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Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:03 PM
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Curious to get y’all’s take on this. Don’t understand why there’s not more natty buzz around this team.
Full transparency, I don’t have a dog in the fight. However, year 3 QB, top 3 weapons back, you’d expect turned up aggression on defense with Allen… and worse odds than bama to win the natty? Don’t get it.
Full thoughts for those interested: https://youtu.be/qBd6SpcmiXs?si=WfJ5p0b6yMcrH5GZ
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:19 PM
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Easy. We aren't in the esecpn conference nor the B1G.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:46 PM
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Easy. We aren't in the esecpn conference nor the B1G.
But that brand still moves the needle. Wonder if it’s folks scared to trust Dabo in new CFB. I’ve had my reservations and want to see it before I buy the stock in bulk past 2025 but they should be so good this year 😂
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Associate AD [1034]
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:48 PM
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Let’s go, JD. get after it!
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Hall of Famer [8886]
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 23, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Someone posted that Paul Finebaum had us a national championship contenders. The only thing bigger than his buzz are his ears.
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Varsity [109]
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:51 PM
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Captain Obvious is correct! Ding, ding ding!
While Clemson SHOULD be one of about 4-6 teams next year with realistic aspirations of a National Championship, the unfortunate reality is that both ESPN and FOX have a clearly biased agenda in hyping their respective conferences’ teams.
Clemson is certainly worthy of consideration, yet lacks meeting the criteria of BIG or SEC conference affiliation.
Regardless, the outlook is positive and fans should be excited imo.
Go Tigers!
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Varsity [145]
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 11:02 PM
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Captain Obvious is correct! Ding, ding ding!
While Clemson SHOULD be one of about 4-6 teams next year with realistic aspirations of a National Championship, the unfortunate reality is that both ESPN and FOX have a clearly biased agenda in hyping their respective conferences’ teams.
Clemson is certainly worthy of consideration, yet lacks meeting the criteria of BIG or SEC conference affiliation.
Regardless, the outlook is positive and fans should be excited imo.
Go Tigers!
I have been told I have SEC bias ( Even though I'm from southern California another conversation for another topic) and if it's about branding where is the Clemson love? That Tiger paw still holds some weight!
Follow up question: assuming Clemson bounces to either the SEC or the Big Ten sooner rather than later... where do y'all want to end up at?
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Hall of Famer [8538]
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As much as I hate the SEC media bias I would rather be in SEC over B1G
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Feb 22, 2025, 11:06 PM
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Much more of a cultural fit, better weather, more natural rivalries, better weather, better geographically, better competition from top to bottom
Oh yeah, and better weather!!
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Feb 23, 2025, 12:44 AM
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Academically, Clemson is a better fit in the BIG.
Geographically and culturally, Clemson is a better fit in the SEC.
I lean towards SEC, but at this point, I suspect most universities are just wanting to be a member of either conference simply due the disparity in $$$.
Will be interesting to see how it ultimately plays out. The conference alignments and shifts these last 10-15 years have been absolutely laughable and crazy. 🤣
Go Tigers
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Game Changer [1731]
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Good summation***
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Feb 23, 2025, 3:49 PM
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Tiger Titan [50184]
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Big 10 for sure.
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Feb 23, 2025, 12:48 AM
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Academics are better, and I also think it is a better fit for many of our sports teams.
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CU Guru [1573]
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Feb 23, 2025, 12:59 AM
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I prefer staying right where Clemson is at: in the ACC. The ACC is just fine, but the powers that be (the big money and national talking heads) may have already sealed the ACC’s fate. I’d rather Clemson become independent, if the ACC folds, than join either one of those “conferences.” The SEC didn’t invent football and basketball, and the Big 28, or whatever they call themselves these days, didn’t either. If all this restructuring brings about the ultimate ruination of college sports, I think the one thing that will give me the most pleasure is seeing the destruction of those two leagues when it happens. Their avarice will be their undoing. Poetic justice when that happens.
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Feb 23, 2025, 12:11 PM
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Big 10 I feel like it would give us something no other team in the country has and recruiting would skyrocket
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CU Guru [1575]
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Feb 23, 2025, 4:02 PM
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Holds some weight? Just some?
Arrogant prick. Clemson is a blue blood whether you like it or not.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 24, 2025, 8:33 AM
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Easy. We aren't in the esecpn conference nor the B1G.
I'm sorry, but that's a lazy take. I get the whole SEC-BIG, and after being on this site for years..I GET IT, but right now, there's more teams that are moving the needle. There was a time we didn't care about all this stuff believe it or not or it wasn't repeated over and over on this site like it is now. Back then, we just knew we were going to win.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:51 PM
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3 letters…ACC
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National Champion [7659]
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The Citadel ran for 300+ yards on this defense
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:54 PM
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SCars QB ran for a come back win on this defense
Georgia hung 20+ in the second half with zero effort on this defense
Texas ran all over this defense
we left the stadium in the 3rd because this defense let Louisville run all over them
the entire returning defense except for Sammy Brown and TJ Parker
is why i don't am waiting until post Labor Day to feel good about the team
Win The Opener
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Top TigerNet [32609]
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Left the stadium in the 3rd quarter? smh
Feb 23, 2025, 12:45 AM
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So are you a fair weather or a bandwagon fan? Diehard fans want to know.
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National Champion [7659]
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i stayed the entire game
Feb 23, 2025, 11:48 AM
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and im always one of the first 50 into the stadium for every home game
if you think i'm fair weather
i don't know how to stress there is nothing fairwethaer a out growing up in Clemson and still going to games like this (as described above) throughout my adulthood
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National Champion [7659]
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we as in the over 50% collection of Clemson fans
Feb 23, 2025, 11:51 AM
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the stadium was very very very empty in the fourth
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National Champion [7659]
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i'm hoping !***
Feb 23, 2025, 11:48 AM
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:56 PM
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The last 3-4 years we’ve lost some of the credibility we had gained in the Cfb world. We’ve lost to some teams we shouldn’t have and have been outclassed by the elite teams we’ve played. The product on the field just hasn’t looked like what it did before.
I do think we see a much better team this year. I don’t know if we’re in the natty convo, but I do think we can make some noise in the playoffs
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National Champion [7659]
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This is Clemson Football
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Feb 22, 2025, 10:57 PM
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the same program that went against the Best Alabamas
Deshaun Watson lit Alabama up offensively
Trevor went like 80 points on Alabama Notre Dame and Brent Venables only let 20 points scored
since Covid . Clemson is a dud
they have to be Proven again before we ever think Natty
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Re: This is Clemson Football
Feb 22, 2025, 11:09 PM
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They
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Re: This is Clemson Football
Feb 23, 2025, 12:32 PM
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We are not a dud and have never been a dud. I've been going to games longer than you probably, since my first was in 1956, and we were not dud's then and are not now. Now there are times we have not won as many games as I would have liked, but not because we are duds. I think we may have identified the dud.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 22, 2025, 11:07 PM
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Defense
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Feb 22, 2025, 11:13 PM
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At some point we have to actually beat a team better than SMU. In the last 4 years our defense has deteriorated while we have failed to beat any elite teams. Next year we SHOULD be a contender, but until we beat an opponent like an LSU we'll have to wait and see. Are the odds biased...sure, but lets take our Clemson colored glasses off as well. We have to prove we are the same program that beat the tar outta Bama for our last title, given the last 4 years that is not the perception around the program.
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Varsity [145]
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 22, 2025, 11:52 PM
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Will have a massive opportunity to do so week 1
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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^^^ this ^^^
Saying it on this forum and being female, trust me, I know. But yes, if we take care of business with lsu in convincing fashion, and win the first couple of acc matchups, we'll hear a lot about our chances. But I still think it's going to take a shutdown performance on the defensive side moreso than besting a team 55-31. If people see a 180 top 10ish D in our first 4 games, you can bet the natty hype will ramp up. No longer can "just trust Dabo " works.
BTW jqhall, I'm not a believer in the whole bias argument. Facts are facts. The acc is weak.
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Well, we havent finished in the top 10 in the last four years.
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Feb 23, 2025, 12:46 AM
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Making the jump from mid teens to one of the top few teams in the country is a big leap.
We also haven’t shown an ability to beat the best teams on our schedule. We were 1-3 against ranked teams last year. We are 0-5 in our last five games against top 5 teams.
I think it’s reasonable to expect us to be better next year, but considering us a legitimate national championship contender requires some really orange tinted glasses.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 23, 2025, 1:01 AM
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Please don’t turn into another “Finebaum”
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 6:54 AM
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I actually think that is a good thing. In the past when Clemson has gone under the radar, they've done their best work. Got a feeling this team will be in the playoffs again but this time will be much stronger. Unfortunately , I worry that getting a bye week may not be a good thing so I hope the team gets in at a low seed. All the teams that had bye weeks last year lost.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 7:10 AM
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Don’t take the cheese. Just another media person farming for content which never ends well. Marc Ryan did the same thing a couple years ago. Started out acting like our friend then started trolling us to drive up his radio ratings.
Hype is media driven narrative use to drive engagement which enriches them or promote a favored group (SEC as an example). Smart fans don’t participate as it does not benefit them or their team.
If you listened to the hype 🤮 by ESPN in 2018, we had zero chance of beating the greatest ever Bama team.
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Feb 23, 2025, 10:32 AM
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That’s easy….we did not beat one team w a pulse last year. We got embarrassed by Uga on national tv and we have lost to the coots the last 2 out of 3 games. What’s to hype
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CU Medallion [20468]
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We've been forecasted by most as a solid Top 10 with a legit shot
Feb 23, 2025, 10:33 AM
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at a CFP run for 2025.
Right now it's dead as a doornail season for football and there isn't any real hype for any team out there, not with hoops in the homestretch and baseball kicking off.
Check back on this after the NCAAT wraps and sports media needs new topics to cover.
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All this, 'Can Dabo adapt,' is pure horse dung.
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Feb 23, 2025, 10:57 AM
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Dabo didn't jump on the portal/NIL bandwagon because he refuses to violate tampering rules. After a few years into this flawed system of recruiting coaches and players are seeing the issues which Dabo avoided.
Coaches figure out that when they go deep into the portal and throw a ton of money at the players to entice them it's not long until those who auction themselves off to the highest bidder are ready to open the bid for the following year. Players are throwing away one school for the next biggest thing year after year. Think DJ stinkco.
Players are learning that the coaches who bought them for a year are going to continue to seek players better than them at that position. They can be replaced as easily as they were bought.
These programs got a few legs up on Dabo for a few years but now folks are realizing that stability has a dollar value.
It's as if the football teams and players were made in China for both dispose of one another for the next biggest thing.
I don't buy into this 'can Dabo adapt,' because he's too intelligent to throw his future, or that of our program to a system which can destroy him, it or the young men who trust him. Even and old man like me who needs glasses to read can see this for what it is.
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CU Medallion [20468]
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Dabo was a pioneer on the NIL front, embracing the opportunity for kids
Feb 23, 2025, 11:36 AM
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to earn income from marketing and branding and immediately helping establish an in-house 'media lab' within the program to help his players tap into this field. This visionary effort quickly expanded into a program for all of our athletes department-wide, including basketball. That he didn't cheat the intention as other programs did and just go straight 'pay to play' isn't really a case of not adapting - it's simply staying true to your mission and standing behind the beliefs that build champions.
The House settlement is bringing the sport around to align better with the intended purpose of NIL, where Dabo has a pretty sizeable head start. Our Clemson Ventures program is pretty unique in the greater landscape to boot. Versus subbing out digital and NIL media rights to large clearing houses as many other competing programs have done, we're firming up doing things the Clemson way for what lies ahead.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 11:00 AM
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We are not the SEC or Big 10. Disney/ESPN know what they are doing
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 23, 2025, 11:52 AM
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What is “natty buzz” ??
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 24, 2025, 8:46 AM
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Isn’t he the guy from the Last of the Mohicans?
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 12:11 PM
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Like I've said repeatedly , I hope the opener against LSU doesn't evolve as a must win game but that's exactly what is happening.
I have confidence we could pull it out but given this teams recent performances in openers it does create pause. Are they already a confident team with swag ? Because that's what it takes against these SEC heavies. Bunch of thugs.you gotta punch in the mouth and make no apologies. It will be physical early and likey will remain so until the last tick of the clock.
The truth is it isn't a must win game.
Translation: we could lose this game and still run the table on what's left.
I just wanna know if we are behind by a couple of points with less than 2 minutes left in the game at the LSU 35 or so , and its 4th and 16 what play does Riley call ?
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It's The Same Ol' Baghdad Bob Disney Wokester ESPIN Mentality Propping Up Their
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Horrific losses resultant from an idiotic partnership w/the NBA and WNBA where they are bleeding $$. In efforts to staunch that bleeding they shamelessly prop up and shill their interest-conflicted reasonably sound investments in the SEC and BIG to fund their macro ineptitude.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 2:28 PM
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So endless numbers of fans can come aboard TN and whine incessantly.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 3:58 PM
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Personally I don’t like too much preseason hype saying we will win a Natty. Hard for 18-23 year olds not to believe the hype. Tend to get overconfident.
There is a lot to like about this team and it may be a top 5 team, but we have some question marks like RB, punter and overall depth that keep my optimism in check.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 4:06 PM
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There’s still the fact that Clemson hasn’t utilized the transfer portal as much.
So people don’t believe our roster has enough elite talent to truly compete.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 4:39 PM
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Most of the talking heads base their preseason hype on how a team played the previous season. It is a little nonsensical because each team is different from year to year but trends do emerge and that makes sense. We need to earn it again. We haven’t been NC contenders for a few years. If we take care of business we will get there.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 23, 2025, 4:48 PM
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Because it doesn’t fit the false narrative that the SEC and B1G are the only conferences capable of winning football games, basketball games, and baseball games. If they had their way they’d add 6 SEC and 6 B1G teams. ESecPN put all their eggs in the SEC basket in the 80’s and 90’s because that was the only conference desperate enough to give he small regional sports show from Connecticut a chance. They are rewarding them for helping build the network to a monopoly. ESecPN also bought out FOX which worships at the B1G altar. Yes, they “sold” FOX but found some B1G love in the form of $.
They ran this false narrative last year about SEC basketball being dominant and the ACC was dead. Kinda funny the ACC won many more games and had teams run deeper on average than the SEC. If they tell their lie long enough people start to believe it. They are far left leaning and learned this playbook from those far left politicians.
Everyone seems to forget the ACC has won 75+% of ncaa basketball championships since 1970. Have had the most final fours, most elite eights, and highest win % in the tournament. They also forget the ACC is second in playoff appearances, wins, and national championships in football.
I’m a stats guy because I have a couple psychology degrees. (Cringes remembering those research/stats courses). I got into psychology to specialize in addiction medicine/therapy. I also recognize the psy-op espn has been running on us for years.
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 5:21 PM
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Clemson doesn’t get the same recognition as other programs simply because it’s not part of the SEC or Big Ten. National analysts—many of whom are employed by networks like Fox and ESPN—have a vested interest in promoting the conferences where their biggest investments lie. For over a decade (if not longer), preseason polls have consistently overstocked SEC and Big Ten teams, inflating their strength of schedule and giving certain programs a built-in safety net—especially with the expanded playoff.
Money talks, and it’s clear that financial incentives have tilted the playing field in what was once an amateur sport, now inching toward full professionalization (minus the structure of contracts or salary caps to keep things balanced). Despite these challenges, Clemson has adapted to stay competitive, but what truly sets the program apart is its unique culture. That culture not only attracts elite talent but also keeps the majority of our starters from jumping ship.
At the end of the day, Clemson has never quite fit the mold that the national media is paid to push—and that’s why the Tigers continue to be overlooked. But here’s hoping they shake up the college football world next season. Go Tigers!
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
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Feb 23, 2025, 6:27 PM
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I have never been paid to push anything for a specific team. Call it how we see it on the show. Been openly critical of Clemson last 2 seasons. Feel VERY different this year. Curious to see who else jumps on the wave…
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Re: Why is there not as much hype?
Feb 23, 2025, 6:57 PM
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Appreciate the response! I get that not every analyst is pushing a narrative, but there’s no denying how the media landscape tends to favor certain conferences. That said, it’s great to hear you’re feeling different about Clemson this year! The Tigers have been grinding, and there’s a lot to be excited about. Can’t wait to see how this season unfolds—should be a fun ride. Go Tigers!
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