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If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 7:22 AM
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Does he make a return to Clemson as a Co-Defensive Coordinator? Could you imagine Wes Goodwin's genius combined with Coach V's intensity?
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Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
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Oct 28, 2024, 7:29 AM
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
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Oct 28, 2024, 7:31 AM
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Nobody
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:39 AM
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I think overall Wes has done a good job the last 2 years. He held UGA to 6 points in the first half.
That being said, we will find out over the next 3 weeks how good Wes really is as we go against 3 good offense's with a championship on the line. If we hold all 3 to under 30 points, I would consider that pretty good.
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Re: I was thinking holding these 3 O's to 17-21 @ most would be good...
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Oct 28, 2024, 9:07 AM
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We will see.
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:51 PM
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Since he took over as DC, Clemson's defense has not been the same. 80th in the Country in defense, and you say he has done a good job? He coaches like a High School coach.
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:48 PM
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That was the first half. He got blugeoned by Georgia's OC halftime adjustments. Football is a four quarter game, not 2 Qtrs. If Venables is let go, Get him back to Clemson to mentor Goodwin. He is simply a superior DC.
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
Oct 28, 2024, 1:28 PM
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Hey I never said he was a BV. BV is the best DC we've had since Brother Bill Oliver and probably the best ever at CU IMO. I also concede we are not as agressive. But the offense did nothing to help the D against UGA. We'll know more after the next 3 games.
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Re: Pitts offense abysmal ?
Oct 29, 2024, 8:50 AM
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What ?
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
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Oct 28, 2024, 1:06 PM
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Dabo acted too fast in hiring Goodwin. He made a mistake. It angers me to see when he has the "horses" he has in the DL, yet they couldn't get to the Virginia QB. Did you see North Carolina sack that guy time after time? UNC's DC did a much better job of stopping Virginia. Something is OFF with Goodwin.
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
Oct 28, 2024, 2:02 PM
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You and Bill inhaled!
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Re: Who are you firing off the defensive staff?***
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Oct 28, 2024, 2:25 PM
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Either our defensive talent is down or Wes is less than BV as our defense has not performed as well especially this year. If not for our offense coming around this year we may have another loss or two.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 7:36 AM
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No we are good with who we got. Besides we don’t have a spot for him.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:00 AM
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I wouldn’t mind bringing him back. Defense has got a little soft since he has left.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 8:53 AM
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That’s because they don’t run the same offense. Wes is doing just fine.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 8:53 AM
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Defense 🤦🏼♂️
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 11:43 AM
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I’m not saying Wes is doing a bad job, but I miss that fire and swagger the defense once had.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 1:07 PM
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That had more to do with the players on the team. It doesn't matter what you call if the players can't execute it.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 1:13 PM
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A coach can light a fire in his players in my opinion. The swagger comes naturally though.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 1:08 PM
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AMEN !!!! anybody with half a brain can see that Clemson's isn't what it was with BV.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 2:28 PM
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Yes, Easy to see we have very little pass rush and we are not gap sound in running game.
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This was essentially the situation from 2018-2021.***
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Oct 28, 2024, 7:58 AM
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:12 AM
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I think he would just come back and hang out for a while with OU paying him. I doubt that he would immediately be a paid part of the staff.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:25 AM
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Wes is doing just fine. Tigers have a very good defense. I’m sorry BV isn’t having the season a lot of us thought he’d have but Dabo made a good hire in BV’s place. Give Coach V more time.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 8:28 AM
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no.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 8:36 AM
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Lets hope it doesn't come to that. Let's hope that CV can right the ship and succeed. He deserves to.
GO TIGERS BEAT THE CARDINALS !!!!!
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:59 PM
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Coach Venebles is a DC, not a HC. Some people make great assistants, but not good HC's
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Why would he be fired?
Oct 28, 2024, 8:40 AM
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Coaches can get fired because half their offense is injured?
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Orange Phenom [14106]
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Yes!
Oct 28, 2024, 10:50 AM
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This is CFB we are talking about
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:42 AM
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This defense will get exposed the 1st time Clemson plays a competent offense. Part of the reason this defense isn’t in the same league as the Brent defense’s is absolute lack of intensity
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Rival Killer [2899]
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With the exception of Woods, Woodaz, and a couple of others, yes.
Oct 28, 2024, 12:46 PM
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Especially the backups.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 8:43 AM
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Coach V has 2 more years. I hope. As for Clemson, who knows. I find it ironic that many on here are worshipping at the feet of Jeff Scott who was a bust at a much smaller program and conference than Oklahoma and who was only a co-Offensive Coordinator and can't wait to get him back on staff but Venebles who was the best DC IN COLLEGE FB, NOT SO MUCH.
Maybe he will move back to Clemson and buy a bigger house on Lake Keowee and hang out with his best friend Dabo and enjoy his 45 million plus buyout money. That's what I would do.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:57 AM
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I don’t think Jeff was all that. He could recruit for sure. I think this coaching staff is just as good as the national title teams. However this is a different college football and I’m not talking about the problems with nil and transfers. Those two things on the flip side have created much more parity and diversified the talent.
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:54 AM
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Jeff was a phenomenal recruiter and WR coach. OC? Not so much.
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Did he sell his old one?
Oct 28, 2024, 9:21 AM
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I thought I read on here that someone ran into him at the gVille airport during one of the “let’s go to the lake” holidays. Someone else posted that they still have the same place. 🤷🏻♂️
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 9:17 AM
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IMO BV won't be fired, and if for some strange reason he was fired, he could get a lot better job than a co DC job anywhere in college FB. People will mostly remember what he did at Clemson as the DC!!!
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:15 AM
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Coaches dont typically do that.... Go from A to B... B doesnt work out, so go back to A.
Bobby Petrino did that in a round about way at Louisville but it was a long time period and they had changed conferences and such in that time he was gone.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 10:41 AM
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No - Venables will not get fired this year
No - Venables will not return to Clemson
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 12:57 PM
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Someone will eventually replace Goodwin. The Natioinal image of Clemson Defensive is fading under his leadership.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:42 AM
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No we have a DC that is doing just fine.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:56 PM
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He needs to be fired.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:50 AM
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I am sorry, but anyone who would not welcome back BV with open arms is insane !!
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C'mon, Man, you can't put the genie back in the bottle once it has gotten out.
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Oct 28, 2024, 10:53 AM
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We are now part of Brent's history, and he has moved on to higher ground. We got who we got now, and they are doing pretty doggone well. Don't be fooled by garbage time points allowed, the defense has played well.
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Venables is not coming back. Just give it up.***
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 12:51 PM
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BV would be in high demand as a coordinator for a number of high profile programs. I just don't see him crawling back to Clemson with his tail between his legs. He has too much pride and he really doesn't need to do that.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 3:59 PM
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How would a DC job at Clemson be any more tail-between-the-legs than DC at some other school ??
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:55 PM
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Wes Goodwin isn't a genius. Man, are you blind. 31 points to Virgina, who got destoryed by UNC. 35 points to NC State, 3-4 team? Louisville can score, and perhaps we'll see the weakness of Goodwin in this game once more. And what about Cam Ward (Miami). I'm terribly concerned about Goodwin's defense against the Best QB Clemson will face all year.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 1:34 PM
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If that happens, I have no doubt Dabo will move on from Wes. We have too much coming back next year and Dabo won't put up with subpar defensive play.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 12:56 PM
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Never happen.
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 1:21 PM
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It's doubtful he will be fired this early.
I think if he's treated fairly they would likely
wait until he attains a top performing QB.
They should at least afford him that luxury.
At the moment Oklahoma has a QB ranked outside the top 100 in the nation ( Jackson Arnold ).
I had to read that twice before saying.
How odd is it that Oklahoma lacks a QB ?
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
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Oct 28, 2024, 1:36 PM
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Fire Wes and hire Brent. Or demote was if he will take it…. Easy
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Re: If Coach Venables Is Fired
Oct 28, 2024, 4:00 PM
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Not gonna happen...
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