Re: Yes chopchat is an unbiased source for info on Jameis

was sure he was a rapist before but then I really looked into it and really looked at that girl and started to realize it was just another media created ##### storm. The girl lied atleast 3 times possibly more but that's all ive seen, she was not drunk or under the influence of any drugs when tested at the hospital, her friends screwed her by telling different stories than her and supposedly one actually let the cat out of the bag saying that her boyfriend was at the bar and they got into a fight (confirmed) and she left with jameis winston to get at her boyfriend and after the deed was done she realized jameis winston didn't think of her as anything more than a one night stand and she just ruined everything with her boyfriend so she resorted to this as a way out. Then her aunt came along and it went from justice for erica kinsman to getting her aunts name out there creating the biggest story possible. The girl wants this to be over but her lawyer aunt has taken it way past the point of no return.

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Re: Jameis innocent?

Dec 24, 2014, 12:39 PM

Disagree with a bunch of this.

The most telling thing, to me, is that the Tally PD did such an awesomely bad job of conducting an investigation that the waters are thoroughly muddled...but there's still a ton of smoke there.

Ho-shaming after the fact is one of the most common - and appalling - features of rape cases; there's always a legion of voices on hand claiming "she deserved it".

She reported it the very night the incident allegedly happened. She had a rape kit done. She did not know the name of the man who allegedly raped her, which means there's no financial motive.

That is a very brave and humiliating step, and one that women seldom - I'm tempted to say never - fake unless they're convinced something happened (unless, again, there's a financial motive...which there just wasn't. It wasn't until months later she ID'd Jameis Winston as the suspect - and his DNA indeed matched.)

To me that is strongly indicative that Jameis Winston was something less than a gentleman that night. Whatever happened in that dorm room, she came out instantly claiming rape - without ever knowing who he was (he was just an unknown redshirting freshman at the time, and she didn't know his name anyway). Which means, again and again and again...there was no financial motive.

Something went very bad in that room. Both parties seem to agree that this was triggered when Winston's roommate Chris Casher came into the bedroom and started filming them. She apparently did not like this. Winston's corner says she got over it. She says she didn't.

Women just do not go down to the cops and file rape charges against a stranger and submit to a rape kit unless something happened. They just don't. The vast majority of women who actually are raped never file charges precisely because doing so is so freaking humiliating and scary.

You think the next woman who's raped by an FSU football player will go anywhere near the Tallahassee cops? I certainly don't. RB Karlos Williams became an object of interest when his girlfriend moved out of his apartment after she posted pictures of herself covered head-to-toe in bruises...but when Tally's finest went to "investigate", she not only wouldn't press charges, she wouldn't even talk to them. Instead she dropped out of school...and moved out of town.

That's the climate this has created down there. And that's maybe the most criminal thing of all.

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