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The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Even when those who criticized Dabo's previous decisions—like avoiding the portal, making questionable hires, neglecting player development, and managing the roster poorly—applauded the recent changes, the response is baffling.
Instead of acknowledging, "You guys had valid points, and Dabo has made great adjustments based on those critiques," some posters insist, "Dabo is infallible! How dare anyone question him? These changes just prove his brilliance!"
It's a frustrating example of cognitive dissonance at its finest. Rather than engaging with the reality of constructive criticism leading to improvement, they double down on blind hero worship.
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Quack. Quack. Quack.
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Jan 16, 2025, 9:07 PM
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Dabo got this. Don't need orange classes to see that.
You dig?
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You're quacking all right but like most of you, don't address the post's points.***
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You made up quotes that no one has ever stated to make a bad post,
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and worse point.
3 quacks for you.
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Huh?
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I know you're trying desperately hard to make some snarky posts, but, no, fail.
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You made up quotes in your OP to boo hoo and quack.
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Straight up. And you don't like getting called out for it. Tough.
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Well - you did use quotation marks saying
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people posted "Dabo is infallible". Show us a link with those exact words or you did make it up. I saw plenty of posts defending Dabo's actions and inactions but never saw one using the word "infallible".
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Re: Well - you did use quotation marks saying
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Ditto for “…prove his brilliance”.
Exaggeration and sensationalism for the sake of a narrative.
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Unless someone other than PBT posted
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“Dabo is infallible! How dare anyone question him? These changes just prove his brilliance!" then the quote in the OP is made up. Typically a source is cited when using quotation marks, but not always, so maybe someone did post that exact verbiage. If so, feel free to share it and settle this debate once and for all.
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I can find you many posts that paraphrase just that sentence.
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Don't act brand new.
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Ahh
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But he didn’t paraphrase, he offered a direct quote, which apparently was made up. And making up things undermines an entire argument, especially when there is no need to do it. And if multiple actual quotes exist that are very similar, it’s lazy on his part to not reference them, and dishonest of him to fabricate substitutes.
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I think you miss the point.
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For example, I posted about liking the new DC hire and got attacked non-stop for questioning Dabo's brilliance but NOTHING about how bad the Wes hire was. Makes no sense.
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Re: I think you miss the point.
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Because nobody knows how good or bad a hire is till what happens after happens. Congrats on getting the Wes hire correct by not liking it though.
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/\ what he said /\
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Go Tigers!
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Glad to know you're perfect PBT. I've been impressed with CDS. All In!***
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Nope, there was only one @deadsolidperfect***
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Re: Nope, there was only one @deadsolidperfect***
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Trump is your President 👍
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Re: Glad to know you're perfect PBT. I've been impressed with CDS. All In!***
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This proves PBT’s point. No one expects Dabo to be perfect but some can’t acknowledge when he makes a mistake. Perhaps it’s just old men have a problem with logic and objectivity
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Re: Glad to know you're perfect PBT. I've been impressed with CDS. All In!***
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Simp harder
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Re: Glad to know you're perfect PBT. I've been impressed with CDS. All In!***
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I believe some people on here think they know more about running a football program than Dabo does and that's where the problem is. People acting like Dabo doesn't know what he is doing. I do believe he has made some moves based on his heart and not his head on occasion but that is not always a bad thing. Most thought he was a bad hire at the time and he was hired from within. Now whenever he promotes from within its always a horrible move. We'll guess what. That is how he became head coach.
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Re: Glad to know you're perfect PBT. I've been impressed with CDS. All In!***
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I believe some people on here think they know more about running a football program than Dabo does and that's where the problem is. People acting like Dabo doesn't know what he is doing. I do believe he has made some moves based on his heart and not his head on occasion but that is not always a bad thing. Most thought he was a bad hire at the time and he was hired from within. Now whenever he promotes from within its always a horrible move. We'll guess what. That is how he became head coach.
Here is what we know as fact. Dabo brought us to an elite level in the last 10 years. We were a top 3 program in both results and talent. We know the Covid years were not kind to our program as it is difficult to sell relationships and culture over a zoom call. There was nothing Dabo could do about this issue so fans accepted the result. Then NIL and the portal happened. Every single coach in the P4 adapted to the new normal except Dabo (throw out the service academies as they operate on a different structure). It was a bold move on Dabo's part which failed. He has acknowledged the failure be adapting to both but not before we fell from a top three to a top 20 team both in results and talent. Dabo also went All In on internal hires which we know was a failure because he has replaced three of the choices with elite outside the program coaches.
The thing is, we can still like and respect Dabo appreciating what he has done for the program while admitting he made some high-risk choices which were a mistake.
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This post is spot on
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Well done jstone
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Re: Glad to know you're perfect PBT. I've been impressed with CDS. All In!***
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Yup even he himself admits he isn't perfect. It's just nobody knows if what he does is going to work or not till it happens. It's like play calling. If we call a reverse pass and it scores it's a great call, if we fumble the ball it's why did u go away from what was working and a horrible call. He is in charge of our program and we shouldn't be constantly questioning his decisions.
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Re: You got a problem with old men?
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I resemble that remark (old) ..
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Re: You got a problem with old men?
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Yea. We tuck our shirts in and call a lady a lady.
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Re: Glad to know you're perfect PBT. I've been impressed with CDS. All In!***
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I'm proud that he is man enough to admit that he made some mistake hires, but he had to give them a chance to prove him wrong before he fires them. It was from what we saw this season with Goodwin that made us feel like he was dragging the situation and trying to make it fit and we could barely wait for the end of the season...
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Streeter's sole year as OC was DJU's absolute, unquestioned
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best turnaround performance season of his career. Went from family strife dog poop to Heisman contender with us at 8-0. Then DJ'd from there.
DW4's and TL16's best years as ballers, before and since, were under Streeter as QB coach.
You got me on Austin, though. Can't win 'em all.
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Re: Streeter's sole year as OC was DJU's absolute, unquestioned
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Streeter was an exceptional QB coach, but that’s not his point. He was not ready for OC and that was a risk that was not calculated well.
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Re: Streeter's sole year as OC was DJU's absolute, unquestioned
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He had one season at OC in which we started 8-0, ranked in the initial CFP Top 4, won the ACC and played in the Orange Bowl. We regressed on O in Riley's first season after.
In the past Dabo would visit other programs and look to instill some tweaks and attributes to our playcalling and strategies. At that point though it was simply time for an all around overhaul and new direction. I don't have an issue with Dabo making the change like he did but do feel like Streeter gets a very unfair and uninformed rap around here by too many.
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It was pretty obvious to some of us that the Wes hire was not likely to work.***
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Re: It was pretty obvious to some of us that the Wes hire was not likely to work.***
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Slither, Slither, Hiss & Dither
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Re: You're quacking all right but like most of you, don't address the post's points.***
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Do you need someone to validate your concerns? Sounds kind of childish to me, but if it makes you feel better… thank you for raising these issues, because Dabo would not have made these changes otherwise. You are my hero for getting Dabo to move along with the times. Again, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
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Re: You're quacking all right but like most of you, don't address the post's points.***
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😂😂😂
Good job, Pig® for providing the only acceptable response. I would respond but I am one of the 66 on his ignore list.
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Re: You're quacking all right but like most of you, don't address the post's points.***
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I probably will be too after my poast.
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I can see the virtue signal from here***
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Huh? Makes absolutely no sense.***
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Re: Huh? Makes absolutely no sense.***
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Like most of your takes?
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How so? My take about Wes, for example?***
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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I don't think dabo made adjustments based on ur critiques.
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Not, ours per-say. But critiques none the less.***
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Re: Not, ours per-say. But critiques none the less.***
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Pretty sure he is doing it because he needs to and it's what he thinks is right. Not because of what others say. You can keep believing yall influence him if u want though.
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Losing to SCar is as critique as it gets.
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Gotten many a head coach fired over the years.
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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I think most of us saw what is happening as inevitable and always believed he would adapt.
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Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems you're wanting folks...
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...to admit the "constructive criticism" from tnet posters led to these adjustments. I don't think anyone believes that. I think it's simply that Dabo realized what needed to change (slower than some tnet posters demanded), made those changes, and now we're going to see where it takes us.
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Re: Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems you're wanting folks...
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It's not about taking credit for the changes—it’s about recognizing the validity of the critiques many of us had for years. Dabo ultimately made the decisions, but those changes align almost perfectly with the issues critics pointed out: non-use of the portal, poor hires, and roster mismanagement.
Nobody is claiming tnet posters forced Dabo’s hand, but it’s disingenuous to ignore that many of these adjustments reflect what critics were saying all along. It’s fair to say, “Hey, those criticisms weren’t baseless.” Instead, what we’re seeing is a refusal to acknowledge those critiques as valid, with some doubling down on the narrative that Dabo was right all along.
This isn’t about “taking credit”; it’s about intellectual honesty. If the changes are good now, doesn’t that mean the issues critics raised before were legitimate? Ignoring that feels like cherry-picking the narrative.
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The critiques were indeed valid, I just think that most...
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...folks (myself included) didn't want to wade into the vitriol (some of the back and forth was extreme) and trusted Dabo to eventually do what had to be done. And he is doing so.
But I understand your take on it.
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I get you.
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What gets lost here is that we are all (mostly) huge Clemson fans. We simply process things differently. But my God, can I post that I like the DC hire without getting attacked?
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That we can agree on. No worries.***
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Re: I get you.
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Certainly you can, but remember that people have long memories. I mostly just try to ignore poasts that are not positive. I guess it’s all how you look at it.
Keep on poasting…
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They will just accuse you of being disingenuous.
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You’re faking positivity to throw them off or use it to troll later.
These people actually believe the crap they say.
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Re: I get you.
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Trump is your President
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Re: Whats hilarious is that many of the homers are trying to claim they were right.
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Re: Whats hilarious is that many of the homers are trying to claim they were right.
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Re: Whats hilarious is that many of the homers are trying to claim they were right.
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That statement isn’t wrong. It’s just another way of acknowledging that there are issues and believing that Dabo will do what’s best for the team. Which is what y’all seem to think he is doing right now. When you said you had concerns that Dabo was too complacent, arrogant or stubborn to ever adapt you were wrong. We all expressed concerns. It’s just that some of us didn’t make it sound like we knew what needed to be done better than Dabo did.
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Re: Whats hilarious is that many of the homers are trying to claim they were right.
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Exactly. Dabo is not going to make changes on a whim. He will make changes at the appropriate times.
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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I’ve been critical of several things about decisions made in the past and I won’t hide from that. I just finished watching the press conference with Coach Allen and Dabo and while Dabo didn’t specifically call out individual decisions, I felt he was pretty open about not everything he did working and needing to fix those things.
I see the old Humble Dabo starting to re-emerge and it is good to see. I don’t need a mea culpa about the past as long as things change for the better going forward and I feel pretty good about that being the path we are on.
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Ring of Honor [22631]
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Exactly. So why attack us for questioning the Wes hire to begin with?***
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Re: Exactly. So why attack us for questioning the Wes hire to begin with?***
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The way some people choose to express disagreement has a lot to do with it. You tend to get back what you put out there. Tone and context still matter. If you put out an angry or emotional response, that is generally what you get back.
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Ring of Honor [22631]
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Nah, man. I posted a genuinely positive post about Coach Allen.
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Pumpers didn't like it. Yet, complain about non-glowing (negative) posts.
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Re: Nah, man. I posted a genuinely positive post about Coach Allen.
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You have a body of work that isn’t always so flattering which creates how people may feel about you and then they don’t give you the benefit of the doubt when you actually try and be less or non-confrontational.
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Re: Nah, man. I posted a genuinely positive post about Coach Allen.
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C’mon. We all know someone can’t be judged on their body of work, just what they have done for us lately. Just like how some judge Dabo. If the last post was perfect, that’s all we need to remember. 😜
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Even when those who criticized Dabo's previous decisions—like avoiding the portal, making questionable hires, neglecting player development, and managing the roster poorly—applauded the recent changes, the response is baffling.
Instead of acknowledging, "You guys had valid points, and Dabo has made great adjustments based on those critiques," some posters insist, "Dabo is infallible! How dare anyone question him? These changes just prove his brilliance!"
It's a frustrating example of cognitive dissonance at its finest. Rather than engaging with the reality of constructive criticism leading to improvement, they double down on blind hero worship.
What does it matter?
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It doesn't. But what does?***
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Tiger Spirit [9422]
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Define "it". Sounds like Clinton, "define THE".***
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Ring of Honor [22631]
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Give the politics a rest, man.***
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CU Guru [1522]
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He's gotcha there..
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"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is'
is. If the-if he-if 'is' means....". Curiously similar phrasing both rhetorical and hollow.
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Youve said this over and over in this thread.
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You’re like an obsessed school girl, is he all you think about 24/7?
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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The criticisms are very strange indeed.
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110%er [3853]
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Goodness.
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You actually believe you know more about coaching football than Dabo Swinney, and what's more, you actually believe that Dabo Swinney agrees with you.
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National Champion [7789]
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Some people can't help but to be miserable OLD ###### on message boards.
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You are probably top 3 now. Congrats?!
Dabo acknowledged his failure and rectified them. You, and your fellow clowns can continue to be upset cuz your low hangin ballz are getting pinched with each step taken.(allegedly)
A wiser man would simply be at peace and look forward to a positive change incoming to Clemson Football. But well that don't seem to fit your style.
GO TIGERS!!! LEAD ON DABO!!!!
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110%er [3790]
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^^ this
Jan 17, 2025, 3:57 PM
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Some guys can’t go a day without b!tching and moaning. Weird.
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Re: ^^ this
Jan 17, 2025, 5:07 PM
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Some people simply lack character.
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Thinking Dabo made changes because of criticism for posters on a message boards seems silly.
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When did he suggest that Dabo made changes because of a message board?***
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Re: When did he suggest that Dabo made changes because of a message board?***
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Slither, Slither, Hiss & Dither
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Top TigerNet [28702]
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Quote from the OP
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“Instead of acknowledging, "You guys had valid points, and Dabo has made great adjustments based on those critiques," ”
Not a suggestion. A definitive statement that the adjustments were “based on those critiques”
I know, facts don’t matter when you want to express your narrative.
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Everyone who has ever been in leadership has made mistakes. Dabo admitted that hiring Wes was a mistake. A great leader acknowledges his mistakes and makes corrections.
The greatness of Dabo that you fail to see is he still had good teams the last few years.
The last 15 years has been one the greatest runs in the history of CFB. Look at the teams over the last 20 years who were great that have hit bottom. USC, Auburn, Nebraska, Florida just to name a few. Dabo is still winning 10 games a year.
He will get the Tigers back in the top 5 very soon. Appreciate what Dabo has done and is doing for Clemson. He knows what is going on. Give him the benefit of the doubt when things seem to be heading in the wrong direction.
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Orange Phenom [14865]
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Yep, even our greatest war heroes throughout history made mistakes, used poor judgement, etc. at times but in the end came out victorious.
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Tiger Titan [48211]
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The problem is that many people here cant acknowledge Dabos mistakes.
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They always say that he was a victim somehow, never admitting that he himself messed up.
It’s a really unhealthy form of idolatry. It goes way beyond admiration.
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: The problem is that many people here cant acknowledge Dabos mistakes.
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Slither, Slither, Hiss & Dither
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Legend [6879]
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Who you trying to impress with that Harris word salad.
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110%er [3853]
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This:
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"Rather than engaging with the reality of constructive criticism leading to improvement ..."
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110%er [3853]
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Education is good.
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Jan 16, 2025, 9:46 PM
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And bad writing is bad writing.
Sorry.
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Ring of Honor [22631]
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Bad writing is bad writing, huh?
Jan 18, 2025, 9:05 PM
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So, do you apply this criticism to everyone or those you disagree with?
Because you and I both know which you can find more "bad writing" if we are being honest with each other.
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CU Guru [1522]
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The election still stings huh..don't fret..
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President Trump will get your mind right...one way or another. Hail to the Chief!
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Legend [6879]
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Re: Huh?
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Will Rogers once said, "There is nothing so stupid as an educated man, if you get him off the thing he was educated in".
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Paw Master [16748]
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Pretty sure Tnet criticism had absolutely no bearing on Dabo's decision
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to get rid of Wes. Also, I'm 110% sure that 90% of the posters saw the same issues you did AND so did Dabo.
It's when some posters act like they have this great insight as to what is ailing the football team (when EVERYONE can see the obvious problems) and continue to post the same thing repeatedly that people get a bit put off.
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Ring of Honor [22631]
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Missing the point.***
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Re: Missing the point.***
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No. He’s nailing the point you refuse to acknowledge. You have poor emotional control and like talking ####. In your opening post you manage to pat yourself on the back while litigating the same garbage and throwing shade at everyone who didn’t join your chorus. Stop working so hard to prove how valueless advanced degrees are.
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Re: Missing the point.***
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I’m not convinced this individual actually had any degree. I don’t know anyone with north of a GED that carries themselves like such a ########.
Problem here is that no Clemson fan expends energy trolling and antagonizing their own fan base, and no Clemson Man would ever act like such an arrogant, self absorbed, braggadocios, prick.
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CU Guru [1522]
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Yes, there is a tone of misplaced hostility..
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and without any acknowledgement that the staff improvements & TP additions have taken place after the fact-
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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I would have to say the same thing, but I chose not to. Only because most of these pumpers have no comprehensive or reading skills and that's easy to see based on the ridiculous and illiterate responses to this post... They basically are just rah rah boys...
No critical thinking skills and are complete morons! They are more like the unrealistic coot fans I know...
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Wow… I just learned something about myself. Thanks for pointing out the obvious to me.
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Game Changer [1857]
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Better orange colored glasses than the dirty diaper that makes you cry baby cry!!!
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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I hear what you are saying Pacific, but regardless of what you, me, or anybody else thinks about the past 3 years of how our FB program has gone, for the good or the bad, Dabo is the only one that can take full responsibility for that bc he is the only one that made the decisions that set the FB program back for the past several years, just as he is the only one that made the decisions to correct the problems that he alone made and caused. Personally, I think that it's admiral of him to admit that he made those mistakes, and he has been attempting to correct those mistakes. I don't think that he would have fired Streeter and Wes and brought in Garret Riley and Tom Allen if he didn't believe he made those mistakes with both those two hires. To me that says an awful lot about Dabo's character when he knows that he made a mistake and does something about correcting them, and this is just one of the things that Tiger nation loves so much about Dabo Swinney, he isn't afraid of making a mistake, and he isn't afraid of correcting his mistakes!!! IMO, our FB program is in really good hands with Dabo as our Head Coach!!!
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Well said. I doubt Dabo makes any hire knowing that it won’t work, but we all make mistakes. It takes a humble and smart man to admit those mistakes and correct them.
Wow… I guess I am a “pumper”.
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Oh yeah. If you weren’t loudly and negatively critical of the major implosion our football team has experienced over the last 4 years, you’re an idiotic pumper who idolizes Dabo above all else.
Welcome to the club, my friend.
Pig®
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Hahahaha!!! Thanks
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No, we believe he did the best he could with what he had to work with.
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Wes and Brandon were place holders who did us a favor by filling in the huge gaps BV, TE and JS left.
Dabo's top priority is the players. He is the one of the few coaches I would trust to continue my son's raising. He maintains a high moral, legal and ethical standard.
If that isn't enough for you then that's why we see differently. You don't care about anything but winning. Sometimes it's impossible to hold to that type standard and without sacrifice.
You'd make that sacrifice for your children but others can kiss your asz if they hold that standard for theirs. Not everyone fits at Clemson and most of the portal players just aren't fits in moral, legal and ethical standards. You can remove most of them from Dabo's list because they already know where they are going when the enter the portal.
Dabo won't tolerate rules breakers. That's why 10 people make themselves available to replace Wes and Dabo turned them all away and chose Tom.
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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No it’s really you are just a spoiled individual who thinks He knows more than anyone else and refuses to acknowledge when someone has done an incredible job!
Clemson was mediocre at best before Dabo and Dabo made them the best!
When you do that you build up a lot of goodwill!
But all you do is see negative!!
Your take is tired!
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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I feel you. I’m with you. However, the ability to start to change to catch up to times does give everyone hope. The nepotism hires still happened. The portal use is still leaving us at a net loss. But, it’s a good start. He can’t jump all in without sacrificing all his values. I understand why he held to his principles. But we paid a price for it. Only time will tell if this closed the gap that was widening.
I haven’t ever said he was Infallible. In fact, you and I usually agree on the issues. We catch crap for it at times. Being a realist can cause that to happen. It’s doesn’t make us less a fan that the pumpers.
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Thanks Jedi. I am wrong a lot too. The personal attacks and agendas I don't like***
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Orange Beast [6524]
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What is that saying?
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“Those who tell you the truth genuinely care about you; those who only tell you what you want to hear are looking out for themselves.”
Honest criticism and support go hand in hand—they’re not opposites. I value honesty from those closest to me because it shows they truly want what’s best for me. If someone struggles to handle constructive feedback, it’s a sign they might need to focus on personal growth and resilience. Accepting criticism is essential for improvement.
When it comes to critiques of Dabo, you’d think some people believe he’s being personally attacked. The reality is, except for the occasional wayward chicken on this board, we all want Clemson to succeed. And let’s not underestimate the influence fans can have. This board reflects the collective voice of Clemson fans everywhere, and whether people realize it or not, that influence matters. Honest feedback comes from a place of passion and wanting the best for the program.
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Misery must need a buddy
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Absolute buffoonery 👈your "hot takes." 👍
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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The only cognitive dissonance that I see here is y’all’s inability to recognize that most of us discuss the issues in these boards but we just stop short of trying to tell the coach how he should fix the them because we aren’t trying to prove that we are smarter or better equipped to do his job than he is.
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Oh, yea! Another 'Whine' thread...
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T-Net is not especially a good place for emotional support. Pretty sure this vintage will be vinegar, too. And it should be
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Come on, folks... Lordy. He put the stinkiest, sloppiest piece of catfish bait on a line weighed down with an anvil and threw that joker right out there and y'all raced to bite that big 'ole hook.
Step back... after 36 years with my wife, I GOT THIS!!!
* drains all expressions off my face *
* blank stare *
Yes, dear....
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OPs life must be non - existent
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Yikes.
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PCB's Posts Are Becoming More Erudite And Soapboxxy
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You just set your opinion whereby you...
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can criticize Dabo no matter what he does. Once he was criticized for being too involved in things which required X's and O comprehension. Now you're claiming he is backing off that.
In your world Dabo is dammmmed if he does and dammmed if he don't.
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Paw Master [16100]
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Excellent post. Just provide a link to posters saying that Dabo is infallible
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Jan 17, 2025, 3:47 PM
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PBT - You're obviously a smart person. Do you not see the irony here?
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Ring of Honor [22631]
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Being smart is objective. I try not to think in those terms.
Jan 18, 2025, 9:11 PM
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But if I do not see something, please politely point it out. I would be forever grateful if I am being ironic, but I can't see it.
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Orange Immortal [60958]
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
Jan 17, 2025, 6:22 PM
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Like he said in his presser of the Tom Allen hire he said himself that he made mistakes with some hires and that he was trying to fix it and he probably is fixing it. But he did admit that he broke it...
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Jan 17, 2025, 7:50 PM
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Some people enjoy being sheep. It's always been that way and always will be.
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Game Day Hero [4477]
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Jan 18, 2025, 12:01 PM
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Weird how this thread is still around but the "opposite" thread got sent to Quarantine. They are the same thread but on opposite sides. Its just one side of the aisle attacking the other.
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Although it may not seem like it,
Jan 18, 2025, 12:10 PM
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the purpose of the OP was to “just talk Clemson football.”
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Paw Master [16333]
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Re: The orange-glasses squad is in full attack mode lately. Strange.
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Jan 19, 2025, 9:58 AM
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It seems doubtful Dabo made adjustments based on fan critiques.
I am proud to be a member of the orange-glasses squad. Most people simply call folks like me fans.
Go Tigers!!
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