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Redshirt [-96]
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We gotta get out of the ACC
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:00 PM
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Aside from a couple teams it’s getting worse by the year Gents.
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Game Changer [2022]
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Why do need to leave? They're the ones who suck***
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:09 PM
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Game Changer [2005]
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Re: Why do need to leave? They're the ones who suck***
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:14 PM
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Because it can be used against Clemson in the future just like it was used against FSU.
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Re: ^^^^^^This. A thousand times this.
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Aug 29, 2025, 9:21 AM
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Redshirt [-96]
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All-In [10867]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:16 PM
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Why complain about an easier road to the playoffs every year?
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:20 PM
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Valid point. It hurts more than it helps as far as in season development.
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Game Changer [2022]
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4 national championship appearances would disagree***
Aug 28, 2025, 11:37 PM
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: 4 national championship appearances would disagree***
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Aug 28, 2025, 11:55 PM
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I’m speaking within the last few years of Clemson teams that actually need substantial growth. Those earlier teams were so dominant so I can’t compare the two situations.
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Head Coach [983]
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Re: 4 national championship appearances would disagree***
Sep 6, 2025, 12:06 AM
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that was before we added more bum teams on the west coast like stanford and cal. We don't even play GT/NCST every year anymore...
Also before the SEC/BIG10 turned into super leagues and had an extra 15-20 million a year from TV money to spend on paying players. The PAC12/Big 12 are dead/vastly different now than when we were winning titles.
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Sep 5, 2025, 9:58 PM
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It didn’t seem to hurt those 6 years in a row we made the 4 team playoff.
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC--here's why
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:52 PM
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New rules for 2025. The NCAA has made a team's strength of schedule count more toward rankings.
1. Emphasis on quality wins against strong opponents will significantly boost a team's ranking.
2. Losses against quality teams won't count as much as losses against weaker teams.
3. Wins against lesser teams provide minimal reward; losses carry a heavy penalty.
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Rival Killer [2947]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC--here's why
Aug 29, 2025, 9:14 AM
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Don't you think with the SEC being so highly overrated, they will use this to boost SEC teams. You know, quality wins and losses, it just means more.
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Letterman [191]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC--here's why
Aug 31, 2025, 12:50 AM
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That comment didn't age well. Lost to LSU and FSU beat up Alabama.
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Freshman [5]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC--here's why
Sep 2, 2025, 10:24 AM
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SEC overrated? We are 3-8 against them lately. We have to get better quick. Beamer appears to be getting U of SC stronger every year. This downturn (not that TB was ever up) reminds me of the us vs Spurrier stretch.
Three straight opening game losses with an average of 6.7 points per game is ridiculous. Dabo can't spin this, and no DC can overcome this lack of offense.
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:57 PM
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Clemson will leave the ACC its just a matter of time.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 28, 2025, 10:04 PM
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100%
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Paw Warrior [5045]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 29, 2025, 12:36 AM
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Because we’re paying $20m / year in lost media revenue for that easy road
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110%er [3749]
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the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
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Aug 28, 2025, 9:28 PM
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the ACC has been a safe haven for Clemson football.
Clemson would not do as well overall if they were in the SEC. I think that reality scares a lot of people on this board.
I would rather be playing the best week in and week out, and getting paid for it.
The ACC offers an easy route to the playoffs for Clemson, and all the deniers know that.
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
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Aug 28, 2025, 10:01 PM
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Not necessarily. Yeah the SEC has more teams that are actually decent. But it's top heavy. Kentucky, Auburn, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Florida, Missouri and the Coots don't scare me year after year. I think Clemson would be fine. It would definitely bring excitement back to our regular seasons with more bigger games week in and week out, like with Texas, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Texas A&M. UGA would be a routine rivalry again too! Did I mention the financial aspect as well? Better tv deal. Ticket sales through the roof. Revenue for the town would be great too since most SEC fanbases travel very well.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
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Aug 28, 2025, 10:03 PM
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Have you seen ticket prices? Can’t get much worse
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Orange Elite [5552]
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
Aug 28, 2025, 10:51 PM
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People will buy them.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
Aug 28, 2025, 11:11 PM
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For sure
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Rival Killer [2947]
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110%er [3749]
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keep trying there buddy...
Aug 28, 2025, 10:13 PM
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You can say you're scared. I despise usc, but they put their foot up our ### the last 2 years. #### and win against the SEC and then you can talk.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: keep trying there buddy...
Aug 28, 2025, 10:14 PM
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Where you been the last 15 years?
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110%er [3749]
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been here the last 45 years...
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Aug 28, 2025, 10:20 PM
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but keep living in the past. Its not what you did in 1989. Last 2 years we underachieved. So stop with the BS that we can beat all of these SEC teams each week.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: been here the last 45 years...
Aug 28, 2025, 10:22 PM
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1989? That’s odd you went that far back.
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110%er [3749]
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in 1989 we beat USC 45-0
Aug 28, 2025, 10:26 PM
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I know you weren't born yet. Would you rather me go to 1984 or 87 when we gave the games away?
I was watching or listening to all of those.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: in 1989 we beat USC 45-0
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Aug 28, 2025, 10:32 PM
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I wish you were as right about what you are saying as you are passionate about it.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
Aug 28, 2025, 10:03 PM
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You say that almost as if to imply that we wouldn’t have as much post season success as we’ve had. Our dominate teams would dominate the SEC and our Mid teams would be mid.
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Associate AD [1017]
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
Aug 28, 2025, 10:09 PM
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There is a difference getting beat on all season by the heavily talented teams. It will wear upon you. Don't think for a minute that it won't.
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
Aug 28, 2025, 10:13 PM
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Tennessee is a perfect example of a team that’s grown accustomed to getting worn out.
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Associate AD [1017]
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Re: the old timers are scared to get into a real conference...
Aug 29, 2025, 9:52 AM
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Except when we play you in bowl games. Seems easy aster that SEC slate.
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110%er [3749]
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I've been a Clemson fan for longer that most of these goobers
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Aug 28, 2025, 10:16 PM
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have been alive. They are scared to see how Clemson would do year in/ year out in the SEC. I think we would be top 1/3 of the conference, but we would not do as well as we are in the ACC. Lots of Clemson football fans like to hide behind the ACC. Its true
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: I've been a Clemson fan for longer that most of these goobers
Aug 28, 2025, 10:28 PM
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Been a Tiger fan since the late 80s bud. Would we win 6 straight SEC titles or 22 total? Maybe not. But to say we wouldn’t be top 3 year in and out is wild.
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Orange Blooded [2518]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 28, 2025, 10:17 PM
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Idk where the heck we go. I’d like to go somewhere that we don’t get a championship game appearance but once every 3/5/10 years.
The big 12? I mean I don’t think they’re any better. Then we just go to the sec or big10 where we are middle of the road money wise and what does that get us?
I’d rather hope for the North Carolina teams to pull their weight and Miami/fsu to get back to their legitimate forms and we’re just fine.
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Orange Blooded [2552]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
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Aug 29, 2025, 9:09 AM
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We could dream of the pooling of rht e best of the Big12 and the Best of the ACC....
Perhaps this dreaded idea of two super leagues (which would basically be like the AFL and NFL) might be the best thing that could happen to Clemson football.
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Team Captain [457]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 28, 2025, 10:48 PM
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Super League is on its way!
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Redshirt [-96]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 28, 2025, 10:51 PM
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No doubt
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Orange Blooded [2552]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 29, 2025, 9:07 AM
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I don't disagree, but even if the ACC released us at the end of the season where would we go? We don't simply join the SEC or Big10 we have to be invited and there are alot of metrics that say both of those leagues would actually prefer some of the lesser performing ACC schools for reasons that have nothing to do with the strength of our football program. Regionally we are best suited for the SEC, but with two SEC schools close to Clemson and one that would scream bloody murder to keep us out we don't offer much in terms of increased viewing market and those two things will probably be a deal breaker for them. The Big has one standard for their member schools and that is being an invited member of the Association of American Universities (AAU). That is a deal breaker for them that has nothing to do with football.
My take is that we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If the two most desirable conferences don't want us for their own reasons then what?
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 29, 2025, 9:15 AM
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We will be invited along with a couple of other ACC teams.
Ask Texas A&M how screaming bloody murder about your rival coming into the league works. SC can't stop anything. They will be told to shut up or leave just like Texas A&M was told. Besides the coots would be smart to want our game with them to count as their 9th conference game now so they can schedule another non con gimme.
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Top TigerNet [32033]
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Watch Dabo's interview.
Aug 29, 2025, 9:12 AM
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It's posted on this website somewhere. In it he says, as he has been saying, that it's all gonna change in a few years.
We just have to ride through the next couple of years as we transition from here to (in Dabo's words) "a 30 to 50 team" SuperLeague.
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Freshman [3]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 29, 2025, 9:25 AM
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You'd get humbled real quick. I don't think the fan base could handle it.
But props to you for posting the first logical thing I've seen on this site.
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Aug 29, 2025, 10:16 AM
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🤣
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Just keep winning it.***
Aug 29, 2025, 10:16 AM
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Solid Orange [1368]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Sep 2, 2025, 12:55 PM
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Leave the ACC for what the SEC. Then the record would be 6-6 maybe.
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Offensive Star [321]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
Sep 2, 2025, 1:00 PM
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And go where? We haven't exactly done anything lately to show we could compete in the SEC or BIG. I don't want to see Saturday week after week.
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Athletic Dir [1107]
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Re: We gotta get out of the ACC
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Sep 2, 2025, 1:01 PM
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The TV executives mediated the lawsuit between Clemson/FSU and the ACC.
The TV executives determined that Clemson/FSU and other$ will leave the ACC in 2031.
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