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Walk-On [79]
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New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 2:56 PM
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to South Carolina, per Austin Hannon of Clemson's 247 Sport site.
Ugh. How many 4 Star WRs can they realistically take in one class? I don't get why that many would all sign to play in the same class; clearly, some of them are going to be relegated to backup roles. Feel like he has a better shot for playing time signing with Clemson.
Not over yet, but he's spent a LOT of time in Columbia visiting them.
Austin's comments are below:
The Gamecocks have all of the momentum in the state's recruiting right now, especially in the surrounding areas of Williams-Brice Stadium, where Murph is located. While it's simply been convenient, he's been spending the majority of his time around the home team. Face it — that is significant.
It's rather unfortunate that Murph's OV lands on the weekend of an FCS game, but the staff will still do a good job of showing him a good time. This is not over yet. When you have the rivalry game still to be played, nothing can be set in stone. It feels like a dominant effort from one side in this year's game will have a whole lot of impact on recruiting in the state for at least the next 365 days.
Because that's how rivalries go, right?
Murph announced a commitment date of Jan. 3 — right now, I think it's the home team. But the Tigers will still have a final shot, both this weekend and next, on the field.
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:36 PM
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SEC Money
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Orange Elite [5321]
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:39 PM
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Our unwillingness to pay up front is going to lead to a time we had in the past when Spurrier at USC dominated us. I sure don’t want to go back to those days.
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Paw Warrior [4968]
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If you aint gonna use the portal.......
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:57 PM
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You better recruit HS at an elite level......IF your goal is to compete for NC and stay up with your peers
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Tiger Titan [49981]
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We need to keep doing things by the rules
Nov 20, 2024, 10:29 PM
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In the long run God will honor or honesty and truthfulness despite how it looks, remember when everyone thought Texas a&m was going buy a quick championship.
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Tiger Titan [46627]
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There is nothing illegal about utilizing the transfer portal and NIL.
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Nov 20, 2024, 10:47 PM
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This notion that Dabo is doing everything ethically while everyone else is cheating has to stop.
Dabo has decided not to use NIL in certain ways, despite them being legal. He has also decided not to use the transfer portal, despite it being legal. That’s on him.
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Paw Master [17324]
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sad fact beamer has them on an upswig
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:40 PM
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dabo has clemson on a downswing. that and also nil which they use in recruiting we do not
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Yeah Right
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Nov 20, 2024, 7:01 PM
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I give Beamer credit for the current roster but guese what. It will be a rebuild year next year as they fight for 6 wins. Mark my words. This year is a mirage.
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Walk-On [79]
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Re: Yeah Right
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Nov 20, 2024, 8:00 PM
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I respectfully disagree. They are definitely losing a few stars (Emanwwori, Simon, several starting DTs, etc). They will need to hit on some experienced talent in the portal.
On Offense:
Their WR class coming in is awesome and potentially getting better with Murph's commitment and some of their returning talent should be much improved under Mike Furrey's Coaching. Protected starters are Harbor, Jacobs, Bennett, and one of the incoming 4 star recruits.
RB: They should have a three-headed monster with Addaway (Starting), Howell, and Matthew Fuller
TE: Michael Smith should be the go-to Tight End for them in the passing game for the next 2-3 seasons with Simon graduation. Kid has already flashed some as a freshman.
OL: Obviously SCAR has stacked some talent here, and they project to be improved here as well with substantially more size on the interior OL.
QB: Sellers. Enough Said. I honestly think this guy could end up being a generational talent.
Defense:
DT: Need Portal Help.
DE: Dylan Stewart and maybe Dez Umeozolo (Sp?)
LB: Losing quite a bit in Debo and Knight. Imagine Gregory and a portal transfer here.
DB: The one place SCAR never worries because they have Terrain Gray coaching the DBs. I think he's the best DB coach in the country year in and year out. They ought to be okay there.
Point being I think SCAR is going to be just fine next year. They will have a brutal schedule again, but Sellers will have another year's experience and that can be the difference in a few of those tough games for them.
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Re: Yeah Right
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Nov 20, 2024, 9:02 PM
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Theoretically, they could have a good team next year. However, since Shane Beamer has been there, they have lost large numbers of players to the transfer portal every year (13 in 2021, 21 in 2022, 17 in 2023, and 28 in 2024). Given that roster turnover seems consistent during Shane's tenure, I would expect a similar amount of turnover this offseason as well. All of which makes it hard to predict their future success without knowing who will actually be on their roster next year.
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Dynasty Maker [3522]
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Re: Yeah Right
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Nov 20, 2024, 9:17 PM
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There’s no doubt you’re a CardCarryingCoot. The only thing you didn’t confess was your belief that they could win the Super Bowl next year.
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Re: Yeah Right
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Nov 20, 2024, 10:46 PM
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You are assuming all those guys stay. I bet at least 12 enter the portal for better offers.
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Nov 20, 2024, 8:10 PM
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You must be new here, punk. Take the orange glasses off and be real for a minute.
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Freshman [6]
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Re: Yeah Right
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Nov 20, 2024, 9:55 PM
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I give Beamer credit for the current roster but guese what. It will be a rebuild year next year as they fight for 6 wins. Mark my words. This year is a mirage.
That was the expectation this year and Beamer landed several studs in the portal.
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:49 PM
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Come on man. Put in the banner CB to coots. I was hoping we could turn him. He's brining family this weekend. There is always a chance.
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CU Medallion [20812]
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You do realize that we have no senior WR don't you?
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:51 PM
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Now, someone down the depth chart could transfer, but with Williams, Wesco, Moore, Stellato, Turner, Brown and the likes coming back, not much PT for a freshman
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CU Medallion [20812]
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Forgot Randall
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:52 PM
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then you have Kelly and Johnson down the depth chart
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Re: You do realize that we have no senior WR don't you?
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Nov 20, 2024, 3:57 PM
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In this environment, more likely that soemone up the depth chart leaves for $$money, than someone down the depth chart leaves.
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Tiger Spirit [9791]
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Re: You do realize that we have no senior WR don't you?
Nov 20, 2024, 7:37 PM
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Adam Randall will be a Sr n3xt year. No RS. No extra COVID year.
Noble Johnson is RS FR and doesn’t see much action.
Not suggesting that either / both will transfer, but …
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CU Medallion [20812]
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I'd think Johnson is the most likely as he's buried
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Nov 20, 2024, 7:49 PM
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on the depth chart. If guys like Wesco and Moore were swayed by money they never would have signed with us, and they'll get NIL from us next year along with the "salary," or whatever they're calling it. Randall is a Clemson lifer I believe
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Game Changer [1663]
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Re: You do realize that we have no senior WR don't you?
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All of these guys (6-8 WR'S) will not come back. Not enough footballs to go around. My guess is Stella's, Wesco or Moore, and possibly 1 other will be leaving. Not being a downer, but we need to prepare for that to happen.
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Re: You do realize that we have no senior WR don't you?
Nov 20, 2024, 7:44 PM
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Some may be leaving because they are not being targeted enough, but that doesn’t apply to either Moore or Wesco. Or Williams.
I really like Stellato, but he’ll be competing next year against proven stud Tyler Brown and possible stud Tink Kelly. Plus a potential slot WR signee in the 2025 class. Isn’t Stellato a SR next year?
Adam Randall has a lo of competition for the WR position that he plays. A.Randall is a SR next year.
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If Moore or Wesco were chasing dollars they could've done it last year
Nov 20, 2024, 7:53 PM
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Moore specifically addressed teams throwing money at him. They'll get NIL money from us, along with whatever we'll pay each player beginning July 1.
NIL has been arounda few years now. What player have we had transfer for money?
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Game Changer [1601]
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Makuba and Beaux Collins last year***
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Nov 20, 2024, 9:05 PM
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Legend [7093]
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Re: You do realize that we have no senior WR don't you?
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Nov 20, 2024, 6:03 PM
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I like a lot of our guys but theres a reason Dabo wanted to bring in at least 2 guys.
I see Johnson and 1 other hitting the portal.
I would argue Wesco and Bryant’s upside is more than anyone one our roster except maybe Williams.
We need more guys on their level IMO.
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CU Medallion [20812]
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I'm not concerned about Moore or Wesco
Nov 20, 2024, 7:56 PM
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If they were chasing dollars they could've done that last year. Both will get NIL money from us, as well as the money beginning July 1.
Plus we'll return one of the top QB's in the country
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I'm not concerned about Moore or Wesco
Nov 20, 2024, 8:36 PM
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If they were chasing dollars they could've done that last year. Both will get NIL money from us, as well as the money beginning July 1.
Plus we'll return one of the top QB's in the country
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Ring of Honor [21321]
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He was always going to the coots i don’t know why we are wasting our time on him. All I gotta say is Dabo needs to take a long hard look at recruiting because the coots are catching up fast
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
Nov 20, 2024, 7:47 PM
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It’s never wasting time if the target is a good player with good grades and no blatant character flaws … and he gives our coaching staff some of his priority time to recruit him.
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Game Changer [1645]
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 4:01 PM
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The lamecocks will not keep all the WRs they are recruiting. 2 or 3 of them will be told to get lost before NSD.
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For whatever reason some recruits like to smell chicken*&^%
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Nov 20, 2024, 4:02 PM
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so lick it up if you prefer to chase ##### all over that garbage dump, have fun blocking and putting up pedestrian numbers.
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 5:42 PM
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He visit us this weekend, one last shot to turn him.
Tigers are a long shot.
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 6:14 PM
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Lol go away coot
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Walk-On [79]
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
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Nov 20, 2024, 8:04 PM
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I'm a Clemson Grad (2007). Two older brothers also grads, as was my father and mother, and my grandfather on my dad's side. Watch your mouth. And get something more original than "coot." Where does that even come from? Can't we be more original? Yikes.
Wife is a Gamecock (played Tennis there), but what can you do? Nobody's perfect lol.
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Game Day Hero [4197]
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Him reclassing to '25 hurt b/c he was primary target for '26
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Nov 20, 2024, 6:50 PM
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Especially given we have no senior WRs this year. W/ SC having such a senior-laden team, gonna be better opportunity to see field early w/ them than if he comes to Tigertown.
Hoping for some magic + we still got til the HS A-A games to work him (he's not announcing commitment til then) but I'm not gonna hold breath
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Tiger Spirit [9791]
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As for an alleged recruiting handicap because OV is game vs Citadel - - -
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Nov 20, 2024, 7:57 PM
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- - - remember that Christian Wilkins’ OV was for game vs Citadel.
There might be better opportunity for Clemson coaches to pay attention to Murph because it’s the Citadel game instead of a tough opponent. If lots of players get in the game, then the game will be fun and celebratory.
Murph can determine from a distance whether Clemson is well coached when his full attention is fixed to our game vs S.Carolina on Nov. 30.
One last remembrance: Mike Williams was a lock for S.Carolina until the final moment, when he impulsively changed and went to Clemson. His reasoning was that Clemson had better QB at that time (D.Watson) than S.Carolina. If CK2 has a big game vs S.Carolina and we win, then we have a real chance for this kid.
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Re: As for an alleged recruiting handicap because OV is game vs Citadel - - -
Nov 20, 2024, 8:08 PM
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Great point on Mike! I agree a lot rides on the big game in 10 days. Though, Sellers is already being nationally heralded as a Freshman, so not sure the QB debate will be in our favor. Guy only figures to improve, but it wouldn't hurt our chances if we wreck him next weekend.
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
Nov 20, 2024, 8:07 PM
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Lmfao who cares about the coots?
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Walk-On [79]
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
Nov 20, 2024, 8:09 PM
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Literally our entire fanbase lol. We can trash talk them all we want, but you know as well as I do, that a loss to them sours our season no matter what else we accomplish. Beating them is simply a MUST.
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
Nov 20, 2024, 9:13 PM
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Iceman, how do you have time to drill down on cxck roster and recruits like that? Impressive
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Walk-On [79]
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Re: New Crystal Ball for WR Donovan Murph...
Nov 20, 2024, 9:27 PM
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Live in a house divided, buddy. My wife was a letter winner athlete at SCAR, so like it or not, I see a LOT of Gamecock sports. Particularly Football and Women's Hoops. Pray for me.
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Dynasty Maker [3200]
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We should be concerned.
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They are much better this year.
When healthy, Sellers is very good.
He knows how to win close games late.
We have big depth issues at OK.
Their DL is very good.
If our OL can't protect Cade better how good our WR's are may not matter.
We'll find out on Nov. 30.
I hope we find a way to win.
I doubt that bubble screens and A gap runs on 2nd and long do that.
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