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DW4 Travesty if he ends up 3rd in Heisman.
Dec 9, 2015, 8:54 AM
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Travesty is because he will finish third, but:
#1 - No way Christian McCaffrey is more deserving than DW4.
#2 - This is representative of "early" voting by Heisman voters.
#3 - He is best player on the #1 and the only undefeated team in the nation
#4 - Henry benefited from the mouthpiece hype of ESPN
The odds below show a travesty occurring.
From CBSSports.com
While most anticipated there would be six or seven players on the list to go to New York, only Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey and Deshaun Watson got the call. Bovada has released its final batch of Heisman Trophy odds ahead of Saturday's ceremony, and Henry is the overwhelming favorite.
Current odds:
Derrick Henry: 1-12
Christian McCaffrey: 6-1
Deshaun Watson: 22-1
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25406287/derrick-henry-is-the-heavy-favorite-in-final-heisman-trophy-odds
I hope someone gets the voting results. I am curious to compare votes of coaches and players to votes by media. I expect the "media" to have voted by hype vs knowledge. It is just too easy to go by hype and what was "reported/propoagandized" by espn.
Here is a now defunct site that compiled a list of Heisman voters:
http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com/heismanvoters/
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Legend [19210]
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We all feel the same but we also know that DW4 said numerous
Dec 9, 2015, 8:58 AM
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times it was about the team and winning. They could have left him in to pad his stats in many of the other games but we put others in to help our team.
So, we all know DW4 is worthy but we also know the media has pushed their darlings who have gotten more chances to put up yards and stats.
I just hope DW4 will be back in NYC 2016 if he does not win on Saturday.
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CU Guru [1813]
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Relax
Dec 9, 2015, 9:06 AM
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1. It's so subjective there is no way to predict the outcome.
2. To other fans, their candidates are just as deserving. It will really come down to how fair minded each voter is, and what he's looking to say with his ballot.
3. It's a huge step, albeit one we've anticipated for a couple years now, and an honor to be in the top three - especially with another year to play, under a brighter spotlight for the entire season.
4. DW might be more focused (on proving them wrong) if he come up short in the vote. History shows that over and over.
All that being said, I hope he wins.
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110%er [8891]
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True Heisman Curse
Dec 9, 2015, 9:11 AM
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Last 15 winners of the Heisman winners that went on to play in the National Championship game went 4-7
2000 Chris Weinke #2 Florida State Seminoles 2001 Orange Bowl (National Championship Game) #1 Oklahoma Sooners L, 2-13
2001 Eric Crouch #2 Nebraska Cornhuskers 2002 Rose Bowl (National Championship Game) #1 Miami Hurricanes L, 14-37
2002 Carson Palmer #5 USC Trojans 2003 Orange Bowl #3 Iowa Hawkeyes W, 38-17
2003 Jason White #1 Oklahoma Sooners 2004 Sugar Bowl (National Championship Game) #2 LSU Tigers L, 14-21
2004 Matt Leinart #1 USC Trojans 2005 Orange Bowl (National Championship Game) #2 Oklahoma Sooners W‡, 55-19
2005 Reggie Bush #1 USC Trojans 2006 Rose Bowl (National Championship Game) #2 Texas Longhorns L, 38-41
2006 Troy Smith #1 Ohio State Buckeyes 2007 BCS National Championship Game #2 Florida Gators L, 14-41
2007 Tim Tebow #9 Florida Gators 2008 Capital One Bowl Michigan Wolverines L, 35-41
2008 Sam Bradford #1 Oklahoma Sooners 2009 BCS National Championship Game #2 Florida Gators L, 14-24
2009 Mark Ingram #1 Alabama Crimson Tide 2010 BCS National Championship Game #2 Texas Longhorns W, 37-21
2010 Cam Newton #1 Auburn Tigers 2011 BCS National Championship Game #2 Oregon Ducks W, 22-19
2011 Robert Griffin III #12 Baylor Bears 2011 Alamo Bowl Washington Huskies W, 67-56
2012 Johnny Manziel #10 Texas A&M Aggies 2013 Cotton Bowl Classic #12 Oklahoma Sooners W, 41-13
2013 Jameis Winston #1 Florida State Seminoles 2014 BCS National Championship Game #2 Auburn Tigers W, 34-31
2014 Marcus Mariota #2 Oregon Ducks 2015 College Football Playoff National Championship #4 Ohio State Buckeyes L, 42-20
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Re: True Heisman Curse
Dec 9, 2015, 9:17 AM
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Yes, but 2 out of the last 3 have won it!
#ALLIN #DW4HEISMAN #TIGERS
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Oculus Spirit [83161]
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All three are very deserving so no travesty no matter
Dec 9, 2015, 9:42 AM
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who wins. The same can be said for Oklahoma's QB who has 35 TDs and only 5 interceptions, Wow.
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