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TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:03 PM
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Orange Immortal [63834]
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of course.
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:06 PM
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You just knew that bye week loss was going to hurt.
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Re: of course.
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:08 PM
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Well, we haven’t looked impressive on paper (for those that don’t watch the games) for the last few games.
We’re an easy target for low info voters that don’t watch the actual games because of the way our coaches coach.
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Legend [7097]
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Re: of course.
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:29 PM
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How do you figure, we are 6-1 with a top 10 offense and anyone who watches the games know the defensive numbers are drug down bc of the backups
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Commissioner [1201]
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Re: of course.
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Oct 27, 2024, 7:12 PM
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Except most of the country and voters are not watching. They just look at the final score and develop an opinion.
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Rival Killer [2618]
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We have a top 10 offense because
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Oct 28, 2024, 11:05 AM
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We’ve played BAD teams (besides UGA). And look what happened against UGA.
Now, we’re not the only ones. Notre Dame skipping us is mind blowing. And SEC or BIG10 teams who barely beat unranked teams at home (looking at you, OSU) don’t drop like ACC teams would.
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Re: of course.
Oct 29, 2024, 9:34 AM
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Sometimes I think Dabo puts backup in too early and it hurts our numbers. Just my thoughts
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Re: of course.
Oct 27, 2024, 10:26 PM
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Not true. We’ve been very impressive on paper in every game since UGA.
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Rock Defender [67]
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Re: of course.
Oct 28, 2024, 1:23 PM
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That’s my thought, though at least I can wrap my head around this week’s AP (in the vicinity of Clemson’s position). In the absence of common opponents, true comparison is hard to quantify but the rankings would line up with a “deservedness” criteria of priority on good wins over bad losses. Of course, voters have their own reasons and you can’t generally count on the poll for much validation or consistency.
Our week 1 loss is far less embarrassing than the losses on the schedules of similarly ranked one-loss teams but those ahead of us do have those ranked wins.
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Re: of course.
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:24 PM
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We didn’t score at all this weekend, so obviously our recent offensive output was just a passing fancy. No pun intended.
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Clemson Sports Icon [59552]
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Re: of course.
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:40 PM
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Yes sir, anybody who didn't think or believe that we would drop out of the top by not winning or losing our bye week just wasn't remembering past history coming out of the bye week!!! Would Bama or any of the top SEC teams drop whatever their ranking was coming out of their bye, why H E L L NO, they usually gain spots!!!
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Varsity [114]
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Re: of course.
Oct 27, 2024, 11:42 PM
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I guess the Open Date won...
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Oculus Spirit [43060]
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I call BS
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:07 PM
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Time to bring back the BCS computer.
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Computer rankings
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:54 PM
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Computer rankings have us at 18th, though.
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Offensive Star [311]
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Re: Computer rankings
Oct 27, 2024, 10:27 PM
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No, they don’t.
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1st Rounder [698]
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They do
Oct 28, 2024, 12:19 PM
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I had to double-check but can confirm again the Colley still has us at 18th, my point was only it wouldn't help more than the ACC being competitive, & the rankings don't matter even a little bit anyway.
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Re: Computer rankings
Oct 29, 2024, 1:55 PM
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Double-checked just to be sure, still at 18th for today is all.
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Orange Beast [6575]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:08 PM
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Game Day Hero [4354]
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Illinois & Mizz got blown out yet are still in
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:11 PM
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And Texas and OSU squeak by and don’t move.
We have a bye week and drop two spots. Make it make sense.
Doesn’t matter in the end. Think the CFP poll will have us in a better spot any way. Win & advance.
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Re: Illinois & Mizz got blown out yet are still in
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:43 PM
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Make it make sense, ok, here you go, ACC drops spots and the SEC gains spot during their bye weeks bc that's the way the voters says it's supposed to work!!!
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Freshman [4]
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Re: Illinois & Mizz got blown out yet are still in
Oct 29, 2024, 9:43 AM
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Rankings are all about the SEC. I figured we would drop on bye week, but not 2 spots. Ridiculous
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Re: Illinois & Mizz got blown out yet are still in
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:48 PM
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Can't tell if your question is serious or not, but without playing ranked opponents, it's been a nightmare for us plenty of times before just today. I am more surprised how we handle it, especially since these rankings literally no longer matter outright & we control our own destiny just as clearly.
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Athletic Dir [1123]
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Re: Illinois & Mizz got blown out yet are still in
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:00 PM
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Ok here is their secret formula.
1. Make initial ranking
2. Move all BIG teams up 3 spots
3 Move all SEC teams up 4 spots
4 Put ranking out to media
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Orange Blooded [2192]
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Re: Illinois & Mizz got blown out yet are still in
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Oct 27, 2024, 5:37 PM
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You forgot 5. Move up ND four spots. The same ND whose loss earlier was to an unranked non power 5 and Clemson’s loss earlier was to at the time #1 UGA who is playing good again.
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Iowa State
Oct 28, 2024, 12:19 PM
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We're still ahead of undefeated Iowa State in these meaningless polls but don't tell them I guess.
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Re: Illinois & Mizz got blown out yet are still in
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:38 AM
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ND lost to Northern Illinois...in North Bend...that by itself should keep ND out of the top 25, let alone the top 10.
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Orange Elite [5413]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:18 PM
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It’s just so tiresome.
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:46 PM
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I just laugh at them when they publicly show just how stupid they truly are...
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:19 PM
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Continuing to hate Dabo Swinney for not going along with the new age of football
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:23 PM
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Haha what!? Yea Dabo not running up the score on a bye week definitely hurt us 🙄. I am the first one to complain about Dabo but that man has done nothing but what's best for the team since UGA game. What exactly do you want the man to do? He put Cade back in last wk after pulling him. He would've NEVER have done that in prior years. He is making a statement this season and ppl still find something to complain about.
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Head Coach [931]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
Oct 27, 2024, 10:52 PM
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You totally misunderstood me. I love what Dabo is doing. I’m saying people in the media hate what he is doing
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Head Coach [944]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
Oct 28, 2024, 8:34 PM
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My bad, I thought you were one of those tools that constantly berate Dabo even when winning. Please accept my apologies. Go Tigers
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:50 PM
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They didn't just start hating Dabo bc of his opinion on the portal, they've been hating Dabo since the day he was named the HC of our Clemson Tigers bc he didn't have to take the same road to becoming a HC as most Head Coaches had to take, and they've resented him ever since!!!
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Offensive Star [311]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
Oct 27, 2024, 10:34 PM
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The coaches aren’t the problem. They ranked us #8.
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Head Coach [944]
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Whelp, that's bye week for you
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:25 PM
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It is absolutely a "what have you done lately" every single week (unless you are Bama, OSU, Mich or UGA). Absolute joke. Glad these rankings don't matter at all.
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Re: Whelp, that's bye week for you
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:53 PM
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It would have been the very same if the committee selections had already started. It's all a joke, and it's always been that way!!!
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I've seen schemes hatched by pets that were more clever, not as obvious and
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:26 PM
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farcical.
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Re: I've seen schemes hatched by pets that were more clever, not as obvious and
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:57 PM
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You and me both have, actually anybody that has ever owned a dog or another pet have witnessed more cleverness than anything they have ever come up with!!!
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National Champion [7875]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:28 PM
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Lol, who keeps thinking a 4-3 South Carolina team should be ranked
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:31 PM
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Out of sight, Out of mind
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:35 PM
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What an absolute reprehensible joke of a poll. BYU is no top ten team. Miami keeps moving up regardless of all their close games against bad teams with their lack of a defense. These voters are braindead and just vote on feelings. Hopefully the cfp committee does not use the trash AP poll as a reference point and starts from scratch instead.
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Clemson Sports Icon [59552]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:59 PM
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Brainless is closer to the truth!!!
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Playmaker [356]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:39 PM
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It’s times like these I hope with all my might that Clemson gets in the All SEC/B1G Tournament and beats the crap out of all of them.
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Clemson Sports Icon [59552]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:02 PM
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If Cade can play against teams with a heart like he's been playing against the powder puff teams, our team could and would hurt their feelings!!!
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Orange Beast [6492]
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AP Poll are the same people behind our current president***
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Re: AP Poll are the same people behind our current president***
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:35 PM
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Can you not give it a break with this sh*t? Go somewhere else if you can't focus on Clemson sports...
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Paw Warrior [4878]
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Re: AP Poll are the same people behind our current president***
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Oct 28, 2024, 7:42 AM
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Look, I think the President and his cackling VP are both idiots too, but what exactly is the point of injecting that into this discussion?
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Dynasty Maker [3415]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:42 PM
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I don't like to live in IF world but what do YOU think would happen IF we were in SEC?
Just curious of course.
Go Tigers! Keep winning!
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:52 PM
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We'd play ranked teams & that would help.
Being in the ACC I still say is a gift in spite of the atrocious competition; with the first-ever rule for getting into the playoff & a league that helps us schedule no bye-week opponents even this year when everyone has two (some have three), I'm thankful for the opportunity in spite of wishing the ACC could give us better competition one of these years so we could better handle things & maybe even have opportunities like the Heisman.
With this schedule, the opportunity is winning the ACC again, that's all, & that's OK!
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 6:59 PM
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We'd have played multiple ranked teams then though is all, & that would be nice, but we can't control the ACC even as much as they help with our schedule in the ACC office. Gotta take what we can get & be thankful for the help to be better prepared later.
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Orange Blooded [2192]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 8:14 PM
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One thing we can control is STOP scheduling these teams like Furman, Wofford, SC State that doesn’t help our SOS.
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:43 PM
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It’s not about any polls, opinions in ranking or what the latest talking head s mention. It’s all about Louisville right now and a focused game plan for Clemson to come out on top. After this then it’s all about the next opponent. When the last regular season game is played then the attention turns to who’s next and what’s next. GO TIGERS
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:04 PM
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This makes our down the stretch games all that more important, and we will have to win out and just maybe we'll be inside the top 10. The most important thing that we all must remember, and that is our Tiger team didn't cause the ACC to be what everybody thinks about it, it has been every team in the ACC but Clemson that has refused to build and keep a really competitive FB program, and it's Clemson who suffers the most from our member school's slackness!!! Anybody who says they would rather we stay in the ACC, it's only bc they're not really into power sports, any level of sports they are ok with as long as the ACC keeps a good academic record, news break, the ACC isn't the only conference that has a good academic record, and the ACC isn't even at the top as far as higher academics!!!
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Dynasty Maker [3415]
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And THEY do not understand opportunity costs very well if at all.***
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:32 PM
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Game Changer [1948]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:46 PM
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Why the AP doesn't matter ...
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:47 PM
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Missouri? Missouri ranked? Why not just put East Carolina, or Louisiana Tech, or Utah State in there at 25?
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 2:51 PM
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The teams ahead of us are very good and it looks like our schedule is being held against us. After we beat Louisville Saturday, we will get more love.
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:27 PM
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To be totally honest, Cade needed the types of teams that we've been playing against to build his confidence. A couple more game like with Georgia up to this point would have broken Cade and he would have never recovered. Cade came in as a 5 star QB, but I think that most of us know that Cade wasn't near the college entry level QB that DW4 or TL16 was coming in as college entry level QB. Cade was a very good HS QB, but he could have easily been broken if he would have chosen one of the better SEC schools coming into college...
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:00 PM
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I agree with clemvol, none of these polls matter.
But think about something. How upset would everyone be if we had Iowa St, or Indiana's record and both of them had our resume, yet they were ranked above us.
We should be 13th. Because everyone would be raising all h e ll because how could we be ranked below a 1 loss team 🤔 and you know I'm right because it used to happen all the time.
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:38 PM
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Clemgalalways you're right, but I will go on to say that if Dabo and Riley don't make it a top project to do whatever has to be done to bring in another DW4/TL16 like QB, we won't be seeing anymore rankings inside the top 5, and if the ranking are all that important to our fan base, we shouldn't be happy unless we are inside of the top 5 bc that's where we need to be to play for and win a national title!!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 27, 2024, 3:34 PM
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Just keep winning. These rankings mean nothing.
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Darn Bye Week Us NIL got the best of us***
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 28, 2024, 8:13 AM
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Had to make room for another SEC team.
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Athletic Dir [1138]
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I get it - Notre Dame, not really.
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Oct 28, 2024, 9:14 AM
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So, Texas A&M moves up 4 spots because of win against LSU. Notre Dame moves up 4 spots because they beat Navy (and previously beat the Texas A&M team that just beat LSU). ok.
I guess the AP voters forgot about the loss to Northern Illinois that have lost 4 of 6 after beating Notre Dame (was not a fluke if you watched the game). Losses to Buffalo, Toledo, Ball State and NC State.
What a crock. I could see ND being ranked 8th if undefeated -but are they completely ignoring the loss to a horrible Northern Illinois team??
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1st Rounder [698]
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But us too
Oct 28, 2024, 12:21 PM
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I hear you, but to your point we had a bad loss to the only ranked team on our schedule & we're still above undefeated Iowa State even in spite of these rankings not mattering at all whatsoever, you know?
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Orange Blooded [2412]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
Oct 28, 2024, 9:20 AM
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Notre Friggin' Dame. I watched their game against Navy and the ND offensive line outweighed the Navy defensive line by what looked like 70 or 80 lbs per man. Navy is a good team when playing the smaller, slower teams of the world, but they were simply outplayed by a bigger, faster team.
No way Notre Dame should be in the top ten. They lost to Northern Illinois for goodness sakes! Clemson lost to Georgia. Then, Clemson gets pushed down the chart by Notre Dame when Notre Dame gives the 'TV affiliated powers-that-be' an excuse to move them up into the top ten so that they can make the playoff and draw TV viewers. Tell me any other way this makes sense. I guess I could claim blue-blood favoritism, but money-chasing is more likely, in my opinion. ok, rant over...
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1st Rounder [698]
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How does it make money though?
Oct 28, 2024, 12:25 PM
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I can't stop the conspiracy stuff, albeit we're ahead of undefeated Iowa State, but how would moving Notre Dame up make writers more money?
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Solid Orange [1382]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:10 PM
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It really comes down to the teams Clemson has beat continuing to lose and be unimpressive. It has to do with strength of schedule. The solution is to not pay any attention to this ranking and focus on beating VT this week. In the end the ACC title trumps all the rankings. Gotta get the title. The end.
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:36 PM
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Can we focus on Louisville first?
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Solid Orange [1382]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
Oct 28, 2024, 1:24 PM
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YES...Them first. Sorry got the schedule mixed up in my mind.
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Ultimate Tiger [37809]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 28, 2024, 12:30 PM
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If we had a tougher schedule we would be in better shape in this regard of dropping or staying the same.
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National Champion [8049]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
Oct 28, 2024, 12:50 PM
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If we had a tougher schedule we would be in better shape in this regard of dropping or staying the same.
I want to agree when I see post like this.
Except; Notre Dame lost to dang on - Northern Illinois at home.
Notre Dame also, went to Kyle Field and beat Texas A&M by 10 points.
LSU has escaped few times and have been lucky to not lose so far.
We'll see if our schedule makes a difference moving forward. Louisville has a winning record and should be ranked. Pitt same story. Maybe VT as well.
SCaR will be a good win(if we handle business that is) just b/c of the patch on their jersey let biased voters tell it.
There is time and more upsets and losses are going to happen. Clemson just needs to control what it can control and come out and play to it's potential. A focused Clemson team beats everyone left in the ACC including Miami, Pitt and SMU.
I think - just like many other times - teams are not giving some of these other schools credit. Thus discrediting what Clemson has done. I think like those other times; history will repeat itself again if Clemson doesn't beat Clemson.
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Offensive Star [334]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
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Oct 28, 2024, 1:30 PM
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Zero. Zero Quality Wins with a complete cupcake schedule (minus game 1).
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Commissioner [1240]
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Re: TNET: Clemson falls out of Top 10 in latest AP Poll
Oct 28, 2024, 2:09 PM
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ESPN induced beauty contest to prop up game matches...TAMU 12th & LSU 8...who were they kidding no fake tiger rushing, WRs had not caught anything since they left Angola, could not stop an ice cream truck, Kelly looks doa!
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Can't wait to play them
Oct 29, 2024, 1:57 PM
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I'm also looking forward to playing at LSU to start the season next year, that way we can show them for real & we'll get our shot.
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