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TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:10 AM
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Orange Phenom [14692]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:15 AM
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Sorry guys...let's get ready for next year!
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Rival Killer [2923]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:16 AM
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When a statement starts out "We are disappointed" it generally isn't good. I hate this for our 2 guys. Jordan Lay better be getting after it this summer.
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Ring of Honor [23799]
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So, in 5 tests, they only failed the one administered by the
May 24, 2019, 9:20 AM
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Lab the NCAA uses ?
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Re: So, in 5 tests, they only failed the one administered by the
May 24, 2019, 9:53 AM
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OBVIOUSLY IN ALABAMA
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Ring of Honor [23799]
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I think the lab they used was in SoCal
May 24, 2019, 10:26 AM
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Not 100% sure ,but think I'm right.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:20 AM
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If we had a law school this wouldn't be happening.
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Re: TNET: NCAA appeal in Ostarine case- I'm sure Swoff
May 24, 2019, 9:23 AM
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held our hand every step of the way and showed equal concern for us as with UNC's academic scandal (which started during his AD tenure). Probably went to see them at the NCAA too. (Sarcasm- he was too busy not selling the ACC Network to cable providers). Wake up Clemson and other conference members (excluding UNC)
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Oculus Spirit [43277]
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The big takeaway here is that it is just like Big Dex said
May 24, 2019, 9:29 AM
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They take tests all the time and he would never do anything selfish like that to hurt the team. I believe him.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:33 AM
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There should be a lawsuit filed against the NCAA immediately for he ll make up a reason and make them spend money. They will cave just like they did with UNCheat, Allbarn and others.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:38 AM
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I would say Clemson should find out how to test for that particular steroid and put everything they use to be tested accordingly. It might not become official that something mislabeled caused the problem, but it might help them avoid this in the future. It may lead eventually to the FDA and such to finally catch a CRIMINAL company not doing their job properely.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case***
May 24, 2019, 9:44 AM
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:51 AM
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This is strictly speculation but I'm wagering the supplement was given to the players by a former player who happens to own a gym not far from Clemson. That player also happens to be one of my favorite players of this past decade. I could even see it being a mistake on his end thinking it was just a supplement and wouldn't pop on a ped test. Sarms and prohormones were a gray area up until recent years.
Either way I don't think there's an epidemic at Clemson, truly believe these guys just weren't smart about taking a supplement and doing their own research on it.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 10:17 AM
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While this is possible, this should never, ever happen. My daughter just finished her career as an FSU student athlete, and every NCAA athlete is well drilled on the fact that they should never take anything not supplied or approved by the school.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 10:54 AM
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Read the statement from the lawyer. It said that it was obvious to everyone (even the NCAA) that it was contamination and not deliberate ingestion. So...no....not given to them at Boulware's Gym. Maybe that was said in sarcasm - I hope so. Because there's no need for those guys to be over there with all the bells & whistles they have on campus.
The sad thing is NCAA reason for rejecting the appeal is basically "well the rule doesn't make exceptions for contamination". Bureaucracy at its best!
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Mascot [22]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:51 AM
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THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS !!!!#### A BLATANT PERSECUTION OF THE CLEMSON TIGERS FOR DARING TO DETHRONE THEIR KING ALABAMA !!!!!####
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:57 AM
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These 2 youngmen are about to get paid!! This will not hold up outside of the NCAA boardroom. These 2 families with the help of these attorneys are about to turn the Ncaa upside down. You can mark it down.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 10:07 AM
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Lets hope so!!!
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:58 AM
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Hate it for these kids. They did nothing wrong, but are losing a year of their college careers because of the inefficiencies of the NCAA
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 9:59 AM
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It is way past time that all conferences to pull away from the governing of the NCAA. To many times has the same rules have had different versions of the rules having different effects depending on the school accuse of an infraction!!!
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Game Day Hero [4170]
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I hope the student's sue but they would need to have the $$$***
May 24, 2019, 10:10 AM
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they better hire a lawyer not associated with the school
May 24, 2019, 10:42 AM
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Because those lawyers couldn't get Jesus out of a DUI ticket
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well
May 24, 2019, 10:52 AM
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All-In [10756]
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That’s Theotis Willinghan Swofford III
May 24, 2019, 7:20 PM
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Illegimate son of a commissioner on graduation day from UNC Law School
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Rival Killer [2691]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 10:16 AM
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I should think the NCAA is going to be liable for a lawsuit from these guys, not simply for restored playing time, but for potential damages, given the USADA's changed stance on such cases based on science.
If the NCAA is following policies that don't represent the best, most up to date scientific data, surely they have liability for decisions that so drastically effect a student athletes life.
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Paw Master [16947]
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I don't believe the NCAA could defend itself
May 24, 2019, 10:45 AM
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In a lawsuit. Their inconsistency in applying punishment is a scarlet letter of incompetency. Time to tear that faux body down.
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Oculus Spirit [41697]
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Ef 'em***
May 24, 2019, 10:48 AM
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Paw Warrior [4818]
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Such BS!***
May 24, 2019, 10:51 AM
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Game Changer [1737]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 11:21 AM
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get a REAL lawyer---the ncaa will coward down
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Clemson Conqueror [11846]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 11:43 AM
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I am still puzzled why Clemson could not find the source of the Osterine ..... or maybe they did and that is why we are not hearing about it. Is it better to have two players suspended than to have the entire program looked at under a microscope because players may have been given the substance (albeit unknowingly, as I don't think we would ever do it on purpose)? It is just strange to me, as the players had to ingest some sort of nutritional substance pretty close to the testing date and no one knows what it was.
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Rival Killer [2691]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 11:50 AM
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If there was a trace amount in a particular "batch" of an approved supplement the guys took, I don't know how they ever could find that source months, or even weeks, later.
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Clemson Conqueror [11846]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 1:08 PM
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That's true, but you would think the same product would include the same elements ..... maybe not. You never know what kind of control where these products are made there is. I just believe the players and if I were in their shoes I would probably be a tad bitter toward the NCAA or whomever put that crap in a legitimate product.
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Paw Warrior [4929]
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 7:30 PM
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No, supplements are notorious for being different batch to batch, especially in the "inactive ingredients" which can be just about anything.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 11:52 AM
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Giella is a senior. Thats it for him. I feel horrible for him bc I believe these kids knew nothing that this was contamination. The bad thing is that the whole situation with ostarine and supplement companies is about to come to a head. I think we are about to see some major changes with the unsupervised supplement companies. I don't know the governing body that are responsible for the checks and balances of these companies but too many athletes are getting banned from contaminated supplements for this to continue.
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 1:14 PM
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Galloway had a redshirt season available. Was that also forfeited? In other words is he now down to 2 years remaining?
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Legend [6890]
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Still has the red shirt, but he cant use it for suspension
May 24, 2019, 2:29 PM
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Is my understanding
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Re: TNET: Statement from Clemson on NCAA appeal in Ostarine case
May 24, 2019, 2:47 PM
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More than likely GNC tainted product. That's why it was not overturned because they will say they new better even though the label did not have it in it.
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