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Why does Ruke not get the love the others do?
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Why does Ruke not get the love the others do?


Oct 7, 2022, 12:36 PM

With the discussions about Bresee and him missing so much with injury yet is still expected to be a very high draft pick, I wondered why Ruke does not get the attention. Bresee had a great freshman year;

23 total tackles, 13 solo and 4 sacks. That's huge but his only healthy year. Last year he had 13,6 and 1.5 and this year so far 8,4, and .5. Again - last year and this he was not available due to injury.

Ruke's best year was last year; 36, 11 and 2.5. This year he has gone 12, 6 and 2.

Tyler Davis's freshman year was his best; 44, 21 and 5.5. Monster year!! Last year he went 23, 8 and 2.5 and this year so far he is 10,5 and 2.

So...why does Ruke miss out on all the discussion highest quality DT's? I am assuming maybe Bresee and Davis get doubled more which brings there numbers down? I don't know the total snap counts for the above stats.....i.e. during the full years how many plays were they each in on to generate the number s they did. Just curious about how little we talk about Ruke and what he is doing.

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Oct 7, 2022, 12:48 PM

Defensive tackle may be the most "stats don't tell the story" position on the football field.

I would equate it with offensive linemen in the fact that you have to know about what they are being asked to do in a particular scheme to really understand how good they are.

Also as you mentioned, it is also the position that most often gets blocked by 2 OL which means their impact goes on somebody else's stat sheet.

In saying all of that, draft projections are rarely about stats for any defensive player. They are more about overall athleticism and projection to the next level.

Draft projections are also frequently wrong and people who get little attention in early projections end up shooting up draft boards and early round projections drop from everyone's list.

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I love ruke


Oct 7, 2022, 12:56 PM

Best thing about him . . . He plays

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Oct 7, 2022, 2:25 PM

reminds of grady jarret.relatively low rating coming in.how'd that work out?still one of my favs.

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Re: Why does Ruke not get the love the others do?


Oct 7, 2022, 1:03 PM

Agreed and also since Ajou Ajou left, he has the coolest name on the team!

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Oct 7, 2022, 5:15 PM

SPEAKING OF AJOU, he has 2 catches this season...... would have most likely had more had he stayed put and perfected his trade

teekay1 said:

Agreed and also since Ajou Ajou left, he has the coolest name on the team!




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Re: Why does Ruke not get the love the others do?


Oct 7, 2022, 1:07 PM

My take is college performance and statistics mean something but not a lot to the NFL. As one example, UGA defensive captain Nakobe Dean led UGA in tackles in 2020 and co-led in 2021 (143 tackles). He was also rated top high school LB in 2018, Gatorade POY and Butkus winner as top h.s. and college LB. Dean had a pec tear and was drafted 83rd. Travon Walker had 50 tackles over 2020-21 and went NFL #1.

Another example is the Power Rangers and the 2019 draft. Most Clemson fans including me could have told Mayock, Gruden and the Raiders that CW42 and Big Dex were much better players than the Missile. Now a few years later, Christian and Dex are team captains, and Clelin is a backup and a bust.

It's all how one NFL team perceives your development potential ... and we know NFL teams and experts often get it wrong. But to your point, Ruke has performed and looks like a diamond in the rough.

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Re: Why does Ruke not get the love the others do?


Oct 7, 2022, 2:00 PM

"Expert" sports media guys who project NFL players from CFB players take shortcuts.

They include HS recruiting rankings, and also College Conference pre-season all star lists when culling down their 'first round pick' guesses.

Ruke was unknown in HS, therefore he has been known for a shorter overall period of time than guys like Bresee.

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Oct 7, 2022, 3:37 PM [ in reply to Re: Why does Ruke not get the love the others do? ]

SocMan2® said:

Most Clemson fans including me could have told Mayock, Gruden and the Raiders that CW42 and Big Dex were much better players than the Missile. Now a few years later, Christian and Dex are team captains.....



Bingo.....DLs eat up blocks, not stats.

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Re: Why does Ruke not get the love the others do?


Oct 7, 2022, 1:08 PM

Maybe because sportscasters and writers can neither spell nor pronounce his name.... :)

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Not sure what you mean by get love.***


Oct 7, 2022, 1:14 PM



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Ruke gets plenty of love from the MfO household.***


Oct 7, 2022, 1:43 PM



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his bio said he played 2 years of HS. He is just getting


Oct 7, 2022, 1:48 PM

started.

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Not a high star rating.***


Oct 7, 2022, 2:06 PM



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Re: Why does Ruke not get the love the others do?


Oct 7, 2022, 2:11 PM

Kinda like DJ Reader. I think our D line is just so stacked
there's not enough love to go around. The truth is , if you're talented
enough to get in the rotation on our D line you have a shot at the next level

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Agreed!


Oct 7, 2022, 4:30 PM

He has been fantastic this year!

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