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Re: This is good news
May 16, 2024, 11:53 AM
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Where are they with oil and coal subsidies?
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Why? Cheap, abundant energy helps everyone.***
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May 16, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [35477]
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Tom says energy subsidies are bad.***
May 16, 2024, 12:12 PM
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I didnt say it was perfect. All subsidies are bad. But these are less bad than
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May 16, 2024, 1:06 PM
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The “green” BS
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Why are oil subsidies not as bad as heat pump and insulation subsidies?***
May 16, 2024, 1:17 PM
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First of all, the oil subsidies probably arent subsidies, they are probably tax
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May 16, 2024, 1:51 PM
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Breaks. Either way, if you have any understanding of the modern economy at all, it is patently obvious why lessening the cost of oil is better.
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Re: First of all, the oil subsidies probably arent subsidies, they are probably tax
May 16, 2024, 3:23 PM
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Neither of those sentences explains anything, but the effort was pretty good.
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Tax breaks (finite program) are not close to subsidies (theoretically infinite)
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May 18, 2024, 5:03 PM
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Actually, Tom explained it very well.
Subsidies are not taxes. Subsidies are moneys provided by an entity (in the case of The Netherlands, government money via taxation of Dutch citizens) to make some product or service artificially cheap.
Tax breaks are allowances which the government grants to an entity in which the seizure of funds (I.e. taxes) is less than that which is applied to another entity.
Tax breaks for an entity are limited to the total amount of taxes which the government would otherwise extract from the entity.
Thus, tax breaks are finite.
Subsidies, on the other hand, are essentially unlimited, with the only limit being the amount of money that the government has + the amount of money that a government can borrow to keep the subsidized entity viable.
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Too bad we passed the Green New Deal. They will invade us in a few years.***
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The Dutch will invade us? How? Bomb us withTulips?
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May 16, 2024, 1:31 PM
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What is with you that you are are afraid that literally everyone is "invading" us?
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What Will Greta Do?***
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Re: What Will Greta Do?***
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The Swedish climate activist once decried nuclear energy as being “extremely dangerous, expensive, and time-consuming.” Her views seem to have changed in tandem with recent trends in public opinion as she recently argued that Germany shutting down its nuclear plants was a “mistake.” Thunberg, alongside other climate ...Apr 3, 2023
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Re: This is good news
May 18, 2024, 5:08 PM
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As a country they get half of their energy from renewable energy. The issue is probably very nuanced. They aren't scrapping renewble energy.
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