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Orange Blooded [4470]
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We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
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Nov 29, 2023, 3:54 PM
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immediately take us up. Are they waiting on a bigger offer. NC seem to get there QB in a hurry.
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Re: We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
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Nov 29, 2023, 3:55 PM
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$$$$$
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Orange Blooded [3730]
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Player Payroll has a positive correlation of 1 to CFP ranking
Nov 30, 2023, 7:54 AM
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Top 5 will be about $25M-$30M per year.
Clemson would need to find that kind of cash in this NIL/TP world.
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Re: We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
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Nov 29, 2023, 3:57 PM
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I can only speculate that UNC has known Maye would be leaving and have probably had those third party guys sniffing around for a QB. To your point, it happened fast which usually means someone has been talking ahead of time, kind of like Hartman to ND.
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Would you want to play for a coach who has gone out of his way
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Nov 29, 2023, 3:57 PM
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to criticize the transfer portal?
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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clearing the perception is just another obstacle Dabo has to deal with.......
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Nov 29, 2023, 4:01 PM
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if or when he utilizes the portal in a impactful way.
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Re: clearing the perception is just another obstacle Dabo has to deal with.......
Nov 29, 2023, 4:27 PM
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Troll
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Re: That perception is a made-up one propogated...
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Nov 29, 2023, 11:48 PM
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Brett, altho I really don’t understand why a fan of another team spends so much time on our boards, you are respectful and offer good insight and are not just here to bash Clemson, which is rare. Thank you for that.
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Re: That perception is a made-up one propogated...
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Nov 30, 2023, 12:33 AM
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And yet he still seems to be more of a fan than a large portion of Tigernet, lol. Agreed that he is very respectful and insightful.
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That is absolutely a false narrative
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Nov 29, 2023, 4:05 PM
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While Dabo thinks both the portal and NIL should be regulated, what he has actually said is that Clemson has recruited well, so he's been able to develop players for a long time and have a lot of retention. Consequently, he hasn't really needed to relay on the portal to a great degree.
The majority of the criticism comes from others who doesn't think Dabo uses the portal enough.
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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that's where the PERCEPTION comes in.......right, wrong, or indifferent.......
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Nov 29, 2023, 4:14 PM
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there have been a number of Clemson games on TV where the announcer have pointed out that Clemson doesn't use the portal.
again, PERCEPTION.........whether we know it or not, it makes no difference.
and yes I'd say he needed the portal to some degree the last 2-3 years to shore up some untalented position groups............he just hasn't done it.
on the retention thing.......we've lost 8-9 each year the last 5 years to the portal...........10-11 the last 2 years, that's roughly 1/3 of a recruiting class each year that he's replaced with either walk-ons or freshman next class.
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110%er [7521]
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Almost all have been guys that have graduated
Nov 29, 2023, 4:25 PM
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Mayes for example shouldn’t even have another year. Just the NCAA bs Covid rules allow for it. Don’t blame him for taking advantage of it, but should have never been the case. Hope he’s choosing next school on grad studies as much as PT
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Re: that's where the PERCEPTION comes in.......right, wrong, or indifferent.......
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The only players we have lost to the portal are players that were not playing!
The ones leaving this year understand they are not going to play next year.
But players are leaving every team and money has a lot to do with it!
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Re: that's where the PERCEPTION comes in.......right, wrong, or indifferent.......
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Nov 29, 2023, 4:38 PM
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Exactly… no one can complain with who has transferred out. It’s understood they were not going to get PT at Clemson.
Now Bell and can’t think of the other offensive player last season were both either starters or were going to be. I would hate for that to happen here. I believe then we may have some internal issues.
In comparing this to basketball it’s no comparison. Recruiting bball is totally different. Heck you can leave high school and go right into the league. Others want to play one season see if they can win it all and bale. There is not much development going on anymore seeing everyone wants to play today.
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that's where y'all get lost in the woods....you look at it from the perspective
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of the "caliber" of who we lost. That's not the issue.
Clemson has lost 8-9 players EVERY YEAR for the last 5 years (on average)........the last 2 years we've lost 10-11. That's MINIMUM ONE THIRD of a recruiting class of kids that "fit the clemson culture" that for whatever reason decided to go........so......after they leave Dabo has choices:
1. Fill that voided scholarship with a Walk-on........ie talent drop off
2. Fill that voided scholarship with a freshman in the NEXT class.....ie we'll be forever young
3. Fill that voided scholarship with a portal player that would be a TALENT UPGRADE from what we have already starting........it's the same dang concept of High School recruiting.......you try to out recruit what you have.
Dabo has chosen #s 1 and 2 so far.......hence why we've seen our drop off the last 3-4 years.
you're entitled to your own wrong opinion.
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Re: that's where y'all get lost in the woods....you look at it from the perspective
Nov 29, 2023, 6:39 PM
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Do you have this in a quick text, yet? It only took me 3 times to get it. Hope you don't exhaust yourself again.
Good looking out, Pheebo.
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yeah you're lost in the woods too.......it goes right over your head.***
Nov 29, 2023, 8:20 PM
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Re: yeah you're lost in the woods too.......it goes right over your head.***
Nov 30, 2023, 2:10 PM
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tell us who in the portal we could have or should have gotten? I'm not against the portal Tell us who we should have gotten??. Dabo will use it because it isn't going anywhere. Dabo knows what he is doing. It will all play out. Go Tigers!!
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Re: That is absolutely a false narrative
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Beyond being a false narrative, why would a player GAF what Dabo has previously said about the portal? It’s an about playing opportunity and NIL money. Just a stupid comment.
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Re: Would you want to play for a coach who has gone out of his way
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I wouldn't care. If a perennial top program reached out with an offer, I'd listen. Especially if said program has opportunity at the position I play. So yeah, if I'm a WR, OL, Edge or LB, I'm coming if that is the best opportunity for me to play and get some NIL money.
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Re: Would you want to play for a coach who has gone out of his way
Nov 29, 2023, 7:01 PM
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Brownsmell better enjoy his time now because it will be 13 more years before he puts the pieces together to have maybe a decent team … after all he did lead them to a resounding DEFEAT in the Not In the Tournament. How many players want to play for him? Guess someone will know in 13 more years!!!
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Someone must not be paying attention...
Nov 30, 2023, 12:18 AM
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Who wants to play for Brownell? Joe Girard, the leading scorer in the ACC last year, wants to play for Brownell. Jack Clark and Jake Heidbreder also wanted to play for him. That's why they all transferred in. Dallas Thomas, Del Jones, and Ace Buckner also want to play for Coach Brownell. They make up the #20 overall recruiting class in the country. Are you aware that Clemson beat #23 Alabama on the road by 8 points last night to remain undefeated, equaling their best record thus far since 2008-2009? It's almost like the basketball team is actually doing really well right now, but some of you are so busy bashing them for their past that you fail to even notice.
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Re: Someone must not be paying attention...
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Thanks Judge Jr. How many championships has little brownie won? I ask because your daddy JK uses every opportunity to bash Dabo, who has won 2!!! As long as bubbling, babbling Jk and his minions use every chance to bash the greatest coach Clemson has ever had, I will use every opportunity to point out that the love of his life, little brownie, has done very, very little in his 13 years!!
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Would you want to play for a coach that emphasizes
Nov 30, 2023, 8:28 AM
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the development of the players he recruited? Do you think momma and daddy would like that? Or like the fact he's scouring the transfer portal for players to replace them?
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Re: We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
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Transfers are just like high school recruits, you get some and miss on some. No school will ever get everyone they want.
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Re: We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
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If you’re talking about the OL, my first thought was Austin. Not a lot to hang your hat on there.
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LOL
Nov 29, 2023, 5:48 PM
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Which players have we offered?
Nov 29, 2023, 4:08 PM
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Do you know? Is it 1 or 2 or are you making this narrative up? Hmm...
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Re: We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
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Nov 29, 2023, 4:36 PM
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Probably waiting to see who the highest bidder is?
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Re: We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
Nov 29, 2023, 5:25 PM
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It's almost like some schools tamper and have a player paid before he enters the portal...
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ALMOST? There's nothing "almost" about it!!***
Nov 30, 2023, 7:37 AM
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Re: We seem to offer some transfers but they dont
Nov 29, 2023, 5:28 PM
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Prime Time says hello.
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