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Red alert!
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:08 PM
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U.N. Weather Agency Issues ‘Red Alert’ over Climate Crisis
The U.N. weather agency warned Tuesday the climate crisis is “the defining challenge” of our age, urging immediate action to curb global warming.
In its State of the Global Climate report, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said the year 2023 “broke every single climate indicator” and was “by far the warmest year on record.”
“Never have we been so close” to the 1.5° C lower limit of the Paris Agreement on climate change, the report laments, since the global average temperature in 2023 was 1.45° C above the pre-industrial average.
The report is meant to “raise awareness of the vital need to scale up the urgency and ambition of climate action,” according to WMO Secretary-General Celeste Saulo.
Curiously, for the global mean temperature time series, the WMO used “a reference period of 1850–1900” because this is the baseline used by the IPCC as “a reference period for pre-industrial conditions” and is “relevant for understanding progress in the context of the Paris Agreement.”
This is curious because according to NASA, serious global temperature tracking only began in 1880, by NASA’s own Goddard Institute for Space Studies, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climatic Data Center, and the U.K. Meteorological Office’s Hadley Centre.
Although sporadic attempts to measure temperature were made, “there are too few data before 1880 for scientists to estimate average temperatures for the entire planet,” NASA asserts.
Moreover, because proxy records from things like tree rings, pollen counts, and ice cores differ fundamentally from direct measurements, “scientists typically do not include them on the same charts as the instrumental record,’” NASA adds.
This would suggest that for the first 30 years (60 percent) of the WMO reference period, scientists have no reliable data from which to estimate average global temperatures.
Undeterred, the report also warns that globally averaged concentrations for carbon dioxide (CO2) have hit 417.9 parts per million (ppm), which would represent 150 percent of pre-industrial (1750) levels.
Yet as Greenpeace founder Dr. Patrick Moore has pointed out, historically speaking it is “glaringly obvious that temperature and CO2 are in an inverse correlation at least as often as they are in any semblance of correlation.”
Moore notes that at the end of the Jurassic period “temperature fell dramatically while CO2 spiked” and during the Eocene Thermal Maximum, “temperature was likely higher than any time in the past 550 million years while CO2 had been on a downward track for 100 million years.”
“This evidence alone is sufficient to warrant deep speculation of any claimed lock-step causal relationship between CO2 and temperature,” he said.
Moreover, as prominent astrophysicist Willie Soon has observed, the temperature of the earth’s atmosphere remained “relatively constant” over a recent fifteen-year period despite a “dramatic increase in CO2 concentrations.”
“This makes it hard to argue that global temperature changes are largely driven by changes in atmospheric CO2 concentrations,” he asserted.
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2024/03/20/u-n-weather-agency-issues-red-alert-over-climate-crisis/
We're toast.
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Re: Red alert!
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Better grab hold of your wallet with both hands when the climate kooks are out in force.
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Might as well go out in a blaze of glory
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:13 PM
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Trade the Subaru on a GMC Yukon ?
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Yea, I don't know dude.
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:16 PM
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Pollution is bad.
How much is acceptable? *shrug* dunno.
Is it the direct cause for any short term temperature changes? *shrug* dunno
Should we probably try to pollute less? yep.
Where's the common-sense point of compromise between us living in the woods like animals and full on Pittsburg Industrial Revolution coal blowing steel mills and creating a mad-max style hellscape? *shrug* dunno. probably closer to the first scenario than the second...
Am I going to do anything about it? probably not.
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The elite making the rules
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:18 PM
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don't care and pollute the most. It's about control not pollution.
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Yea, probably.
Mar 20, 2024, 1:25 PM
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My uneducated take on it is:
Pollution is somewhat contributing to global temperature change, but the folks in power are exaggerating it and creating a bunch of fuss to whip people up into a frenzy and steer civilization in a particular direction.
So a little from column A and a little from column B...
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Re: Yea, probably.
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Mar 20, 2024, 3:04 PM
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My view exactly
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Re: Yea, probably.
Mar 20, 2024, 3:05 PM
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that would be one take, or it could be much simpler in that most of what the scientists are predicting is true and it is those currently in power who profit directly from the use of Fossil Fuels that are slowing any movement on the clean energy front. To suggest those in power are shoving this down our throats is quite ridiculous when it is in their best interest to see any change that could potentially impact their wealth and power.
And of course, from a logical perspective, if climate activists are wrong, it is not the end of the world, if the deniers are wrong, then well, it is kind of a major blunder for humanity and quite possibly some of you should put a little more thought into what would be at stake if you are wrong.
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Re: Red alert!
Mar 20, 2024, 1:17 PM
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144 degrees with the heat index in Brazil a couple days ago. That wouldn't be fun.
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Re: Red alert!
Mar 20, 2024, 1:17 PM
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Re: Red alert!
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:26 PM
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I know when I read stuff like this, the very first thing I assume is that I know climate science far better than organizations of meteorologists and it makes me feel much better about dismissing their concerns straight away.
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Here's my counter to that:
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:31 PM
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I know I don't know climate science better than those folks, BUT
I know enough about the scientific process and how data and information is inferred to know that some of their methods are pretty open to interpretation.
I also know that it's HUGE business... maybe the biggest business... so there's money at stake. Bazillions of moneys.
So given the methods and the money, I think it's okay to be a bit skeptical.
Plus some idiot will end up blowing the earth up with a nuke well before we destroy it with straight-piped diesel trucks and cow farts.
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Up 23% in one year.
Mar 20, 2024, 1:40 PM
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Good times.
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Right?
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Mar 20, 2024, 2:12 PM
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At that rate, it will be one of the top 100 industries on the planet in a decade or so.
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You seem pretty knowledgeable on the subject. Why don't you just tell us?
Mar 20, 2024, 2:15 PM
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Or is this one of those things that you know, but you can't say, like who's actually controlling the White House? Do you want us to dO oUr OwN rEsEaRcH?
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Your "Statista" link wouldn't allow me to access their methodology.
Mar 20, 2024, 2:21 PM
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Difficult to debate when you can't observe the parameters.
However, I HIGHLY DOUBT they included all the industries that are being promoted or bolstered by climate-abatement claims.
Link the methodology and I'll give it a go, though. I won't be paying for it.
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You don't have to pay for it, you just have to register.
Mar 20, 2024, 2:24 PM
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This is your baby, so give it a whirl.
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Skip the nukes... When everything goes electric, EMPs will be The Thing.***
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Mar 20, 2024, 1:37 PM
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Well there goes another 100,000
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Mar 20, 2024, 2:43 PM
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liberal US women in their 20s off to the crazy farm
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Re: Red alert!
Mar 20, 2024, 4:13 PM
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something is definitely shrinking the womenz softball uniforms
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