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TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Game Changer [1769]
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 9:56 AM
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Maybe Betty can re-open her Lounge here.
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Game Changer [2040]
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Ol reliable Bettys. Pool and bear all the time.
Jun 21, 2024, 7:50 PM
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Was our late night spot on occasion. Great little spot, until someone got shot up there and it was shut down.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:02 AM
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Bidenomics claims another one.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:38 AM
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This is the meaning of elections having consequences. There have been several family owned restaurants that have had to close instead of passing on the costs to their customers because of bidennomics. Places are unable to afford the cost of supplies, it’s a shame.
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Solid Orange [1392]
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I've seen the "we couldn't pass the costs on to the customer"...that's dumb.
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Jun 22, 2024, 9:10 AM
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It is a BUSINESS. My guess is that either they were ready to do something different OR let their emotions run their business OR they were afraid to compete.
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Re: I've seen the "we couldn't pass the costs on to the customer"...that's dumb.
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Jun 23, 2024, 2:09 PM
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Look at the timing. 26yrs in business and it closes when our economy is the worst in history. This is CLEARLY due to inflation and operating costs have become financially unreasonable. They competed just fine for almost 3 decades.
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the difference is, once successful small businesses are closing at alarming
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:20 AM
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rates due to all the same reasons: labor and supply cost. Then depending how the individual set up and structured the business they are taxed to death cause "they arent paying their fair share".
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Re: the difference is, once successful small businesses are closing at alarming
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Jun 21, 2024, 1:39 PM
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Hyperinflation due to completely unnecessary stimulus checks started under Trump and was continued by Biden. It happened globally as well, when are you guys going to realize it doesn’t matter what idiot we put In the White House it doesn’t change a d**n thing for the average American. The two parties we have both pit you against the other one so you don’t stop to think for a minute they both could care less about you. The only ones the people in Washington serves are the corporations and lobby groups that fund their campaigns. You want change? Vote for anyone without a D or R next to their name on the ballot
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Re: the difference is, once successful small businesses are closing at alarming
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Jun 21, 2024, 1:42 PM
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Shhh, let him express his inner victim hood.
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Game Changer [2039]
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Re: the difference is, once successful small businesses are closing at alarming
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Jun 21, 2024, 5:11 PM
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Who was in charge of Congress when these unnecessary checks were authorized?
If 45 said no, then what?
lay the blame where it belongs... Congress.
Now on to the last 4 years... killing energy has had a profound impact on everything. If there was no "infusion" this still would have been devastating... we drain the SOR to keep gas prices in check, leave replenishment to the next guy ...
back to football.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 22, 2024, 4:51 PM
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Zero small businesses shut down under Trump.
Because of Dave Portnoy and his campaign to start a charity to keep some alive and trust me THOUSANDS of small businesses closed during and after COVID. Was it Trump's fault? Not gonna go there bc I don't like arguing politics on a sports board but to say zero closed under his watch is just silly or satire. I'm gonna go with the latter and move on. I'm sure most of you don't know Dave Portnoy except from maybe fox news but he saved so many small businesses during that time if anyone should be president that man should take a stab at it bc at least he won't be tied down like most politicians to whoever put them in the seat to begin with and go back on every word they said during campaigning. Remember when Biden said that BS about college debt forgiveness, what a F'n joke. That would help myself and others like me but cost this country so much to what an idiot that man is he needs to go fall off more bikes that way he doesnt speak as much and put his own shoe in his mouth.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 11:39 AM
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21 percent increase in food cost due to Bidenomic's is killing off a lot of restaurants we just lost Holdens Ranch here in Spartanburg they were in business for almost 50 years due to cost increases...Good job to all you dems that voted for this idiot...keep it up we will all be going out of business
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 3:20 PM
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If you have a small business that fails in the state of blood red South Carolina it isn't because of Biden or Dems. Go look in the mirror for that. Did Biden or inflation cause Sonny's 123 to also close back in the day?
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 6:28 PM
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You been to the grocery store lately slick ?
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Orange Blooded [2351]
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 22, 2024, 12:18 AM
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I can sum up this thread as follows….” Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” George Carlin
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 22, 2024, 4:53 PM
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I can sum up this thread as follows….” Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” George Carlin
One of my favorite quotes of all F'n time!
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 3:43 PM
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It's so easy to put the blame of our economy on Joe Biden, but the actual truth is that our economy had already turned North during the last year of Trump's Presidency, and Joe is getting blamed bc he was the next president after Trump's downturn of the economy with the COVID virus closing down the world trade putting the world's economy in trouble when Biden became our next president.
It is a fact that the Joe Biden economy is right now the best economy than anywhere else in the world. So, IMO it isn't fair to blame Joe Biden for what was already happening with price gouging and prices increasing bc of COVID. When Joe became our countries next president covid was already having it's effect on the world's economy, and he is being held accountable bc people feel that somebody is the blame, and Joe inherited the blame bc he became our countries next sitting president. Joe Biden should be appreciated much more than the republicans are giving Joe bc it's the things that Joe has done that has the American economy better off than anywhere else in the world...
Is Joe Biden actually to old to be running for a second term as president, probably so, but it's bc of the people that Joe Biden brought in to help run our country is the reason that our economy is better off than anybody else's in the world, and it was under Trump's presidency and his policies before covid that our countries economy had started to turn north, and it was bc of COVID that the world's economy was badly hurt, and it was Joe Biden's policies that has the American economy ahead of everybody else's economy in the world... The truth is the truth, and the facts are the facts, and the facts are that under Biden's leadership our countries economy is doing better than anyone else's economy in the world....
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 5:08 PM
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Great job on reporting the truth. Some people on here only listen to Fox news and think they never lie. Just glade there is someone reporting the truth. The real problem with Paws was they could not get any help for evening staff which juristically cut out there profit levels because when I would go in the evening Paws was always packed. I hate they are closing but not being able to be open for dinner time is the real reason they are closing.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 5:19 PM
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still thinks conservatives tune in to fox news aka cnn light
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 6:22 PM
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Sleepy Joe inherited a 1.9 % inflation rate and drove it up to over 9%. The price of goods is still going up monthly. He transportation secretary let ships sit in all the major ports and refused to let them dock which helped drive the price of goods up. He shut down the US oil industry on day one of his sham presidency raising the cost of goods. He opened the flood gates at the border letting illegals run rampant. Americans are dying by the hands of illegals. Venezuela, Haiti, China etc are emptying there prisons and insane asylum’s and sending them here. Terrorist organizations are coming and plotting the next 9/11. His own FBI director has been sending warnings about the border and security threats to our country for months. You can whine about a crappy bill that would have allowed over 2 million illegals in per year to someone else I don’t care and agree completely with shutting the bill down. No illegals deserve to come in this country. There’s a process for a reason. If you immigrate legally welcome come on in. My heart only bleeds for Americans and the people who are suffering and dying on a daily basis because an incompetent jack ### is in the White House. He should be in prison, only a moron would thank him for destroying this country. This country and our people can’t take 4 more years of this. No way should people be able to get in the streets and chant death to America and death to Israel. If they do they need to be escorted out sent to Gaza to deal with the terrorist they support.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 7:12 PM
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Well said young man...somo of these idiots on this board only live in the rainbow and fairy dust world of the dems ...your using logic will screw them up big time ...have a good day
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Re: US pumps more oil now with Biden than ever did under trump
Jun 22, 2024, 6:13 PM
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1.9 percent inflation rate 2020 slick dont care about your widdle feelings
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However, wages have declined under Biden and prices have acclerated so
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Jun 22, 2024, 12:38 PM
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Buying power of the dollar has shrunk. Compare this economy with the economy Trump resurrected after the Bush-Obama mess they left for him and before his haters conspired with China to unleash biological warfare in their Hail Mary attempt to rig the election. Wages grew for the first time in decades under Trump. Lowest unemployment rates in modern history. Black unemployment was at an all time low. The illegal border crossings were significantly reduced.
Then ole Fauci and the Bush-Obama deep state actors sprung into action to sabotage everything in their effort to thwart Trump. The Trump Derangement Syndrome sickos were hell bent to stop him from being the most successful President since Reagan. They just couldn’t stand how successful he was at turning things around.
I took issue with his spending just like I have almost every administration except Clinton who worked with Newt to get us on a more reasonable track debt and spending wise.
This current cast of characters and their disdain for fossil fuel energy and disdain for securing American energy independence, whether it be via nuclear power or gas and oil, have caused gas and power costs to go through the roof and it was completely unnecessary. That added cost translates to higher food cost, higher utility costs, higher cost for everything while wages stayed flat or declined. This a good ole Jimmy Carter malaise that this current crew purposefully pursued b/c of their stupid green energy raw deal agenda.
So no, most Americans ain’t buying what they are selling this time around.
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Re: However, wages have declined under Biden and prices have acclerated so
Jun 22, 2024, 6:15 PM
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Well said young man
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:06 AM
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Hard for any small/local business to stay open these days, they probably could only makes ends meet during football season. The more I look back at 2020 the more blown out of proportion it looks, none of those businesses should've been shut down and now with the loony Dems running everything into the ground it's even worse. But, we just have to pretend it's normal...or the new normal right.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:12 AM
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Good, cheap food. It was the spot to cure a hangover. RIP Paws
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:19 AM
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Is that the old Sonny's 1,2,3 Diner spot? Fond memories of the salad bar at 2:00 AM.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:25 AM
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Yes, and hard to believe when reading this that I was in school when they first opened. Geez time flies.
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Finna?***
Jun 21, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Re: Finna?***
Jun 21, 2024, 3:29 PM
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Boom-
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I always remember it as the 123 Diner***
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Sonnys 123***
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Re: Sonnys 123***
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speaking of restaurants going under, have your labor overruns from paying your short order cooks an exec chef salary buried you yet?
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Re: Sonnys 123***
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“Service with a scowl”
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Re: Spartanburg lost one after 47 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 10:55 AM
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They didn't want to pass on prices to customers "creating a hardship" as if people are forced to eat there, so instead they closed and now those people have to eat at other places with higher food prices. Seems like a sound business decision
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not much for reading between the lines
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Its a nice way to publicly state that they were losing money and they realize that there is a limit on what they can charge for their product. It really is a spiral once it starts. They probably knew if they charged what they needed to charge to break even much less make a profit, they would lose customers due to higher prices meaning again coming up short and again needing to raise prices over and over until you've lost not only the business but depending on how far you take it, your savings. There is only so much cost cutting you can do as a small business.
So, yes this was probably a very sound business decision for them. Hopefully, they did it soon enough before heading too far down the wrong path.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 11:18 AM
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Never heard of it.***
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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I drive by there several times a day.....and I could never tell if it was open or closed. It has "closed' several times over the years. There is no doubt a well run diner would do well in that location, regardless of prices.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 12:19 PM
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Had my first hot dog there as a kid of about 3 way back before it was Paws in about 1955 when it was the 123 Truck Stop. Pre I-85 when all the through trucks were either on US29 or US123. Pre Lake Hartwell. Pre Danny. Heck, pre-history!
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 21, 2024, 4:04 PM
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#### #### ####........ where does one get good fried chicken now?
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 25, 2024, 3:42 PM
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The Steak House in Walhalla has the best fried chicken. Ate at The Junction in Gowensville on HWY 14 recently, and their fried chicken was surprisingly good for a (small) buffet.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 4:15 PM
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Sonny's 1,2,3 late night after TTT played "I'm Going Straight to Hell" and flipped the lights on at 2 a.m., forcing everyone to kill their $2 pitchers of beer before heading out. Stumbled in Sonny's a many a night...
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 4:45 PM
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There are a lot of reasons a small business would close. It may or may not have been due to inflation. However, that is certainly possible under our current economy.
I wonder if they are going to sell the business if they own the building. A local restaurant closed and sold the property to some individuals that renovated it and turned it into a different type of restaurant.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 7:23 PM
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Everyone should check the real article on this. They had an expensive kitchen issue that they could not afford to fix. The land owners had a deal in place to sell all of the property to a developer but Oconee county would not approve the development.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 21, 2024, 7:25 PM
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Most of these useless places should have never been in business in the first place.
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You are correct, restaurant business is extremely competitive and most people aren't willing to work that hard. For local restaurants that have survived many years it's my belief that the next generation of the family often just doesn't want or need to make the effort. So the original owner retires and closes. It's more simple than rising costs of business. That's how capitalism works, such as it is. And no one's fault, certainly not the President's. I bet no one gave the Prez credit when it opened.
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Jun 21, 2024, 9:06 PM
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I believe it was the 123 Truck Stop when I was at Clemson. We use to go there after a late night at the Tiger Den. Great late night food.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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I’ve never been to Holden’s, but if they closed because they didn’t want to pass rising prices onto the, that’s weak, I call them quitters, it’s good that they closed. Financial Darwinism. It’s likely a stronger business will open in their place. Survival of the fittest. Free market. Welcome to America.
Y’all clowns that think Trump and or Biden had anything to do with this recent inflation (which has mostly passed) simply do not understand basic economics.
If you’re getting your information from Fox News, social media cesspools and Publix prices, you do not understand basic economics. Try watching Bloomberg you might learn something new.
If you’re waiting for prices to return to pre-Covid levels, keep waiting. LMFAO.
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 22, 2024, 5:00 PM
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If the restaurant business is in such shambles real question here, how the hell is pixie & bills still open to this day? I've never eaten there before Everytime I drive past it. It Looks like a ghost town, my parents meet n P&B's in 77 so just wondering how that place is still alive & well in 2024.
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Jun 22, 2024, 7:25 PM
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It is about $$$ developers period. Nothing to do with their business. Being consumed by condo developer. Wait for all trees etc to be gone around that area soon. Money talks…..
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 24, 2024, 7:26 AM
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Inflation rate has shrunk but the sky high prices remain. And yes decisions made at the White House have direct impacts on inflation.
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Game Changer [1769]
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 24, 2024, 7:31 AM
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Are you waiting for prices to come down?
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Developers assume another one…condo city soon. Sad. Marching closer to Seneca…keep them away!!!
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Game Changer [1769]
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
Jun 24, 2024, 7:29 AM
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What are suggesting when you say “keep them away”?
Do you want some government entity to step in and stop the developers?
Should the county get more active and restrictive in zoning so county officials can decide exactly what is built where?
Who is deemed to have the authority and wisdom to “keep them away” in a manner that is best for all of us?
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Varsity [107]
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Re: TNET: Upstate restaurant closes after 26 years
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Jun 22, 2024, 7:21 PM
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Developers consuming their property…hard to turn down the money. All Trees gone soon..another condo city! Nothing to do with their business model they saw the handwriting on the wall. Developers taking over yet another area! Sad to see it marching into Oconee County too! Clemson U eating the towns.
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All-TigerNet [5864]
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hate to see businesses close, but.
Jun 22, 2024, 9:20 PM
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…. Took my 13 yr old son there on our way to our Lake Keowee home and it was awful. Poor service, cold food and just an overall dirty feeling. Not how I remembered it. Sad.
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