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TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'
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TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 10:52 AM
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ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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The only time weve gotten the benefit of doubt

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Nov 13, 2024, 10:55 AM
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Is when we’ve been highly ranked pre season. We have very little brand bias.

But, I can’t say I disagree with his take here in terms of us being ranked though.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 10:56 AM
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pot, kettle, black much? He just cited the whole sec conference year over year.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 12:45 PM
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Right why is Missouri even ranked then? These ppl I swear. Smu only loss is to top 6 BYU by not that big of margin yet they are still 14 behind bama, ole miss.
Like talk about brand and money bias!!

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Nov 13, 2024, 7:58 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias' ]
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E X A C T L Y, and I do wonder what makes that sumbitch think that anyone would actually ask or care about what his opinion is, I say nobody especially when anybody with a brain can clearly see that he has a lot of hate in his opinionated words about Clemson. IMO, his opinion is as worthless as dried up teats on an old cow!!!

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 10:58 AM
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Brand bias 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:05 AM
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I think 20 is just about right for now.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:34 AM
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Agreed. Like it or not Clemson hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse yet. Most recent Virginia Tech ain't it either and the tigers struggled for a half with them.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:29 PM
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Who has Texas beat Greg!!!

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He did talk about that

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Nov 13, 2024, 2:10 PM
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It's not in the article, but in the video in the article he explicitly talks about that for Texas & several other teams, for what it's worth.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:46 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias' ]
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See you buy into the SEC narritve! The ACC as a whole is just as good as any conference!

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:18 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias' ]
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Regrettably, I couldn't agree more.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'


Nov 13, 2024, 7:24 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias' ]
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Actually, our Tigers moved the ball well all game against VT. Just a few dropped passes and bone-headed QB decisions in the first half kept us from scoring.

And, our D was fabulous against VT -- the team that beat Miami, except for the bad call on the last play of that game.

The 50-yd FG attempt (that VT ran back for a TD) was a VERY bad decision by the coaches. (Look at the Loserville film -- we were lucky that 50-yd FG attempt was run back for a TD. Note that Loserville Lmost blocked our first extra point attempt. That shld hv been a warning about FG attempts.)

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Nov 14, 2024, 7:36 AM
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Woulda coulda shoulda. Va tech played their worst game of the year. Yes, some of that was our D but they had receivers open all night. Drones looked terrible and had no business trying to run. Most fans wanted the other kid to start. They only attempted 5, yes count them, 5 running plays. Va tech made zero adjustments to our defensive alignment. That's why most fans want him fired.

So to your point, that goes both ways.

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Re: TNET: You're correct

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Nov 14, 2024, 7:19 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias' ]
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I'm as big of a Clemson homer as there is, but they're correct. We have beaten no good team (that's the schedule, NOT our fault)... but the 2 decent teams we've played...... beaten CONVINCINGLY.

I don't care for McElroy.... but he's exactly right.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 8:14 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias' ]
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Clemson is at #20 with the playoff committee and everybody knows that #20 isn't good enough for our Tigers to be one of the playoff teams, so why would that sumbitch feel that it's necessary to be calling Clemson out with his negative nancy bullchit with Clemson not being a threat of taking one of those watered down playoff spots. Clemson was winning championships when Clemson and Bama was clearly the best two teams in the country without there being a close 3d place team.

What would make me happier than Clemson being in their watered down playoffs, would be to know that a Clemson fan slapped the taste out of his mouth, and kick him square in his A$$ when they walked off with him on the ground crying like the biotch that he is!!!

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hes not wrong

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:21 AM
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but honestly he should use this for smu vs texas..smu has a far better resume than texas. but they sit at 14 and texas at 3..that is the prime example of brand bias

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Re: hes not wrong

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Nov 13, 2024, 2:10 PM
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He does talk about that in the video, though.

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:25 AM
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Oh. That’s McElroy. I didn’t recognize him without the big shoes and red nose.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:27 AM
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IMO That's a compliment. Means the Clemson brand is big enough to be afforded the same benefit of the doubt as the biggest brands in the SEC and B1G. Thanks Mac.

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How many SEC teams in the playoff Greg? You want to talk about bias?

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:27 AM
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That Vandy loss looking really bad Alabama.

That Arkansas loss looking really, really bad Tennessee.

That Kentucky loss looking really, really, really bad Ole Miss.

You want to talk about bias, those 3 losses by teams he had no problem with being in the playoff rankings should be considered disqualifiers.

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Re: How many SEC teams in the playoff Greg? You want to talk about bias?

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Nov 13, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Northern Illinois has entered the conversation. . . . .

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That Soulless Ginger Knows Nothing

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:28 AM
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Keep him away from your kids

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Re: That Soulless Ginger Knows Nothing

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Nov 13, 2024, 4:48 PM
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Gregs just Paul Finebaum, Jr when it comes to anything to do with Clemson.

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Nov 13, 2024, 9:42 PM
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Not true. He had been pretty positive about Clemson until we laid the egg with Louisville. As much as I hate to admit it,I have wondered how we made it to the top 10 with our record. We knew we had to win out after UGA to have a shot. If we get lucky and Syracuse were to beat Miami????

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about #### time!***

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Didn't even have to look. New it was him. Let's shut him up by winning

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:44 AM
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convincingly these next three games. Then take care of business in our bowl game. Hoping we are the 4th seed.

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ONLY if we win out do we have a right to complain about this.

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:45 AM
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Good luck to us.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:48 AM
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So I guess “ Mcelboy “ doesn’t feel any other teams on the top 25 are getting brand bias? If this doesn’t give the Tigers the bulletin board disrespect the rest of the year then nothing will. GO TIGERS

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That's the opposite of what he says in the video, though?

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Nov 13, 2024, 2:12 PM
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He explicitly talks about several specific teams that way though & as explicitly about their wins and losses though (rather than not at all)?

He was one of the very few commentators gleaming over Clemson in the preseason & most of the season to-date so I don't think it's a hate or disrespect thing at all, & until we beat Pitt on Saturday UV is our best win with 4 losses.

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Re: That's the opposite of what he says in the video, though?

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Nov 13, 2024, 5:26 PM
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Are you his PR guy or something?

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Pot meet Kettle #Big10Teams #SECTeams***

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Nov 13, 2024, 11:54 AM
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The red-headed-step-child knows brand-bias better than most.

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Nov 13, 2024, 12:07 PM
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He benefitted from it at Bummer for years. He also has to pump up the ESecPN B1G and SUC brand-bias to get 18 SUC and B1G teams in the 12-team-playoff. Dude is great QB and I don’t mean quarterback. Sorry PC police.

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He did win a national championship.***


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Re: He did win a national championship.***

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Nov 14, 2024, 4:23 AM
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Meh. Honestly I had to look this guy up...didn't ring any bells from college or even as a broadcaster.

His wikipedia is pretty anemic like his career, but did find this blurb regarding the Natty vs. Texas in 1010: "He was able to complete 6 of 11 pass attempts for 58 yards while being sacked five times and losing 27 yards. Ingram and freshman Trent Richardson carried Alabama to a 37–21[48] victory with 225 yards and four touchdowns rushing combined."

So he won on a pre-passing-era Alabama team carried by (2) ridiculous running backs. Then stuck out (2) whole years for (2) games in the league. Basically Heather Dumitch not in the MAC.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 12:07 PM
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Well we all have a right to our opinions. All you can do is win and prove him wrong!

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I LOVE Clemson

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Nov 13, 2024, 12:45 PM
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But I agree with the assessment in that Clemson football has not beaten anyone of substance this year. Clemson has not shown it can play with the BIG BOYS at all this year and would likely be totally embarrassed based upon what they have displayed this year. I, for one, NEVER want to see Clemson embarrassed.

Losing is one thing, but being embarrassed by another team is something entirely different. Clemson has been embarrassed twice already this year.


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Nov 13, 2024, 12:51 PM
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Lmfao....his precious Bama team shouldn't be in the top 12

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 12:58 PM
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… all of which proves that brand bias does indeed exist.

Now that that is established, who is benefitting? Texas for sure … maybe Missouri but I hope not, I want those Tigers to win this week.

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:06 PM
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Guess he will see first hand this weekend at Pitt.

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Agreed!

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Nov 13, 2024, 2:15 PM
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Can't wait!

UV at 5-4 is our best win, yes, but if we beat Pitt on Saturday they will be a 7-3 team & that will replace our best win to-date this season. Go Tigers!

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Re: Agreed!

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:56 PM
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Beat Pitt then they will say it was because Pitt is bad.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:25 PM
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Nobody asked for your opinion, dude

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:36 PM
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Tell him to put one in one end and one in the other and rotate!

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:36 PM
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He's not wrong right now.

But we have two more games to change our perception.

Pitt has a pulse, although I do not believe they are as good as their record suggests. We should win that one by double digits, IMO.

South Carolina is really good. They are playing like a top 12 team right now. In fact, I think they are better than Georgia and Louisville right now. That would be a statement win.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:45 PM
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That’s rich coming from an SEC homer!! No TV network should be in charge of the playoffs or who gets in or have influence over it!

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Project much?

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Nov 13, 2024, 1:16 PM
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Butthead

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 2:40 PM
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He’s not lying

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Nov 13, 2024, 2:49 PM
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Spoken by someone whoi's ENTIRE career on and now off the field is predicated by brand bias...need I say more?
But to be fair we made (or rathee pooped) our own bed with our preformance against Louisville who granted, have played peopke tough BUT LOST to every other legit team they have faced.

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How can anyone disagree with him? Hes a jerk, but hes right.

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🤷

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:05 PM
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Clemson, I believe is the lowest 2 loss Power 4 team ranked right now Greg....
If Clemson were in the SEC, it would make Clemson a top 12 team, so there is obvious bias here...
Clemson is behind a 3 loss team and has a 3 loss team right behind them in the rankings...
Greg you are an SEC hack. Greg and PAUL are useless.

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Is that evidence of some sort of bias against us?

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:52 PM
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Or is it a result of our lack of quality wins and two bad losses?

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Pretty sure you could make a strong case for bias.


Nov 13, 2024, 7:25 PM
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Which is not a problem in this case. He's just a TV guy having some fun stirring it up.

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Nov 18, 2023, 9:26 PM [ in reply to Is that evidence of some sort of bias against us? ]
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It sounded to me that he has a terrible dislike for Clemson or Dabo, or both bc as it stands when he made his negative nancy comment about Clemson, Clemson isn't a threat of being in the playoffs unless teams he do like does some serious losing!!!

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He has been complimentary of us in the past.***

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:27 PM
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How often does every SEC school get the benefit of the doubt because of their brand? Especially the LSUs and Floridas who trick people into thinking they're actually a good team every year. Give me a break, it's about time Clemson got an ounce of "brand bias" for a change.

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:53 PM
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Start the season highly ranked even if not deserved and losses don't matter. Same bias in basketball.

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Nov 13, 2024, 8:25 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias' ]
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Really, and if he wants to talk about the brand getting a team in, his comment should have been directed toward the SEC!!!

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:45 PM
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Sure and explain to me how you lose to Vandy and are still projected a playoff team. #### you blithering idiot homer. Bama and the entire SEC is what gets propped up.

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Nov 13, 2024, 3:49 PM
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He wants the playoffs to be renamed the sec/big 10 challenge.

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Nov 13, 2024, 4:12 PM
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Thanks for the bulletin board material.


GO TIGERS BEAT THE PANTHERS!!!!

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'

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Nov 13, 2024, 4:43 PM
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Brand bias what a joke! How about your bias in favor of sec teams. I am really not liking McElroy’s comments the last several weeks. But I guess he drew the straw to hate on Clemson this week.

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Nov 13, 2024, 4:48 PM
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Gumby says, ESECPN analyst is propped up by, “bozo that will say whatever you pay him to say” bias.

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Nov 13, 2024, 4:49 PM
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Look, McElroy gets paid to spout out garbage that gets people talking but with that being said, it is hard to argue against him. Georgia, Louisville and UVA are the only teams we have played with better than .500 records. Florida State and Stanford are a combined 3-16. In the next 3 weeks, our schedule is much better with the games against Pitt and South Carolina so we have a chance to shut McElroy's mouth starting Saturday.

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Hand the ball off and shut the heyull up!

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Nov 13, 2024, 5:01 PM
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Saban should have tattooed that across his forehead.

~JKB

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That's rich.

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Nov 13, 2024, 5:08 PM
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But y'all know McElroy's absolutely just poking the bear for poking the bear's sake.

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Brand bias?!


Nov 13, 2024, 5:46 PM
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What the ####?! The whole ### ranking system, all of them, especially his employer espn's, is full of brand bias. Lol! He's an SEC schill, so he knows a lot about media brand bias for $dollars.

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Nov 13, 2024, 5:58 PM
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Brand bias is definitely a thing and we may have even been the beneficiary of it at some point in the past, however if he's going to complain about brand bias choosing Clemson of all teams seems a bit disingenuous.

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Nov 13, 2024, 6:09 PM
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Dabo should have the team feeding on this stuff. Prove everyone WRONG! GO Tigers!!!

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You can't spell 'brand bias' without SEC.***


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Theres only the S in there,


Nov 13, 2024, 8:12 PM
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there no E or C.

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Wow what a flip


Nov 13, 2024, 6:31 PM
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That's the same joker beating the orange drum 3 weeks ago. Now the tigers are not worth his time to analyze? And loser is on the call Saturday? Yay

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'


Nov 13, 2024, 7:19 PM
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Then why are we a 10 point favorite on the road to a team that’s 7-2? The sharps know something and are typically not impacted by brands.

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Nov 13, 2024, 8:05 PM
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Like all schools, good or bad.

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Nov 13, 2024, 8:08 PM
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Louisville beat Clemson convincingly? Clemson won every statistical category except the score. Maybe McIlroy should look at Alabama‘s loss to Vanderbuilt, which is a much worse loss than Clemson‘s loss to Louisville. LSU is crap and not a quality win.

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He's doing the Pitt game. We either get a chance to shut him up, or make him


Nov 13, 2024, 8:18 PM
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right. Shut up, Muckleroy.

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Maybe


Nov 13, 2024, 8:42 PM
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UGA and Louisville are much better than Clemson. But reference Penn State and Notre Dame.

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Nov 13, 2024, 8:43 PM
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Homer McElroy is caught up in SEC bias (Finebaums little brother) whil talking about Clemson brand bias... classic.

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Nov 13, 2024, 8:48 PM
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How do you have someone with this mindset which is fine, but do you want him calling a game on which he believes one team sux?

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Nov 13, 2024, 9:22 PM
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Somebody's still butthurt over 44-16....

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Nov 13, 2024, 9:24 PM
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He’s just an SEC homer looking for more spots for 2 & 3 loss SEC teams, and knows Clemson is one of those teams that could take the place of an SEC team because they have a food track record over the last 10+years…If Clemson can win out, they will have added a solid win at Pittsburgh, who are always tough at home, and another solid win against South Carolina, who if you look at their schedule appears to be one of the top teams in the SEC. Carolina lost by 2 pts to Alabama, 3 points to LSU, and is smashing teams right now…Carolinas only rough loss was to an Old Miss team that just smashed Georgia. If Clemson finishes 10-2 they could make a strong case for an at-large bid if they don’t make the ACC championship game, & this is what homers like McElroy are worried about.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'


Nov 13, 2024, 9:25 PM
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He’s just an SEC homer looking for more spots for 2 & 3 loss SEC teams, and knows Clemson is one of those teams that could take the place of an SEC team because they have a food track record over the last 10+years…If Clemson can win out, they will have added a solid win at Pittsburgh, who are always tough at home, and another solid win against South Carolina, who if you look at their schedule appears to be one of the top teams in the SEC. Carolina lost by 2 pts to Alabama, 3 points to LSU, and is smashing teams right now…Carolinas only rough loss was to an Old Miss team that just smashed Georgia. If Clemson finishes 10-2 they could make a strong case for an at-large bid if they don’t make the ACC championship game, & this is what homers like McElroy are worried about.

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Thsi is the same Greg McElroy . . .

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Nov 13, 2024, 10:16 PM
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who picked Virginia Tech to beat Clemson.

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Nov 14, 2024, 12:35 AM
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U Sir R A Despicable deplorable disgusting and downright SEC Homer that I have ever seen I hate it when you call any ACC game on TV. Please dry up and go away like the disgusting weed that you are.
Around up, will do you well

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I'm not clicking on any link to ESPiN because I wouldn't give them them...


Nov 14, 2024, 6:01 AM
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urine if there faces were burning. Their opinions are junk mail, spam or letters from politicians asking for money to help them get reelected.

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I know he gets paid to say stupid things


Nov 14, 2024, 7:39 PM
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but this ###### is ridiculous for even this dolt. And I love Bama QBs. They have been impressive for most of the last 2 decades. Greg can kiss my ###. Twice. 😳

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Nov 15, 2024, 10:46 AM
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Can we request that McElroy never broadcast another Clemson game. He’s a broken record on this subject. Maybe we should recommend him for the committee, knowing that he is not qualified.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst says Clemson is propped up in CFP rankings by 'brand bias'


Nov 15, 2024, 12:26 PM
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So why is this idiot an analyst for Saturdays game? He’s obviously bias.

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