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TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 5:40 PM
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CU Medallion [18923]
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NO! He's one guy that really seemed to be quite promising
Mar 28, 2019, 5:45 PM
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for next year. Hate to lose the big guy, but best of luck wherever you land Javan.
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Ouch. I wonder why? He was guaranteed a lot of playing time...***
Mar 28, 2019, 5:49 PM
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Bad news! He looked improved as year went on...
Mar 28, 2019, 6:01 PM
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A Tiger team that looks like a 20 game loss bottom of ACC dweller...ugh!
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possibly, but seems that every time i think we're going to
Mar 29, 2019, 4:53 PM
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be worse we end up overachieving but on the flip side (like this year) every time I think we finally have a team that can go far we underachieve. Like the year we started the year #2 in the country after barnes left and we ended up in the NIT at the end.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 6:04 PM
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LOL. Can we just cut ties with this coach now and move forward. I guess it’s going to take an awful season next year which is guaranteed to happen
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 6:08 PM
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LOL. Can we just cut ties with this coach now and move forward. I guess it’s going to take an awful season next year which is guaranteed to happen
You seem very happy to be a tiger fan predicting an awful season for our team. Would you LOL if TLaw announced he was transferring?
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Kind of a major league strawman there, huh?
Mar 28, 2019, 7:34 PM
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Comparing Javon White to Trevor
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You defended Bowden until the end
Mar 29, 2019, 2:19 AM
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Dont make the same mistake twice
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Good Lord Almighty! Can we please fix the broken?***
Mar 28, 2019, 6:08 PM
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Orange Beast [6441]
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Can brown-L please transfer?!***
Mar 28, 2019, 6:08 PM
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Legend [6879]
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Geez, how many players does bb lose to transfer
Mar 28, 2019, 6:34 PM
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Since he started it seems we have guys transfer out after almost every season
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Re: Geez, how many players does bb lose to transfer
Mar 28, 2019, 9:16 PM
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I guess you forgot that we take transfers too - Elijah Thomas, Marquis Reid and Shelton Mitchell were all transfers from other programs... Don't know why Javon is leaving - but I'd guess it's because of who we have coming back and who we've signed that play in his position. Quite frankly he was a defensive liability and that's why his playing time was limited.
Brownell is NOT going anywhere unless someone comes along and offers him a ton more money.
Some of you would ask for a bacteria count on the "milk of human kindness!"
The coach was NOT our problem this year - bad luck, missed free-throws and missed lay-ups in critical situations caused us to miss "the Dance."
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I'm not a pro/anti- Brownell guy but missed free throws and
Mar 28, 2019, 11:01 PM
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missed layups are part of coaching... Can't take the good and dismiss the bad.
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I haven’t seen many people here acknowledging the good.
Mar 30, 2019, 12:39 PM
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According to them our coach, players, and program are awful.
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I'll quote Spurrier, "we've got to quit making excuses and
Mar 29, 2019, 7:09 AM
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Saying we're unlucky, and realize that's just bad play" or one of my high school coaches "excuses are for losers"
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Re: Geez, how many players does bb lose to transfer
Mar 28, 2019, 11:55 PM
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"Since he started" the NCAA has made it more possible for players to move around and take advantage of opportunities.
The same thing is true "since Hamilton started" at FSU, "since Roy started" at UNC, and "since Frank Martin started" at SoCar.
But don't let reasonability get in the way of a good 'let's blame Brownell' moment.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 6:38 PM
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Nobody here seems to know how he stacks up in practice relative to Johathan Baehre. He very well could have seen that he was going to have limited playing time again next year. If the lo ss of a guy who averaged 2.0 points per game is going to be a catastrophic loss, we really are in bad shape.
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News flash: we are in bad shape.***
Mar 28, 2019, 6:48 PM
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Re: News flash: we are in bad shape.*** Really?
Mar 28, 2019, 11:38 PM
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Were you pronouncing that same thing before this last season ended?
Some of you guys are a real credit to your school. I remember in HS one of our rivals' AD wouldn't bother fielding a team if he thought their team would have a down season. His ego denied kids the opportunities to grow and learn, and he taught the students and parents some horrible lessons.
They weren't our rivals long. Their program never progressed.
Some of you fair weather fans remind me of him.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 29, 2019, 7:35 AM
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^This
And I bet White knew where here stood.
I watched Johathan Baehre and he was a good pickup. Did well when playing with guard-heavy UNCA.
Actually, he was 4-6 for 9 points, 5 rebounds in 24 minutes when UNCA played against us.
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Unfortunately, as I have mused before...
Mar 29, 2019, 11:23 AM
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what we have is a lack of talent to compete game in and game out with the top half of the ACC... we are not in equal standing with those who are in line ahead of us for NCAA tournament invites. Some times there are reasons for players that go to mid major schools that has nothing to do with their talent, but most times, players go to mid major schools specifically because of their talent. Thomas (TAMU) and Mitchell (Vandy) came from other Power 5 schools, Reed (Robert Morris) and Skara (Valpo) came from mid majors but we wouldn't have necessarily missed Skara because those minutes would have gone to Simms, Newman and Tyson. We are going to miss Reed and would have missed him this year if he had missed any time.
We can't live hanging out by the transfer portal looking to pick up scraps, nor can we live by not competing for and signing the next level of talent below the one and dones... as HC, all of that is on Brownell; he has to be able to project which talent is going to translate from high school (or translate as a transfer) to ACC competition to help win games. He can sign the best that Fike has to offer to lose games but it's his job to put together everything about the program to produce wins... and I will again point to the Lady Tigers for what can be done when the right coach is in place...
As for Baehre, that stat line playing against us really doesn't say much; what he needed was post a stat line like Reed did against us...
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 7:24 PM
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Better have another grad transfer of equal or better value or we are in very bad trouble...
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 7:29 PM
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Not many of those out there this year and there will be fierce competition.
If my count is right including incoming freshmen, Clemson has only 8 players on scholarship and will have 5 spots still open
Tough to win the ACC without any seniors and only half (8/13) of your scholarships used.
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10 on scholarship
Mar 29, 2019, 8:02 AM
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The 3 freshmen, plus Trapp, Newman, Tyson, Simms, Jemison, William and Baehre
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Hasn't he been pretty consistent in NOT using the available
Mar 29, 2019, 10:25 AM
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scholarships each year and then having at least one transfer sitting out not contributing? That would be fine if we weren't missing some piece of a good team each year.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 7:40 PM
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PG: Clyde Trapp SG: John Newman SF: Aarmir Sims PF: Jonathan Baehre C: Trey Jamison
Bench: Hunter Tyson, Al-Amir Dawes, Chase Hunter, and Alex Hemenway
Maybe we’ll get some good transfers ???????
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 7:41 PM
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PG: Clyde Trapp SG: John Newman SF: Aarmir Sims PF: Jonathan Baehre C: Trey Jamison
Bench: Hunter Tyson, Al-Amir Dawes, Chase Hunter, and Alex Hemenway
Maybe we’ll get some good transfers ???????
Is Malik Williams still on the team?
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 8:18 PM
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I wonder who will be able to bring the ball up the court. A press will kill this team.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 8:53 PM
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Thanks ta. Glad to see that. I hope our real fans don’t run this kid off before he enrolls!
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Re: NJ Playas have a good program
Mar 28, 2019, 11:48 PM
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Watched them win Peach Jam in 2015. Don't remember who started for them. I'm sure this kid didn't play for them before 2017.
Then Micheal and Trey blew away the world in 2016. I think their closest game was a 24(?)-point blowout.
That was the year i met Jim Boeheim. No, it was not a long conversation.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 29, 2019, 11:19 AM
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Come on guys! Let’s put our faith in Brownell. He knows what he’s doing! Let’s rally around these young guys! They will be the surprise of the conference next year! We’ll be back in the Sweet 16!
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Wish him the best, but...
Mar 28, 2019, 7:43 PM
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Where's he going go?
#21
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Re: Wish him the best, but...
Mar 28, 2019, 8:55 PM
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Same here. I liked him but he has a loooong way to go! Not an ACC player imo
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well he came from Oral Roberts
Mar 28, 2019, 11:59 PM
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Maybe he thought he'd try the step up in competition but now realizes he would rather play in a smaller conference again
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Even the rats are jumping ship on Brownell
Mar 28, 2019, 9:07 PM
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May need to hold open tryouts in Fike in order to field a team next year...
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no, you're still here "coach"***
Mar 28, 2019, 10:28 PM
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How original coming from one of the 'Sewer Dwellers'
Mar 28, 2019, 10:32 PM
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What a freaking joke you are....
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Re: the rats
Mar 29, 2019, 12:01 AM
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Most of us think it is the rats who are trying to get everyone else to join them in jumping off the Clemson ship.
I'm staying on. If you don't respect your coaches, there's an SEC school that would value your contributions, such as they are.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 28, 2019, 11:43 PM
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Since he was a Graduate transfer, I didn't realize he had another year available. Hm m m, you think he didn't see himself getting any more playing time than this year? really?
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 29, 2019, 9:36 AM
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That's a huge loss for next year.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 29, 2019, 11:04 AM
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I’m not saying next year isnt going to be ugly, because it’s going to be ugly, but White wasn’t going to make or break anything. He gave effort, but he was not a good player.
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Re: TNET: Javan White to transfer out of Clemson
Mar 29, 2019, 11:11 AM
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Unless we get another grad transfer to play the 5, he was still the best 5 we had coming back though. He had some potential.
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CONGARTS JAVAN YULE ALWAYS BE A TIGER!!!***
Mar 30, 2019, 12:35 PM
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