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Rival Killer [2635]
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Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:04 AM
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I suspect I am in the minority here, but I think this is a MUST WIN for Georgia.
Just being real here.
If Georgia were to lose the Clemson game I honestly don’t think they make the playoffs.
Schedule:
At top 4 Alabama
At top 3 Texas
At top 7 Mississippi
NOT TO MENTION Tennessee, Florida, Auburn
When you play 3 top 7 teams ON THE ROAD that is a problem. I don’t care how good you are. Then, the other solid teams on the schedule.
Three top 7 teams ON THE ROAD.
Not counting Clemson, I see 2 losses. Being honest.
Clemson is a top 12 or better team. Maybe a top 8 team. Too many people discounting Clemson. Coming off a 5 game winning streak. I think Clemson has a major chip on their should and are quietly but confidently looking at this game with Georgia as a way to show they are back.
Clemson has been written off and been told they don’t belong with Georgia or the elite teams. That does not sit well. I think Clemson has a real chip on their shoulder and are looking forward to the game majorly.
What better way to announce and show they are back than to beat the #1 ranked team in the country to open the season?
Ok, if Clemson loses to Georgia they can run the table in the ACC and win the ACC and be a top 4 seed. Reality. They don’t NEED to beat Georgia.
Georgia in a different situation. And, quite honestly, I don’t see how Georgia will make the playoffs if they lose the opener to you guys.
Just my honest thoughts and curious what you guys think?
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:06 AM
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Georgia needs it more. We could lose that game and run the table in the ACC and we are in.
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Orange Beast [6482]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:59 AM
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That’s not true. Ask FSU last year.
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National Champion [7567]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:14 AM
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Well there are 12 teams now and they would have been in. They also lost their most important player and there were only 4 options. They didn't deserve to be there.
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Orange Blooded [2513]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:07 AM
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It more important for UGA to win but Cade needs to have a good game or it’s gonna be a long season.
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Orange Immortal [64773]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:07 AM
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It certainly is Georgia. If Clemson loses, it is to the best team on Earth. If Georgia loses to Clemson, it is to that team none of the polls are showing respect and to a coach that some big-earred ESPN guy says is washed up.
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Orange Blooded [2149]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:21 AM
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Clover, did you realize your thumbs up to post ratio is pi? Well done! :0)
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Orange Immortal [64773]
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No I did not- not even sure how to find out.
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:38 AM
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Do I have to do Maffs?
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Top TigerNet [31779]
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shceudle doenst mean jack.. all your reasons odnt mean jack.
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:11 AM
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if Clemson loses they are out of the playoffs.
Disney can whip out the lexicon and get UGA into the playoffs even with 3 losses.
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Re: shceudle doenst mean jack.. all your reasons odnt mean jack.
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:42 AM
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No, if we lost to Georgia (and they’re certainly favored by double digits) and then ran the table, we would be in the CFB playoff. If we then lost to FSU and NC State and not make the ACC Championship, we’d be out for sure. We could get in with 2 loses AND an ACC Championship.
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Paw Master [16579]
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Re: shceudle doenst mean jack.. all your reasons odnt mean jack.
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:34 AM
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I doubt your last assumption, but who knows? Time will tell.
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Clemson Icon [25920]
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Re: shceudle doenst mean jack.. all your reasons odnt mean jack.
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Jun 20, 2024, 11:57 AM
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ACC champion is almost guaranteed an automatic bid in the playoffs. If Clemson wins the ACC we should be in.
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Tiger Titan [46071]
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Georgia, because they have legitimate national championship hopes.
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:12 AM
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Sadly, we don’t.
The game is really important for both teams though, and I expect both of us to come out with a lot of emotion.
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CU Medallion [19021]
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Sigh just inviting your adversaries.***
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Tiger Titan [46071]
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Dude, we arent a legitimate national championship contender this year.***
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Orange Immortal [64773]
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Re: Dude, we arent a legitimate national championship contender this year.***
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:42 AM
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I guess you will come back after that game and say you told us so....... or to admit you are wrong...... about everything?
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Dynasty Maker [3398]
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Paw Master [16579]
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Re: We actually are
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:46 AM
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I think if we get good OL play, the QB issue will disappear. JMO , and that’s a big supposition, I know, but hopefully Cade, et al, play well, and the OL is much improved, and we surprise a bunch of folks.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54551]
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CU Medallion [19021]
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Top TigerNet [31779]
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horse hockey
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:27 AM
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UGA could lose this game and win the SEC championship game.. Clemson could go undefeated the rest of the season..
And UGA could still make the playoffs while Clemson could get left out.
The integrity of the playoff committee went out the window the moment they pulled out ESPN's magical lexicon
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Game Day Hero [4109]
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Re: horse hockey
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:51 AM
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If Clemson wins the ACC, Clemson is in. Every conference champ has an auto bid to the top 4
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Paw Master [16579]
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Re: horse hockey
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:42 AM
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I hope you’re right, but I don’t trust the decision makers. Bias still exists, IMO.
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Top TigerNet [31779]
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tigernick clearly doesn't know about lexicons***
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:54 AM
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Paw Master [16579]
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Re: horse hockey
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:41 AM
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There is some truth in what you suggest.
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Clemson Icon [24170]
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Re: Georgia, because they have legitimate national championship hopes.
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:36 AM
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That’s how we start every basketball season, but sadly it isn’t the National Championship but just an ACC championship that we aspire to win. Thanks 🏈 😈
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Re: Georgia, because they have legitimate national championship hopes.
Jun 20, 2024, 12:21 PM
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I wonder if we'll ever win an ACC championship in men's basketball?
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Clemson Icon [24170]
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Re: Georgia, because they have legitimate national championship hopes.
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:36 AM
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That’s how we start every basketball season, but sadly it isn’t the National Championship but just an ACC championship that we aspire to win. Thanks 🏈 😈
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Orange Blooded [2149]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:17 AM
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Georgia is in the same position that Clemson was in five years ago. They are expected to win it all, so anything less is disappointing. Plus, the SEC is a tough conference with a lot of teams. All the talking heads have invested a lot in pumping up Georgia, so when Georgia finally (at some point) goes back to being normal, the media will drop them like a hot potato. That's a lot of pressure. Clemson can lose to Georgia and still make the playoff by winning the ACC, which is a much easier path.
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Paw Master [16579]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:48 AM
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The sec bias still will exist, regardless of what uga does. JMO
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CU Medallion [19322]
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Solid take. Well done.***
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:29 AM
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Paw Warrior [5031]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:37 AM
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Personally I’m more worried about app State. The world doesn’t even think we can stay on the field with Georgia. App state will be easy to overlook and a tough out. Imo.
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Game Day Hero [4109]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:53 AM
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Whoever scheduled App State is crazy. Whoever scheduled App State the week after UGA is insane.
We have a very talented team from a roster standpoint, but there is a legitimate possibility (though I think very small) we start 0-2.
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National Champion [7567]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:56 AM
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If we lose to App even after Georgia, we aren't that good.
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Orange Beast [6482]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 8:58 AM
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Tennessee. Florida. AllBarn. Garbage. Haven’t been relevant in the playoff era sans Scam Newton. At all. Alabama is the only team. Lane will Kiffin it up. The SEC schedule is over rated. Texas might be tough. They have oil money. It is pay to play after all.
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Paw Master [16579]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:50 AM
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Good post.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:32 AM
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Good post, and well stated. We have much improvement to make after the start of last year’s season, but about halfway through the year, even with several key players out, we seemed to be righting the ship. Time will tell. This game should be a good indication of how far we’ve come, or how far we have yet to go to be back in the NC/Playoff conversation.
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disagree.....pundits and playoff committee will do their best to keep
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:35 AM
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us out as we don;t fit their narrative, we NEED this win to shut every body
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 9:44 AM
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I honestly think Dabo needs this win more than Kirby. The nation had written Clemson and Dabo offf as a has been, so a loss here will just drive that home.
I personally think this is a very important game for Dabo and could determine the season early due to the negative from the media that will come with a loss.
JMO and nothing more!
Go Tigers!
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Dabo is fine with a fairly close loss. Clemson is a 14 point (or thereabouts) dog for a reason. However...if this one gets ugly for Clemson, the drum beat of Clemson no longer being a power will beat loudly.
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Game Day Hero [4334]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 12:55 PM
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I agree!
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 5:03 PM
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I agree.
To pile on what AFDawg said, the only good thing that can come from us losing to UGA is if it is a dogfight until the end. Otherwise, expect more of the same talking points from the ESecPN pundits.
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Game Day Hero [4281]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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BDog, that is a very fair and honest take. That said I feel that Bama will end up with at least 2 losses in the regular season and Texas even with a Charmin schedule outside of Jawga and Meatchicken will have two losses. I'd say more bur seriously, their schedule is as creamy of a cream puff as I have ever seen. It's embarrassing imo. All they needed to make it easier was to replace Yall with U of SC and I'd ask if they were in the SWAC.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 11:28 AM
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Honest take to be sure. Here's the difference as I see it. Clemson will be playing the game to win it. Georgia, based on the post, will be playing not to lose. If at any time during the game Georgia feels they are in a position to lose, they will.
The Tigers need to come out hard and fast and put the Dawgs on the defensive from the start. The same should be said for App. St. Do not give them a chance to believe that they can upset us.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 12:06 PM
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Georgia playing not to lose? You are mistaken if you don't think Kirby is going to be looking to make a statement in Atlanta.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Just going back to the OP. "must win" means "can't lose". Clearly Dawgnation thinks they have more to lose in this game than Clemson. A team with nothing to lose is dangerous. When you stand to lose everything?
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 1:38 PM
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The reality is if Georgia loses to Clemson as a double digit favorite, there is little reason to believe the Dawgs are going to win at Bama, Texas, or maybe even Ole Miss.
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Rival Killer [2908]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 11:28 PM
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If QB play and Oline play turns the corner this will be a game.
Honestly we may be looking at a 17 - 10 kind of game with the defenses.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 21, 2024, 9:46 AM
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Kentucky just put up 28 offensive points on Clemson. The Tigers aren't holding UGA'S offense to 10 or 17.
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MUCH more important to Clemson
Jun 20, 2024, 11:31 AM
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As you point out in your post UGA has multiple opportunities to regain momentum and reputation. Plus, UGA only needs to be the 5th best SEC team in order to make the playoffs. UGA has hardly any pressure on them for this game and can treat it like a preseason tuneup.
If Clemson loses in anything other than a very close game, the “Dabo’s done” narrative will haunt them all season with no chance of redemption until the playoffs. Plus, after last year, Cade, Riley, and the offense are probably emotionally fragile. Lose to UGA with poor offensive play and the season can unravel quickly.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 11:41 AM
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I think it is a more important for Clemson to win. If UGA loses they can make up for it the rest of the year and will still get in playoffs. If Clemson loses by more than one score we probably can't lose another game all year and make the playoffs.
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Orange Beast [6499]
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I don't think an early loss would affect UGA that much.
Jun 20, 2024, 11:49 AM
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It does not affect SEC standings and the Dawgs are an almost lock for the top 12 either way. Basically, just win the SEC and the rest does not really matter except for bragging rights. I feel like Clemson is in the same scenario. It would be nice for the Tigers to get the win just to set the tone for the season.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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We need a tone setting game for the rest of the season and our program overall. A win against UGA would be a huge shot of adrenaline for our program which could really use that boost right now after 3 somewhat lackluster seasons. Belief is a primary motivator and predictor of success and I really think we need it now more than ever.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
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Jun 20, 2024, 12:14 PM
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I agree that Georgia needs this game, but they will probably still get in the playoffs with 3 losses.
You know the SUC will get 4 teams in, and one of those will be Georgia. The B1G will put 3 teams in, the ACC 1 or 2, and the BIG 12 will put in 1 or 2.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 5:11 PM
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Clemson needs it more to build some confidence in their program. Right now everyone outside the program is waiting and praying for Clemson/Dabo to fail bc in their eyes his "refusal to adapt to the portal and NIL" should spell doom. If Clemson wins this and finishes with 1 loss and a run into the playoffs it changes the perspective on what Clemson is and how Dabo is doing things, especially if it's with a QB that had to be developed and not Portaled in or came in as a generational talent.
UGA on the other hand will get a pass if they lose especially if they finish with only 2 losses on the season. The SEC will get 3 teams in at a minimum, no way UGA is left out. No one questions how Kirby runs his program (outside of internet forums blasting his players for getting in trouble). At this point it is expected for UGA to replace Bama, a opening day loss will not kill the optics of that program. Clemson losses the way people are expecting (17+ points) the way voters look at them makes it an uphill battle to get in and a second loss leaves Clemson out with alot of negative talk going into the post season.
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 20, 2024, 10:56 PM
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especially if it's with a QB that had to be developed and not Portaled in or came in as a generational talent.
Wait, which team's QB are you talking about here?
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 21, 2024, 1:54 AM
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Well considering UGA has a QB people are high on I thought it was obvious I was talking about Cade.
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x6 CFP and x4 out of 5 consecutive Natty games Clemson
Jun 21, 2024, 6:52 AM
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that schedule is not hard at all if Georgia is a true champion ship team. I watched Clemson dismantle every single team for 6 straight years except for when they played the National Champion
Clemson needs this win more than Georgia. If Georgia loses to Clemson and one other of those teams, Georgia has slipped and their dynasty is over
I personally think y'all are over . I think Brock Bowers was your Travis Kelce / Rob Gronkowski. i think the TE is such a game changing position when you have an HOF player in that spot. I think that's the only reason y'all ucceeded so much recently .
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If you're scared, just say so Bulldog
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There's no shame in being scared. Clemson is tired of the disrespect from the media so, it's understandable that Bulldog fans would feel a tad bit nervous about the season opener. I can't blame them; I would be nervous too. GO TIGERS!
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Solid Orange [1308]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 21, 2024, 9:45 AM
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This will be a slobber knocker. Both teams badly need this win but for different reasons.
Georgia is out to make a statement and will likely run up the score given the opportunity.
Clemson obviously needs to get back on the path to the " elite " status that has eluded them of late.
We will need to get out of the gate quickly against the Dawgs and hang to the end.
As Dabo likes to say the last 4 minutes of the first half and the first 4 minutes of the second half will be the most critical 8 minutes of the game.
We absolutely must win the turnover battle or this game could get ugly in a hurry.
The game plan for Riley will be to be unpredictable with some new wrinkles not yet seen by our opponents yet is executed at a high level by Cade and our expected somewhat improved O line.
Of coursec a heavy dose of Mafah naturally will be a crucial part of that but we can't wear him out early by leaning on him too much.
If he's just getting lathered up early in the third Q I like our chances
Given an early lead our D can turn it on and hold off a dawg comeback.
Go Tigers !
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MVP [528]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 21, 2024, 1:33 PM
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No, must win for us in getting our program back on track toward the Natty!
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Rival Killer [2862]
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Nonsense assertion
Jun 21, 2024, 1:41 PM
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While a loss would damage Georgia's preseason reputation possibly more than a win would help Clemson's (the pundits would say "you can't put much stock in week 1"), the assertion that Georgia would miss the playoffs with a loss to Clemson is absurd.
Georgia would have to be worse than fifth in the SEC to not make the playoffs.
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All-TigerNet [5726]
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Re: Who needs it more in the opener? I think it is Georgia and here is why..
Jun 21, 2024, 2:44 PM
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A loss would definitely be more damaging to GA since they are a huge favorite. It's kinda like how losing to Duke last season basically started the destruction of our season but if they'd have lost to us it wouldn't have really mattered either way to them.
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