg
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1. Virginia............ .313
2. North Carolina...... .306
3. Georgia Tech........ .305
4. Virginia Tech....... .290
5. Florida State....... .286
6. NC State............ .281
7. Maryland............ .279
8. Duke................ .277
9. Clemson............. .277
10.Wake Forest......... .273
11.Miami............... .261
12.Boston College...... .209
Slugging pct
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1. Virginia............ .467
2. Georgia Tech........ .460
3. North Carolina...... .444
4. Virginia Tech....... .438
5. Florida State....... .418
6. NC State............ .391
7. Wake Forest......... .384
8. Maryland............ .382
9. Duke................ .382
10.Clemson............. .360
11.Miami............... .334
12.Boston College...... .279
On base pct
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1. Virginia............ .411
2. North Carolina...... .410
3. Florida State....... .408
4. Georgia Tech........ .384
5. Wake Forest......... .381
6. Maryland............ .376
7. NC State............ .365
8. Duke................ .363
9. Clemson............. .360
10.Virginia Tech....... .360
11.Miami............... .356
12.Boston College...... .301
Runs scored
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1. North Carolina...... 496
2. Virginia............ 465
3. Florida State....... 398
4. Georgia Tech........ 397
5. Virginia Tech....... 382
6. NC State............ 374
7. Wake Forest......... 331
8. Clemson............. 329
9. Maryland............ 306
10.Duke................ 293
11.Miami............... 273
12.Boston College...... 174
Hits
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1. North Carolina...... 661
2. Georgia Tech........ 642
3. Virginia............ 630
4. Virginia Tech....... 605
5. NC State............ 579
6. Clemson............. 568
7. Florida State....... 559
8. Wake Forest......... 516
9. Maryland............ 513
10.Duke................ 508
11.Miami............... 500
12.Boston College...... 359
Runs batted in
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1. North Carolina...... 441
2. Virginia............ 435
3. Georgia Tech........ 369
4. Florida State....... 358
5. Virginia Tech....... 345
6. NC State............ 323
7. Wake Forest......... 292
8. Clemson............. 289
9. Maryland............ 275
10.Duke................ 261
11.Miami............... 242
12.Boston College...... 146
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Re: It isn't a "big ball world"...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:42 PM
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and as a TEAM we had 19 before that regional!! PITIFUL!!!!!!
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Re SC has at least one with 15 and has at least one about
Jun 2, 2013, 6:48 PM
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every year. Do you ever wonder why they continue to beat us. That long ball can be very good to you especially when you have someone on base. I know that you and Jack would rather bunt and run yourselves out of an inning.
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About bunting...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:50 PM
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Today Liberty had runners on first and second with nobody out. Toman chose to have the batter swing away instead of bunting the runners over. The batter struck out and the next guy hit into a double play. If they had sacrificed the runners over instead of the strikeout, then the ground ball to the right side would have scored a run and put another runner at third.
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Re: About bunting...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:59 PM
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Big whoop. We did not execute the sacrifice well in the final 8 games. We certainly have not hit well with runners in scoring position.
Personally, don't give a rat's behind about Liberty's strategy.
Do care that... all season long... against good competition... the Tigers have not clutch hit.
During that nice stretch run at the end of the season, we beat up on no one that made the tourney.
This simply was a snake bit team that generally could not muster a hit in a critical time.
In case you weren't paying attention... that was admitted during the final post game interviews.
Unfortunately, me... a guy that likes Jack a lot... is beginning to see this as a recurring theme... along with bad base running fundamentals and fielding problems.
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Re What was the score of the last two games with Liberty?
Jun 2, 2013, 7:04 PM
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Toman got the best of Jack Leggett both times.
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Re: Re What was the score of the last two games with Liberty?
Jun 2, 2013, 7:06 PM
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I bet their facilities are amazing~!
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Re: Problems with baseball as I see it [1] Jack Leggett
Jun 2, 2013, 6:35 PM
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That team with Khalil Greene and Johnson had a lot of power. Hard to belive we went from that team to this team.
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Actually it didn't...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:38 PM
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three guys had a lot of power, the rest of the lineup, not so much. And the days of 25 home run seasons are over thanks to the bats.
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Re: Actually it didn't...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:41 PM
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In 50+ game season you could give Greene a wooden bat at the college level and he would hit 20+ homers with ease.
but you are right the bat has effected the college game. Maybe S&C programs need to step it up. Major leaguers seem not to have an issue hitting with wooden bats.
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Re:Hey, three guys with a lot of power can do a lot damage.
Jun 2, 2013, 6:50 PM
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I wish we had it.
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Home runs are down all across college baseball...
Jun 2, 2013, 7:09 PM
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wish you realized that.
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Re: I know one thing. They darn sure are down with
Jun 2, 2013, 7:17 PM
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Clemson. How can one player have about as many as our whole team?
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Next season...
Jun 2, 2013, 6:58 PM
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college ball will begin using the more tightly wound minor league ball and the game will be more exciting. The bat change hurt the game but a harder ball will correct the screw up. imo
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I don't know that that change is official yet...
Jun 2, 2013, 7:01 PM
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and Jack Leggett has led the charge to make that change.
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Re: I don't know that that change is official yet...
Jun 2, 2013, 7:06 PM
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I thought Jack wanted to move the plate up!! the dawgs were about the worst team in the SEc and they came to our place and hit 3 shots!!it is not the fences but THE HITTERS.
those LITTLE SLAP hitters just can`1t get it done.. recruit some bigger guys and we will be OK
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Re: I don't know that that change is official yet...
Jun 2, 2013, 7:07 PM
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It hasn't been ruled on as yet but it will happen I think. If we can bring in a top notch pitcher we will be o.k. I happen to know of two here in N.C. who will join Clemson if MLB doesn't interfere so we will be better.
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Re: Problems with baseball as I see it [1] Jack Leggett
Jun 2, 2013, 7:18 PM
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The small ball thing is bad enough. But not being able to pitch, run the bases or play defense amplifies that we have no power.
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Re: Problems with baseball as I see it [1] Jack Leggett
Jun 2, 2013, 7:30 PM
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Why don't you do some research on team ERA in the last 10 years? You will see Pepicelli' numbers are better then Sully and Bunn's. Start with facts when you post.
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Re:Sully is the biggest joke on the team. Obviously Corbin
Jun 2, 2013, 7:48 PM
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and Kevin must be pushing the right button===most of the time anyway.
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Re:Sully is the biggest joke on the team. Obviously Corbin
Jun 2, 2013, 8:03 PM
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My point was our team ERA has been top 25 two of the four years Pepicelli has been here. He is obsessed with the pitching coach when it is obvious our hitting has killed us the last three years.
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Re It us both. If pitching is such a big part of baseball
Jun 2, 2013, 8:25 PM
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then you need to devote more time to it. It is pitiful when you have no more lefthanders than wit do---one of which throws only two to four pitches when brought in .
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It might be time to become a bit obsessed honestly.
Jun 2, 2013, 8:24 PM
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It is difficult to watch your primary rival dominate in state recruiting. I know you are a great fan and I mean no disrespect, but baseball used to be our solid number two sport. I just want us to at least be consistently in the top four of our league, and to me that is not unreasonable.
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Re: It might be time to become a bit obsessed honestly.
Jun 2, 2013, 8:55 PM
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I feel like Jack Leggett has had consistently good teams at Clemson. (and I think that is a good start)
However, if Clemson baseball's standard is best, (which I feel it should be) then I think the athletic department needs to consider some new ideas to improve recruiting.
These could include (but not be limited to) a coaching change as well
as facility improvements.
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Re: Re: It might be time to become a bit obsessed honestly.
Jun 2, 2013, 9:24 PM
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Agreed. Both are in order if we want much better than what we are seeing now. I think we will see one, and possibly both. We have too great an opportunity to do otherwise - just my opinion. 
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