|
When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
|
Replies: 50
| visibility 7390
|
Orange Elite [5356]
TigerPulse: 93%
38
|
When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
8
14
8
14
Nov 16, 2024, 8:57 PM
|
|
in the second half then you lose your tempo and rhythm and it is hard to get back again. That is exactly what happened in the second half. Dabo is not a very good offensive coach. Chad Morris would not allow Dabo to interfere with his play calling.
|
|
|
|
 |
Campus Hero [13214]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
Posts: 12120
Joined: 2000
|
LOL! What is this? Story time? You're so wrong it hurts!***
6
1
6
Nov 16, 2024, 9:00 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Fan [34]
TigerPulse: 82%
4
|
Re: LOL! What is this? Story time? You're so wrong it hurts!***
1
5
5
Nov 16, 2024, 9:03 PM
|
|
Moon is spot on. What are you watching?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13214]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
Posts: 12120
Joined: 2000
|
this Dabo calling offense theory is born by morons and quite worn out
4
Nov 16, 2024, 9:22 PM
|
|
If you don't like Dabo, okay. But this theory is just stupid
|
|
|
|
|
|
Fan [34]
TigerPulse: 82%
4
|
Re: this Dabo calling offense theory is born by morons and quite worn out
Nov 16, 2024, 9:53 PM
|
|
I like Dabo. Same offensive team played the 2nd half. How is that explained?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dynasty Maker [3204]
TigerPulse: 75%
34
|
It's easy to explain.
1
Nov 17, 2024, 12:32 PM
|
|
We got behind in the 2nd half. We were lucky that Cade broke the long QB draw or we would have lost the game. .
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Immortal [165803]
TigerPulse: 100%
69
Posts: 69198
Joined: 2013
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5495]
TigerPulse: 100%
38
|
Re: LOL! What is this? Story time? You're so wrong it hurts!***
Nov 16, 2024, 9:54 PM
[ in reply to LOL! What is this? Story time? You're so wrong it hurts!*** ] |
|
We do have more success with the faster tempo, but then we just abandon it. That was painfully obvious against Louisville. I can’t say Dabo is the cause.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Associate AD [1090]
TigerPulse: 100%
25
|
Re: LOL! What is this? Story time? You're so wrong it hurts!***
Nov 17, 2024, 6:39 PM
|
|
Have you ever thought that, wait for it,,, hurry up offensive is not so new anymore. D coaches have learned to adjust to it. It still works to a degree but it’s not as effective as it was several years ago. I liked it when Tigers ran it but you have to have the right players in place to run it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2604]
TigerPulse: 74%
33
|
Re: LOL! What is this? Story time? You're so wrong it hurts!***
Nov 18, 2024, 1:02 AM
|
|
Can't really adapt to be tired, worn out.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-Time Great [97890]
TigerPulse: 100%
63
Posts: 97398
Joined: 2009
|
The concept is to wear an opponent's defense down and take advantagle of them...
3
Nov 16, 2024, 9:00 PM
|
|
being tired. Catch them off guard and skin their butts.
|
|
|
|
|
|
National Champion [8069]
TigerPulse: 100%
42
|
Re: The concept is to wear an opponent's defense down and take advantagle of them...
3
Nov 16, 2024, 9:20 PM
|
|
Is that what happened? Nope.
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerNet Champion [117879]
TigerPulse: 100%
65
Posts: 76145
Joined: 2003
|
Re: The concept is to wear an opponent's defense down and take advantagle of them...
1
Nov 16, 2024, 9:58 PM
|
|
weird, that is what I saw on Cade's TD run.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16860]
TigerPulse: 91%
51
Posts: 27070
Joined: 2003
|
I saw TJ make a great block on the perimeter and Cade make a nice cutback***
2
Nov 16, 2024, 10:06 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [17342]
TigerPulse: 95%
51
Posts: 26296
Joined: 2006
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Master [16860]
TigerPulse: 91%
51
Posts: 27070
Joined: 2003
|
We planned it like that...Clearly we wore them down with incompletions***
1
1
Nov 17, 2024, 3:51 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [6713]
TigerPulse: 100%
41
|
Re: Why Would He Interfere In The First Place ??? ---
4
Nov 16, 2024, 9:04 PM
|
|
Thats the question that could lead to a lot of discoveries and answers we've all been looking for.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Game Changer [1842]
TigerPulse: 100%
31
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
2
Nov 16, 2024, 9:21 PM
|
|
Honestly I think believe it or not he’s trying to shorten the game after getting a 10 point lead bc he doesn’t trust the defense , which is something we haven’t said in a very long time
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [365]
TigerPulse: 99%
16
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 1:34 AM
|
|
Doesn’t trust the defense? We had how many 3 and outs in the second half? If it wasn’t for the defense, we would have lost 56-24. If you don’t trust your defense, you score a lot of points, not leave the on the field for 12 minutes in a quarter
|
|
|
|
|
|
Standout [217]
TigerPulse: 96%
13
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
2
Nov 16, 2024, 9:24 PM
|
|
Not GR offense. It's Clemson's offense.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-Pro [741]
TigerPulse: 80%
22
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
1
Nov 16, 2024, 9:45 PM
|
|
Chad Morris was bad and was fired! The rest is your speculation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1543]
TigerPulse: 80%
30
|
Chad left for a HC opportunity.***
6
6
Nov 16, 2024, 9:49 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Paw Warrior [4721]
TigerPulse: 100%
37
|
Re: Chad left for a HC opportunity.***
Nov 17, 2024, 1:03 PM
|
|
Exactly, he was NOT fired. Dude doesn't know what he's talking about.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [398]
TigerPulse: 91%
16
|
Re: Chad left for a HC opportunity.***
Nov 17, 2024, 6:31 PM
|
|
Chad would advise throwing on 3rd and one or 4th and one. And you see how he did as an SEC head coach. Don’t ever want him back.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1543]
TigerPulse: 80%
30
|
The fact you think Chad Morris was fired should nullify any opinion you ha
2
Nov 16, 2024, 9:52 PM
[ in reply to Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did ] |
|
Yes it is speculation on how involved Dabo is. He is still the HC and can override plays and dictate pace. I wouldn't be surprised if he made GR slow it down and eat the clock in the second half.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [3827]
TigerPulse: 100%
35
|
|
|
|
|
|
Commissioner [1232]
TigerPulse: 86%
27
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5356]
TigerPulse: 93%
38
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [398]
TigerPulse: 91%
16
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 6:33 PM
|
|
And how did that go?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Game Day Hero [4379]
TigerPulse: 100%
36
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2289]
TigerPulse: 96%
32
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 1:54 PM
[ in reply to Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did ] |
|
Sometimes it's better to keep your thoughts to yourself and let people wonder if you are ignorant, than to open your mouth and let everyone know for sure!!
Chad Morris was bad and was fired! The rest is your speculation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Game Changer [1923]
TigerPulse: 100%
31
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 16, 2024, 10:27 PM
|
|
I keep hearing some say Dabo micromanages the offense. Do you have any evidence of this?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [365]
TigerPulse: 99%
16
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
2
Nov 17, 2024, 1:41 AM
|
|
Well, we have had 3 offensive coordinators over 4 years and it all looks like the sos. Do you see it differently? I’d go back to say it looks like the offense did when Dabo was first hired. I don’t think that is a coincidence. I don’t think they trust Cade enough to run GR’s offense, so they are using Dabo’s. No conspiracy other than that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Game Changer [1923]
TigerPulse: 100%
31
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 10:50 AM
|
|
You call that evidence? That’s not. Projecting. Extrapolating
|
|
|
|
|
|
Varsity [116]
TigerPulse: 100%
11
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did***
Nov 17, 2024, 6:20 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Varsity [116]
TigerPulse: 100%
11
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 6:25 PM
[ in reply to Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did ] |
|
You call that evidence? That’s not. Projecting. Extrapolating
I don't think he was calling it "evidence." He is just pointing out a pattern. May or may not mean anything, but I don't think it was empirical evidence one way or another.
Can't we at least discuss the obvious change of offensive play quality. Has to be some reason for it. Unless we are accepting that Pitt simply made adjustments and we had no answer...until tempo picked back up on that last drive and Cade got loose and in space.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [365]
TigerPulse: 99%
16
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
1
Nov 17, 2024, 10:37 PM
|
|
I mean from my armchair and bleacher, Cade looks like a 5* QB when the games on the line or he’s playing with tempo and a 4* when we start the conservative and slower play style comes out. As for the evidence, I’d watch the 2022 South Carolina second half with a different QB and OC and compare it to yesterday’s second half before the final do or die drive.
It’s not a knock on Dabo, he’s a conservative guy. It’s won us championships. But this year we don’t have the dudes healthy enough to play methodically. Just let Cade ball out and he’ll look like freaking Lamar Jackson
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2235]
TigerPulse: 93%
32
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 16, 2024, 10:29 PM
|
|
Give me a break.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [8719]
TigerPulse: 100%
43
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 4:41 AM
|
|
Riley's offense has always been overrated, even at TCU.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [19236]
TigerPulse: 100%
52
Posts: 11718
Joined: 2018
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
1
Nov 17, 2024, 11:32 AM
|
|
Dabo exclusively focuses on getting the win and not style points. With all the injuries, I really think he just wanted to get out with an ugly win rather than a pretty loss.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Game Day Hero [4379]
TigerPulse: 100%
36
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 12:28 PM
|
|
THIS.. anybody remember the game at Auburn several years ago? When we had to Sean Watson and all those studs on the team? While I think we could have beaten that Auburn team by 20 points Dabo admitted post game he went conservative because as he put it he had seen a lot of crazy things happen at that field. That's who he is and will always be. I'm not as bothered by it as something to me. As long as we get the w. Every now and then it will backfire. It does happen. Are there other things that we need to address? Yeah and it's going to start with coughing up some nil money or we're going to start losing all of the recruits in my opinion
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rival Killer [2637]
TigerPulse: 100%
33
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
1
Nov 17, 2024, 12:59 PM
|
|
Sean Watson? Don’t remember him.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5356]
TigerPulse: 93%
38
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Elite [5356]
TigerPulse: 93%
38
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
2
Nov 17, 2024, 6:20 PM
|
|
It was a prayer answered as we were outplayed and outcoached.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [365]
TigerPulse: 99%
16
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 10:45 PM
|
|
Well Cade did say he prayed before the drive
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [365]
TigerPulse: 99%
16
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
1
Nov 17, 2024, 10:43 PM
[ in reply to Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did ] |
|
I agree, but I think with the injuries, the slow play style actually hurt more than just letting Cade play tempo and sling it around. That conservative offense has both won us games and lost (or nearly lost) us games.
I call it the prevent offense.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Campus Hero [13232]
TigerPulse: 100%
48
Posts: 16609
Joined: 2010
|
this is likely***
Nov 17, 2024, 12:01 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Game Day Hero [4187]
TigerPulse: 100%
36
|
These same clowns are the ones screaming to run the ball every play.
Nov 17, 2024, 6:26 PM
|
|
Quit making up stories you know nothing about.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Playmaker [365]
TigerPulse: 99%
16
|
Re: These same clowns are the ones screaming to run the ball every play.
2
Nov 17, 2024, 10:53 PM
|
|
I don’t think it’s run vs not run, it’s tempo that’s looks to be the issue to me. When Cade slows everything down and has too much time to think, he overthinks and makes mistakes. When he plays with tempo and purpose, he’s a Heisman contender. I think they just need to let Cade play his speed and not overthink everything. Get a first down and keep it going vs waiting 35 seconds while everyone is lined up in the shotgun to start the next play.
I’m not a coach, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express in Pittsburgh Friday night.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Gridiron Giant [15701]
TigerPulse: 100%
50
Posts: 10048
Joined: 2016
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 17, 2024, 11:19 PM
|
|
When the old truck is running on fumes, the engine is smoking and knocking, the tires are bald, and the spare is flat, you don't go pedal to the metal. You get the trip done and get home the best way you can without blowing it up.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [3673]
TigerPulse: 100%
35
|
Re: When you slow Rileys offense down as Dabo did
Nov 18, 2024, 6:19 AM
|
|
OL was limited by the injuries in not having backups they could sub. This may have been the reason for lack of second half effectiveness and the slowing down of the offense. Yes, defenses can tire faster due to having to run to the ball more, but OL playing that many plays w/o subs can wear them down too.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 50
| visibility 7390
|
|
|
|
50
