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Really? Moving to the BIG 12?
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Really? Moving to the BIG 12?


May 10, 2012, 10:31 PM
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I mean just look at the map.

West Virginia would be closest team to us at 8 hour car drive away...

The rest of them range from 15 to 20 hour drive...

I don't see the logic at all.

Please enlighten me...

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I totally agree with you. What about minor sports travel?***


May 10, 2012, 10:35 PM



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Minor sports are . . . well . . . minor.


May 10, 2012, 10:40 PM

;)

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
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Yep, but you still have them. Travel will be sort of costly***


May 10, 2012, 10:53 PM



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I know - thus the


May 10, 2012, 10:59 PM

;)

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Its going to be costly for Syracuse minor sports to go to


May 10, 2012, 11:25 PM [ in reply to Yep, but you still have them. Travel will be sort of costly*** ]

Miami but they did it for years in the Big East without todays TV money. This distance argument is a non issue.

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It's a major issue with rising fuel costs- traveling once a


May 11, 2012, 8:23 AM

year in half your olympic sports to Syracuse and traveling 5 times by van within a 4-5 hour radius vs traveling virtually every away game by plane or 15 hour bus trips is a huge difference

not to mention-- look at what has happened to the BE.

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Re: Really?Travelling ?


May 10, 2012, 10:58 PM

When the travel excuse is thrown in, how many fans actually attend that many regular season away games. Talk about travel, We can't even sell out every home game.

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Re: Really?Travelling ?


May 10, 2012, 11:10 PM

if we can't join the sec the big 12 is the only way to go if we stay in the acc in a couple of yrs we will all be bit##** how we are left out of the mix in football. because of our allready weak conf. and there is no way in hell USuCk is going to let us in the sec. so i say until there is another option let's go big 12. GO TIGERS!

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These dire predictions are getting to be a bit much. ******


May 10, 2012, 11:18 PM



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I never bought into that. USuC and UF are only two of


May 10, 2012, 11:40 PM [ in reply to Re: Really?Travelling ? ]

fourteen votes in the SEC now. I'd bet they would do whatever the SEC commish tells them to do if it ever came to that.

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I go to every game at Ga Tech, and most every game at UNC,


May 10, 2012, 11:25 PM [ in reply to Re: Really?Travelling ? ]

State, Duke and Wake. I have been to FSU, Va Tech and UVA three times, Maryland twice, Miami and BC once. Traveling to away games is a blast. ACC road games are for the most part fun trips - Boston, Charlottesville and Chapel Hill are probably my favorites. Wake is probably the worst trip but such an easy one for me.

If we go the Big 12, there is only one game that I see as a fun trip - UT. Away games in Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa are non-starters for me. I spend a week in Kansas one night - miserable.

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Waco, Lubbock, Ames, Manhattan, and Stillwater are 5 of the


May 10, 2012, 11:37 PM

Worst trips in college football. Lawrence and Norman ain't all that either but compared to those others, they are almost interesting. Austin and Fort Worth are easily the best trips - the others make Morgantown an oasis of refined culture.

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btw.. its not 8 hours to wvu***


May 10, 2012, 11:21 PM



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That map doesn't show a newly formed eastern division for


May 10, 2012, 11:22 PM

them. With Clemson,FSU,WVU,Louisville,GT possibly Maryland then it makes more sense. Also Syracuse,Pitt,BC look a little far on the ACC map to make sense.

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Miles to each campus, in case you're interested:


May 10, 2012, 11:24 PM

CONF School Town Miles from Clemson
ACC Georgia Tech Atlanta, Georgia 124
ACC Wake Forest Winston-Salem, NC 208
ACC UNC Chapel Hill, NC 269
ACC Duke Durham, NC 272
ACC NCSU Raleigh, NC 281
ACC Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 298
ACC FSU Tallahassee, Florida 353
ACC Virginia Charlottesville, VA 400

Big 12 West Virginia Morgantown, WV 501
ACC Maryland College Park, MD 524
ACC Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 572
ACC Miami Miami, Florida 706
ACC Syracuse Syracuse, NY 850

Big 12 Kansas Lawrence, Kansas 908
Big 12 TCU Fort Worth, Texas 941
Big 12 Baylor Waco, Texas 944
Big 12 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Oklahoma 978
ACC Boston College Boston, MA 983
Big 12 Oklahoma Norman, Oklahoma 985
Big 12 Kansas State Manhattan, Kansas 988
Big 12 Iowa State Ames, Iowa 1048
Big 12 Texas Austin, Texas 1077
Big 12 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas 1252

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Distance from Miami to Syracuse in the new ACC trumps all


May 10, 2012, 11:29 PM

of them.

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Well, that's false, but that's not our problem regardless.


May 10, 2012, 11:39 PM

I'll let Syracuse and Miami worry about that. Miami doesn't have a lot of options being nestled so far South in Florida, and Syracuse could have said "no" to the invitation. But I'm not worried about their fans, I'm worried about ours.

Anyway, Miami to Boston is farther than Miami to Syracuse (by car, per Google Maps). Lubbock to Morgantown if farther than Miami to Syracuse.

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Well, Syracuse and BC fans don't seem to be whining like


May 10, 2012, 11:49 PM

our fans about the distance.

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Don't care what Syracuse and BC fans do. ******


May 10, 2012, 11:56 PM



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Re: Miles to each campus, in case you're interested:


May 10, 2012, 11:31 PM [ in reply to Miles to each campus, in case you're interested: ]

bet me to it

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This is why the Wright brothers invented that machine.


May 10, 2012, 11:29 PM

;) j/k

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Re: Really? Moving to the BIG 12?


May 10, 2012, 11:31 PM

According to yahoo maps:

Clemson to Norman - 976.25 miles 15 hrs 13 min
Clemson to Manhattan, KS - 1029.9 miles 15 hrs 50 min
Clemson to Syracuse - 850 Miles 13 hrs 24 min
Clemson to Boston - 983 miles 15 hrs 50 min

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Yes, Big 12 Move Would Be Dumb


May 10, 2012, 11:47 PM

Better solution would be to make ACC Football better! I am sure they are working on that.

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Luckily Southwest has cheap flights and we will still have


May 10, 2012, 11:49 PM

7 homegames. It isnt like we have a ton of fans driving to Boston College every other year or Miami every four years.

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Re: Really? Moving to the BIG 12?


May 10, 2012, 11:54 PM

We won't leave acc unless we get an invite from secespn. In wch case gpa will increase dramatically for said espn owned conference. Secespn will not invite us cause clemson will be become the new abalama. Go tigers and fire swafford

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Re: Really? Moving to the BIG 12?


May 11, 2012, 12:00 AM

rrriiiiigggghhttttttt...

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Re: Really? Moving to the BIG 12?


May 11, 2012, 7:38 AM

Don't let the facts get in the way of irrational thought.
Good job.

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