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Orange Immortal [64398]
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Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 14, 2025, 11:55 PM
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Wilt Chamberlin? Chucky Hepburn?
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
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Mar 14, 2025, 11:56 PM
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Andre Bovain
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 18, 2025, 1:56 PM
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Minutes after our loss. Totally living in your head. 🙂
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
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Mar 14, 2025, 11:56 PM
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No Mj is insane
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 14, 2025, 11:56 PM
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I get you’re making a joke but still
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 18, 2025, 9:24 PM
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Jordan is the bedt!
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
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Mar 14, 2025, 11:56 PM
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Chicky is what the guy said!
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Oscar
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Oscar Robertson
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
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Mar 15, 2025, 12:30 AM
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Michael Jordan followed by Lebron due to his career.
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Wilt and it isnt even close.***
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Re: Wilt and it isnt even close.***
Mar 15, 2025, 1:07 AM
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MJ - then Wilt.
Think about it - if they played 1 on 1, MJ would beat him. Wilt wouldn’t be able to drive past him.
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Re: Wilt and it isnt even close.***
Mar 15, 2025, 4:07 AM
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar
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Re: Wilt and it isnt even close.***
Mar 15, 2025, 4:59 AM
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MJ #1. Bird would eat Lebron up and talk trash to him while doing it.
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Re: Wilt and it isnt even close.***
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Mar 19, 2025, 10:46 AM
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Bill Russell!
11× NBA champion (1957, 1959–1966, 1968, 1969)[a]
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1958, 1961–1963, 1965)
12× NBA All-Star (1958–1969)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (1963)
3× All-NBA First Team (1959, 1963, 1965)
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NBA All-Defensive First Team (1969)
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No. 6 retired by NBA leaguewide
2× NCAA champion (1955, 1956)
NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player (1955)
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2× Helms Player of the Year (1955, 1956)
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WCC Player of the Year (1956)
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No. 6 retired by San Francisco Dons
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Re: Wilt and it isnt even close.***
Mar 18, 2025, 9:19 PM
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There is more to being the best than scoring and being tall.
It’s Larry bird and not even close.
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 15, 2025, 5:09 AM
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Michael Jordan
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Paw Warrior [4933]
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 15, 2025, 5:10 AM
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MJ is 1. Wilt is 2. Y’all can debate 3 with lots of good choices.
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 15, 2025, 7:45 AM
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Darryl Dawkins (Chocolate Thunder)
Side note: Cousin of Brian Dawkins.
Another side note: Holds record for most fouls in one season.
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 15, 2025, 7:48 AM
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Wilt the Stilt, MJ, LeBron
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Mar 15, 2025, 8:18 AM
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Jordan, Wilt, Bird , Jabbar, Magic, Kobe.
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 18, 2025, 1:55 PM
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The NBA is all about championship rings, if that is the gage Bill Russell won 11 titles in 13 years. If rings are not the gage I will say MJ, Wilt, LeBron, Bird & Magic but Russell, Jabbar & the Big O are right up there
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Mar 15, 2025, 10:58 AM
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Larry Bird
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Will Solomon***
Mar 15, 2025, 11:20 AM
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Wilt
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Most consecutive 20+ point games
126 by Wilt Chamberlain from October 19, 1961 – January 19, 1963
Most consecutive 25+ point games
80 by Wilt Chamberlain
Most consecutive 30+ point games
65 by Wilt Chamberlain from November 4, 1961 – February 22, 1963
Most consecutive 35+ point games
33 by Wilt Chamberlain (Jan 3 to February 22, 1962)
Most consecutive 40+ point games
14 by Wilt Chamberlain (Dec 8 to 30, 1961) and Wilt Chamberlain (Jan 11 to February 1, 1962)
Most consecutive 45+ point games
9 by Wilt Chamberlain (Nov 9 to 23, 1962)[
Most consecutive 50+ point games
7 by Wilt Chamberlain (Dec 16 to 29, 1961)
Most consecutive 55+ point games
5 by Wilt Chamberlain (Feb 25 to March 4, 1962)
Most consecutive 60+ point games
4 by Wilt Chamberlain (Feb 25 to March 2, 1962)
Most minutes per game averaged, career
45.8 by Wilt Chamberlain
Most consecutive seasons leading league in total points
7 by Wilt Chamberlain (1959–60–1965–66) and Michael Jordan (1986–87–1992–93)
Most 40-point games, career
271 by Wilt Chamberlain
Most 50-point games, career
118 by Wilt Chamberlain
Most consecutive field goals made
35 by Wilt Chamberlain from February 17–28, 1967
Most rebounds, career
23,924 by Wilt Chamberlain
Highest rebounds per game average, career
22.9 by Wilt Chamberlain
Most point-rebound double-doubles, career
968 by Wilt Chamberlain
Longest continuous streak of double-doubles
227 consecutive double-doubles by Wilt Chamberlain from 1964 to 1967
Most seasons leading league in rebounds
11 by Wilt Chamberlain
Only player with a quadruple double-double (40 or more in two of five stats) in a game
Wilt Chamberlain (8 times): On November 4, 1959 (41pts, 40rebs) - On January 15, 1960 (44pts, 42rebs) - On January 25, 1960 (58pts, 42rebs) - On February 6, 1960 (44pts, 45rebs) - On January 21, 1961 (56pts, 45rebs) - On December 8, 1961 (78pts, 43rebs) - On October 26, 1962 (50pts, 41rebs) - On November 22, 1964 (50pts, 40rebs)
Wilt Chamberlain is the only player in NBA history to average 30 points and 20 rebounds per game in a season, a feat he accomplished seven times.
Averaging 30 points and 20 rebounds:
Chamberlain is the only player to ever average 30 points and 20 rebounds per game in a season, and he did this seven times throughout his career.
Other notable achievements:
He also once averaged 50 points per game and 48 minutes per game in a season.
Most 30-30 games:
Chamberlain holds the record for the most games with at least 30 points and rebounds in NBA history, with 124.
Chamberlain led the league in total assists 1967–68, with 702 assists; he remains the only center to lead the league in assists. Only player in NBA history to lead the league in rebounds and assists the same season (a feat he accomplished during the '67-68 season)
Only double-triple-doubles (20/20/20s) in a game (20+ in any 3 stats)
Wilt Chamberlain had 22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists on February 4, 1968
Russell Westbrook had 20 points, 20 rebounds, and 21 assists on April 2, 2019
Nikola Jokić had 31 points, 23 rebounds, and 22 assists on March 8, 2025
Only player with at least 35 points, 15 assists, 20 rebounds in a game
Wilt Chamberlain (24rebs) vs. the Seattle SuperSonics on February 14, 1968
Most points in a game by a rookie
58 by Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia Warriors (vs. Detroit Pistons) on January 25, 1960
58 by Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia Warriors (at New York Knicks) on February 21, 1960
Most points in first career game (NBA debut)
43 by Wilt Chamberlain vs. the New York Knicks on October 24, 1959
Fewest games played to reach 30,000 points
940 by Wilt Chamberlain
Fewest games played to reach 25,000 points
691 by Wilt Chamberlain
Fewest games played to reach 20,000 points
499 by Wilt Chamberlain
Fewest games played to reach 15,000 points
358 by Wilt Chamberlain
Fewest games played to reach 10,000 points
236 by Wilt Chamberlain
Most points per game by a rookie
37.6 by Wilt Chamberlain, 1959–60
10,000 Rebounds – Wilt Chamberlain (28 years, 81 days) on November 10, 1964
15,000 Rebounds – Wilt Chamberlain (30 years, 176 days) on February 13, 1967
Most rebounds in a game by a rookie
45 by Wilt Chamberlain, Philadelphia Warriors (vs. Syracuse Nationals) on February 6, 1960
Most rebounds in first career game (NBA debut)
28 by Wilt Chamberlain vs. the New York Knicks on October 24, 1959
Most rebounds in rookie season
1,941 by Wilt Chamberlain, 1959–60
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I remember a kid
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Mar 15, 2025, 12:41 PM
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Named Maravich who was pretty good! His dad was the Tiger coach when I was a cadet.
Pistol Pete.
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This is the only answer***
Mar 18, 2025, 1:39 PM
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
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Mar 18, 2025, 1:13 PM
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Hate to say it.....LeBron
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Laughable.***
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Re: Laughable.***
Mar 19, 2025, 6:07 PM
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Hysterical laughter.
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Mar 18, 2025, 1:41 PM
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Basketball Jones
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
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Mar 18, 2025, 2:45 PM
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That you didn't immediately think and write Michael Jordan instantly disqualifies your entire post!
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 18, 2025, 3:26 PM
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1. LeBron
2. MJ
Then everyone else.
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Bill Russell! Championships matter***
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 18, 2025, 7:30 PM
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MJ. No auestion. An under rated player was bill russell. Count the banners.
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Cooper Flagg***
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 18, 2025, 8:52 PM
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LeBron James???....pfffttttwahahahahahaha!!!!
Yeah right....
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Mar 18, 2025, 8:58 PM
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I haven't read all the answers, but my vote is for David Thompson.
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 18, 2025, 9:20 PM
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Interesting choice. The drugs hit the better of him preventing him from doing more. Definitely one of the most talented players.
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Stop***
Mar 18, 2025, 9:15 PM
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Paw Warrior [4829]
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Plenty on list, but Larry Bird was best all around.
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Mar 18, 2025, 9:18 PM
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His shooting is legendary, but his passing, shot fakes, rebounding, total basketball skills were better than anyone I have ver seen or watched.
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Paw Warrior [4810]
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Re: Plenty on list, but Larry Bird was best all around.
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Mar 18, 2025, 9:32 PM
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Had to see what AI thought about all this…it’s long
1. Michael Jordan (GOAT Argument - Peak Dominance & Titles)
• 6× NBA Champion, 6× Finals MVP, 5× MVP
• Career Averages: 30.1 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 5.3 APG, 2.3 SPG (NBA Record for Highest Career PPG)
• Advanced Stats: 27.9 PER (Best in NBA history), 214.0 WS, 56.9 TS%
• Playoff Dominance: 33.4 PPG (NBA record)
2. LeBron James (GOAT Argument - Longevity & All-Around Play)
• 4× NBA Champion, 4× Finals MVP, 4× MVP
• All-Time Leading Scorer (40,000+ Points and Counting)
• Career Averages: 27.1 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 7.4 APG
• Advanced Stats: 27.3 PER, 255+ WS (Most in NBA history), 58.7 TS%
• Playoff Dominance: Most all-time playoff points
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (GOAT Argument - Longevity & Consistency)
• 6× NBA Champion, 6× MVP (Most MVPs in History)
• 38,387 Points (All-Time Leader Until LeBron Surpassed Him)
• Career Averages: 24.6 PPG, 11.2 RPG, 3.6 APG
• Advanced Stats: 24.6 PER, 273.4 WS (NBA record)
Who is the Best According to Stats?
• Most Points Ever: LeBron James
• Most MVPs: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (6)
• Highest Career PPG: Michael Jordan (30.1)
• Best PER (Player Efficiency Rating): Michael Jordan (27.9)
• Most Win Shares (Overall Impact): Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (273.4)
Verdict:
• If you value peak dominance & scoring efficiency → Michael Jordan
• If you value all-around greatness & longevity → LeBron James
• If you value sustained excellence & accolades → Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
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Paw Warrior [4829]
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Re: Plenty on list, but Larry Bird was best all around.
Mar 19, 2025, 7:58 AM
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Absolutely all of those stats are real.
However, the question posed was entirely different.
It was who is the best basketball player.
Simply Larry Bird.
His mastery of the total game was above the others.
Your list was a stat list of specific things, points, championships, etc. but if you add them all up and then watch the tape, it tells the true story.
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People from Larry Bird's era acknowledge either Bill Russel or MJ.
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Larry Bird was amazing and is on my all-time team, but MJ drove his teams to championships more than even Bird. MJ's defense was even better than Bird's. I like Bird more, but it's simply not rational on any level to act like MJ wasn't the best. Magic Johnson (who I also like more than MJ) explains it best. The more you know about behind-the scenes NBA from the 80's onward, the more confident you get that MJ was the best. Nobody who knows says Bird is better than MJ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAMxKR91Eoc
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AI didn't factor in that they no longer actually play defense in the Lebron-era.
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The rules changes made it impossible to compare anything after the early 2000's to previous eras.
No other sport has been so thoroughly sabotaged like that.
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LeFlop would have cried, then quit if he had to play in the 80's-90's era.***
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He was built to handle that era, and I think without all the weak influence of
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today's society that he would have been more manly back then. So I think he would have been a good player in the 80's-90's had he been born earlier.
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Interesting theory lol***
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Guards got handled by the whole team.***
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you're probably right.. i just can't get over the acting he does in terms of
Mar 19, 2025, 11:30 AM
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faking pain and trying to get fouls he doesnt' deserve. I'll always remember him that way. Jordan argued over fouls as well but i don't remember him flopping to the outlandish degree that lebron does.
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Lebron does that because the culture around him says its ok.
Mar 19, 2025, 5:06 PM
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Nobody did that back in the day. Nobody. It was purged out.
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Mar 18, 2025, 9:42 PM
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 19, 2025, 11:18 AM
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MJ says that the best center of all-time is Hakeem Olojuwan.
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i think you're asking "Who's the second best of all time."
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thats an actual good debate to have. Bird or Lebron?
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Re: i think you're asking "Who's the second best of all time."
Mar 19, 2025, 11:53 AM
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If I had to put my best together and it wasn't for career, but just at their best for a game my team would be...
Lebron at PG. He can play anywhere.
Jordan 2
Kobe 3
Bird. 4
Olojuwan 5
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My opinion
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Pistol Pete Maravich.
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Mar 19, 2025, 2:27 PM
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Tom Wideman!!!👊
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 19, 2025, 2:35 PM
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We talking about a game or practice? I'm talking about practice, practice! Allen Iverson was good, Dr J was unbelievable, Magic was amazing, Kareem just about unstoppable, Wilt was unstoppable, Bill Russell was awesome, Kobi was as close to Jordan as anyone, Bird would talk sh it then beat you to death while letting you know there wasn't a thing you could do about it, But, there is only 1 - MJ, an he is the GOAT!
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Paw Master [17801]
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
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Mar 19, 2025, 3:00 PM
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I'll stick with MJ for now.
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All-TigerNet [5885]
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My personal top 10
Mar 19, 2025, 3:06 PM
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1. LeBron James
2 Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Bill Russell
8. Larry Bird
9. Shaquille O'Neal
10. Kobe Bryant or Steph Curry
Note: The top 5 are the greatest of all-time at their positions IMO.
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Orange Blooded [2265]
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 19, 2025, 4:59 PM
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LeBron is physically the best best there are many with better heads on their shoulders.
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Heisman Winner [78208]
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?***
Mar 19, 2025, 5:02 PM
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Heisman Winner [78208]
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 19, 2025, 5:03 PM
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Bill Russell, julius lrving
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Paw Master [16417]
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 19, 2025, 5:59 PM
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Pistol Pete
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Orange Blooded [2383]
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Wilt. they had to make new rules because he was so dom[nant***
Mar 19, 2025, 6:16 PM
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National Champion [7783]
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Lebron
Mar 19, 2025, 7:22 PM
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he has dominated the NBA my entire life . from 3rd grade to today .
I saw Jordan's flu game. i saw Gretzkys last game .
Lebrons legacy has been my whole life. that's legendary
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All-Time Great [88013]
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You take the number of rings and add the number of MVPs
Mar 19, 2025, 7:34 PM
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and you get the #16 and Bill Russell.
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Game Changer [1818]
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Re: Who is the greatest basketball player of all time? LeBron James? Larry Bird?
Mar 20, 2025, 3:39 PM
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Wake Forest San Antonio Spurs Gentleman Tim Duncan by far and 2nd Larry Bird
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