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TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 4:15 PM
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Gridiron Giant [15955]
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That’s just stupid. Nothing else you can say.***
Jul 19, 2022, 4:18 PM
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Standout [345]
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Re: That’s just stupid. Nothing else you can say.***
Jul 19, 2022, 5:23 PM
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“Trash?” Compared to who ...the Pittsburg Steelers?
Did this guy ever watch any Clemson football games.
He probably reads selective articles from Sports Illustrated..
Especially the ones about why Clemson wasn’t that great
last season. That seems to sell a lot of advertisement ..
especially on ESPN.
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CU Guru [1561]
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Re: That’s just stupid. Nothing else you can say.***
Jul 19, 2022, 6:09 PM
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ESPN stinks!
I virtually only watch them for Clemson Games.
Their commentary is a waste of time…..
Or, if I want to watch perverted commentators.
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Clemson Sports Icon [57748]
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Which high school did he drop out of in the 10th grade?***
Jul 19, 2022, 6:40 PM
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Re: alt-left-espn is a lot like cnn
Jul 19, 2022, 7:09 PM
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Trolling? I hope so. Because it's sad if you really believe such stupidity.
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Re: alt-left-espn is a lot like cnn
Jul 19, 2022, 8:00 PM
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They just make up stories to fit their narrative.
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CU Guru [1598]
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Re: That’s just stupid. Nothing else you can say.***
Jul 19, 2022, 11:45 PM
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And held the national champion GA bulldogs to 10 points!
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Letterman [198]
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Re: That’s just stupid. Nothing else you can say.***
Jul 20, 2022, 2:47 AM
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The defense held them to 3.
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Dynasty Maker [3146]
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That's an irrelevant point ...
Jul 20, 2022, 8:43 AM
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If he'd said Clemson's D was "overrated," "overvalued," or even "decent with some particular weak spots or exploitable tendencies," -- or something to that effect-- then the schedule bit would be relevant. In other words, maybe the objective caliber /quality of the D wasn't on par with national statistical rankings. Fine, that's a sober assessment. But "trash"? Horse$hit. That's just showing a narrative and being a dumba$$.
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Re: That’s just stupid. Nothing else you can say.***
Jul 20, 2022, 10:56 AM
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1.5 ppg given up to SEC teams. 3rd ranked D according to S&P which takes strength of schedule into account. Cockadoodledoo loser
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Gridiron Giant [15955]
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Oh dude. Come on. No one can call Clemson's 2021 D "trash"
Jul 22, 2022, 10:57 AM
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and continue to be taken seriously.
Our SOS was fine. We played the national champions, for goodness sake. Pitt's Scoring Offense ranked third. Wake's fourth. UGA's tenth. And we had a terrible offense that couldn't keep possession. And we had a ton of injuries. And in the face of that, we had:
#8 in Total Defense
#2 in Scoring Defense
#2 in Red Zone Defense
#13 in 1st Down Defense
#21 in 3rd Down Defense
#34 in Passing Yards Allowed
#7 in Rushing Defense
It is indefensible to call our Defense "trash" last year, and if you try to, you are exposing yourself as either not very intelligent or just a hack Gamecock.
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Re: That’s just stupid. Nothing else you can say.***
Jul 20, 2022, 12:39 AM
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Oh whoever made this claim is probably not even (or was) a GM.
It's just Heather Dinnich.
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Who are these people?? Probably GM of the Jets
Jul 19, 2022, 4:21 PM
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Or Lions.
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Re: Who are these people?? Probably GM of the Jets
Jul 19, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Or made up and just a flat out lie.
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Re: Who are these people?? Probably GM of the Jets
Jul 19, 2022, 6:39 PM
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Or maybe Texans!
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Re: no way.. sounds like something the Panthers would say***
Jul 19, 2022, 6:37 PM
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I have listened to a few Scott fitterer interviews and I doubt he has ever said "that dude" in the manner of that quote.
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Orange Beast [6437]
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Is 'trash' the new pop culture word for ELITE?
Jul 19, 2022, 4:24 PM
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If not, both these guys are morons.
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Dynasty Maker [3536]
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 4:26 PM
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Guess it's time foe Wes Goodwin to crank up the Trash Truck.
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Athletic Dir [1158]
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 20, 2022, 8:30 AM
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POTD right here. the ROY bus and the Trash Truck are on the road.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 4:39 PM
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????Trash defense??? What an idiotic statement!!! A NFL GM ??????
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He’s probably a suckeye***
Jul 19, 2022, 4:43 PM
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Re: He’s probably a suckeye***
Jul 19, 2022, 9:55 PM
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I was thinking it was the Carolina Panther GM. We all know what they think about drafting Tigers.
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Game Changer [1695]
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 4:44 PM
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Just think how good our D would've been if our O could stay on the field.
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CU Guru [1561]
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 6:11 PM
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Exactly!
Great point!
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 5:07 PM
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Yeah yeah yeah - cue the righteous indignation. Clearly this person was told our offense was worse than most high school offenses and just flipped over in his brain to spit out that the D was trash. He probably didn’t watch a single quarter or look at any scores of games since he’s too busy preparing for the draft.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 5:24 PM
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I think you nailed it.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 5:09 PM
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That should make UsuC feel better...or not.
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Orange Blooded [3624]
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 5:14 PM
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He will like 2022.
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Game Changer [1833]
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 5:19 PM
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Probably the same guy that spends a 4th round pick on someone from SW Missouri Polytechnic to hand out Gatorade
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Ring of Honor [23802]
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That trash defense held UGA to 10 points.***
Jul 19, 2022, 5:25 PM
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Orange Blooded [2284]
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Re: That trash defense held UGA to 10 points.***
Jul 19, 2022, 5:47 PM
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Actually, it held them to 3 pts. The offense gave up 7.
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Whut?
Jul 19, 2022, 9:19 PM
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“Don’t worry about criticism from someone
Jul 19, 2022, 5:30 PM
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for whom you wouldn’t seek advice.” Dabo
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 5:32 PM
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Total ignorance on GM's part.
Defense was solid even with it's share of injuries.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 6:44 PM
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If you are not First, You are Trash.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 6:00 PM
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Hmm...
If our D gives up 14.9 PPG every year.....
I'll take that "trash" every year and twice on Saturday.....
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 11:13 PM
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And twice on Sunday. F the over
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Just another reason to not like the NFL.***
Jul 19, 2022, 6:22 PM
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Re: Just another reason to not like the NFL.***
Jul 19, 2022, 7:01 PM
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The NFL is awesome. That guy is just clueless though.
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Paw Warrior [4751]
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Did he watch our offense last year?
Jul 19, 2022, 6:29 PM
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I just want to know if there’s even a word in the English language to describe it?! ?? ??
Anyways, Our defense was elite. Especially considering how much they were on the field. I believe you could easily make the argument that it was the best defense in the country last year and if it wasn’t it would be in the top four.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 6:38 PM
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At least we know what Judge Keller does for a living now.
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Our offense was trash last year. Our defense is why we eeked out 10 wins.***
Jul 19, 2022, 6:44 PM
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Game Day Hero [4325]
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Re: Our offense was trash last year. Our defense is why we eeked out 10 wins.***
Jul 19, 2022, 8:31 PM
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Amen JK.
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CU Guru [1251]
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Obviously
Jul 19, 2022, 6:51 PM
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Not a successful NFL general manager.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 6:53 PM
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He's an idiot. The same defense that didn't give up an offensive touchdown to the eventual national champion.
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Best is the Standard
Jul 19, 2022, 6:55 PM
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Can’t have it both ways. This guy expected us to be 1st, not 8th
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 7:04 PM
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The Tigernet staff needs to send all the defensive stats to this idiot GM (but don’t know who it is).
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Rival Killer [2820]
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Thanks for the bulletin board material!!
Jul 19, 2022, 7:08 PM
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GO TIGERS
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NFL GM proves he's retarded***
Jul 19, 2022, 7:25 PM
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 7:40 PM
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One response needed.
Detroit Lions! What a resume to criticize
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 7:47 PM
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I mean we did give up 3 pts to the offense of the eventual national champions. Could have done better. ??
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 7:50 PM
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His eight-year tenure as head of the franchise led to the worst eight-year record in the history of the modern NFL (31–84, a . 270 winning percentage), and resulted in his termination on September 24, 2008. Millen assembled the personnel and coaching staff of the 2008 Lions, which became the first team to go 0–16.
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Different idiot
Jul 21, 2022, 8:36 AM
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Matt Miller vs Matt Millen
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Opp Pts/G: 14.8 (2nd of 130) i mean 2nd
Jul 19, 2022, 8:08 PM
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out of 130 schools in points per game with some of our starters injured..not sure what we could have done to be not trash.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 9:06 PM
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The world is full of idiots. An ex scout of the Jets said that Trevor Lawrence was a bust already. Just because they’re in the NFL doesn’t mean they have a brain
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 19, 2022, 9:24 PM
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You guys are right - without the D we don't sniff double digit wins so I'll take that "trash" every year. Having said that, and not defending that statement, but I'm guessing he is looking at the more "traditional" defenses normally played in the NFL (due to personnel) and calling some of the BV exotic moves "trash." In college you can take a lot of chances with superior talent like we have and and win most of the time. If you're playing the likes of Brady, Rogers (and soon DW and TL I hope) in the NFL and you take chances on exotic blitzes you have a much higher chance of getting burned than you do against an ACC schedule. That's why most NFL defenses once you get over the disguises and movement end up being fairly traditional without as many gaps that folks can take advantage of.
That is the only rationale I can come up with (other than stupidity) for a statement like that.
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Clemson Conqueror [11815]
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He didn’t watch much Clemson FB because our Defense
Jul 19, 2022, 9:28 PM
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Was the only reason we won half of our games. If we had anything going on offense we could’ve easily had the top ranked defense in the country.
Our Offense consistently put our defense in horrible positions all year with constant 3 and outs.
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This just shows how much these GMs really do not watch any actual Clemson games
Jul 19, 2022, 9:30 PM
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You can't watch that Clemson/UGA game and call the Clemson D "trash" the D did take a step back from injuries but that was a STOUT defense to start the season!!
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When you consider how bad our offense was last year, it is
Jul 19, 2022, 9:50 PM
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amazing the numbers our defense put up. Heck, the offense added about 3 points per game to the defenses numbers...
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My recollection is different
Jul 20, 2022, 5:48 AM
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I believe someone is confused because it was the Clemson offense that was trash last season. The defense had to consistently hurry back on the field and could not get a breather. Without Davis, the defensive front went toe to toe with Georgia’s offensive line. The only game that the defense was not up to standard for me was Pitt.
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Orange Blooded [2245]
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Apparently intelligence is not a prerequisite to become an
Jul 20, 2022, 5:53 AM
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NFL GM.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 20, 2022, 7:58 AM
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I wish he would've elaborated more on that. I'm kinda curious what he saw vs what I saw.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 20, 2022, 8:05 AM
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Well, trash is not correct but compared to the few previous years, our defense did not scare teams. Injuries killed last year on both sides if the ball and the NC State was a perfect example when we could not stop them.
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 20, 2022, 2:14 PM
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Last years defense was one of Clemson’s best. It’s an idiotic statement to cal it trash, it would be idiotic to even cal it mediocre. The only stat line that wasn’t elite on last years defense was turnovers.
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ESECPN Coot ALERT
Jul 20, 2022, 9:49 AM
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Rogue Coot writing articles 30-0 reasons to hate on Clemson’s trash season 10-3, a 3 year win total for the coots!
Message was edited by: HumbleServant®
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Freshman [7]
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 20, 2022, 1:11 PM
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I hope we see more of this "trash" this year--piles of it. I have zero concerns about this comment!
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 20, 2022, 4:39 PM
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Last year Defense trash. That GM is on meth ??
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Re: TNET: NFL GM calls Clemson's 2021 defense 'trash' in ESPN article
Jul 20, 2022, 4:43 PM
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Wait?? Dan Wolken is an NFL GM now???
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Mike Miller? Who's he? Seriously, I don't know who he is, regardless...I'd like Mike to take a pause and focus his attention on the "trash and whining babies" that comprise the NFL. I haven't watched pro ball in a minute because I find that whole organization disgusting. I will cheer on my recruited Tigers...but I don't follow the disaster that is the NFL...and honestly maybe Mike is just jealous...but he should stay in his sandbox and play.
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Orange Blooded [2594]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Don’t worry about facts
Jul 22, 2022, 9:08 AM
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Just say it and it’s true, that’s the way of the world today. You don’t actually have to know what your talking about or even be right, just say it with feeling and people believe anything.
GO TIGERS!
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