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TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 9:39 AM
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All-TigerNet [5667]
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Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 9:44 AM
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is FSU just throwing out a big payday ?!?
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 9:46 AM
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Worst decision this kid will ever make. What a pansy. He apparently was never Clemson material. Hope he fails miserably at FSU.
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All-TigerNet [5606]
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Geesh, he’s just a kid. Like you never changed your mind
Oct 13, 2022, 9:53 AM
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at that age? I bet you didn’t get the attention and feel the pressure that he has gotten at such a young age. Just let him make his own decisions and figure out this thing called life.
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Tiger Spirit [9493]
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Man, you guys are hammering WT, he's from Woodruff, we
Oct 14, 2022, 9:11 AM
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should be celebrating he has electricity, can read, type and surf the inter webs.
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 10:02 AM
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"hope he fails miserably"???? geez.. get a grip, dude. that's awful to wish such a thing upon another.
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 12:36 PM
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Hate to see that and agree no need to wish failure on anyone. Especially when committing to FSU means you won’t be competing for an ACC championship or a Natty it’s like the failure was already built into the decommitment
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Orange Blooded [2298]
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Grow up.
Oct 13, 2022, 10:23 AM
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He's a kid. You never know what goes into a decision.
Maybe you should concentrate on you.
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 11:06 AM
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C’mon people these are kids we are talking about. Remember when we were 18? The bad decisions we made. Those mistakes we made helped us become good men later in life. At 18 wee you capable of making life altering decisions? None of us were. In every single one of these situations it is not the young man, it is always an alleged grown up pulling the strings, a parent, uncle or close friend. Someone who is thinking of a short term financial gain, most likely that will pad his or her wallet, and not thinking of the young man’s future. Try to remember this young man is no different than our own child and be respectful. Better to have him make this choice now, then for it to happen much later or have him enroll and leave. Let’s be the adults in the room. This bashing of children really isn’t what Clemson gentlemen do.
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 1:49 PM
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While I agree with the comment, I’ve also seen you bashing Clemson players.
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 11:25 AM
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Worst decision this kid will ever make. What a pansy. He apparently was never Clemson material. Hope he fails miserably at FSU.
Go back to FGF with that BS
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 14, 2022, 7:23 AM
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Did you really just call a 17 year old kid a pansy because he decided not to play for your favorite team?
You are trash
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 10:08 AM
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Listening to “The Roar” 95.7 this morning they had a guest on who said Owens is chasing NIL money. So he wouldn’t have lasted long at Clemson anyway not the type of character that fits.
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 10:18 AM
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much better to happen now it will give the coaches time to find a replacement. i doubt any of us know his needs and families needs. he probably has a lot of potential but i agree most likely there is a lot of conditioning work ahead
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 12:08 PM
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Apparently you do coot. This ain’t FGF…
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Re: Is he scared of competition OR
Oct 13, 2022, 11:22 AM
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This is only says Loud and Clear that this kid was never All In, and probably has no clue what All In actually means, and that scream that Dabo and staff are better off without him, than being stuck with him!!!
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 9:48 AM
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Too bad, but oh well.
Finally, our OL depth (and quality) is looking quite good, and this 'good look' includes our younger players across the board.
Glad that he bailed now instead of later.
Good luck to Owens at FSU.
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Dynasty Maker [3132]
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Wow, even his mom is all decked out in Noles gear
Oct 13, 2022, 9:52 AM
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I'm guessing this has been in the works for a while.
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Re: Wow, even his mom is all decked out in Noles gear
Oct 13, 2022, 9:55 AM
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FSU coach has turned into Jimbo Fisher. Buying players like a yard sale. I did have a little respect for him but that is gone now. Time for payback in Tally. Bulletin board stuff.
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Re: Wow, even his mom is all decked out in Noles gear
Oct 13, 2022, 10:08 AM
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Still owes us $300k for travel expenses
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Re: Wow, even his mom is all decked out in Noles gear
Oct 13, 2022, 1:54 PM
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What FSU has always done is use Florida A$M women to provide favors for recruits. It’s been going on for decades especially under so-called Christian Bowden. FSU is every bit as bad as any SEC school which is amusing considering their recent w/l record and the state Jimbo Fisher left that program in.
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Truly Not Worthy of Being a Clemson Man
Oct 13, 2022, 9:55 AM
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if you cannot keep your word, you are not really wanted. We dodged a bad-culture bullet.
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National Champion [7883]
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Need kids who understand what commitment means
Oct 13, 2022, 9:56 AM
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Not chasing a payment
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 9:56 AM
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Honestly he was a 2-3 year project. Needs to recover from torn ACL and reshape his body. Good luck in Tallahassee. We will be fine.
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This is right point ... he is at least 30 pounds overweight.
Oct 13, 2022, 10:31 AM
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And he’s just a HS senior.
Does he have the determination and will power to get to where he needs to be?
This bears watching over the next few seasons.
Meanwhile, we have Dietrich Pennington already on our team and working hard.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 9:58 AM
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The timing couldn't be any better, poaching a team right before a big game lol. Talk about a TOUGH BREAK coming their way Sat night. He'll find out the grass or the $$$ ain't greener on that other side.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 10:53 AM
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Was thinking the same thing. Hope we absolutely embarrass them Saturday. I want to see some lonely book reading.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:46 AM
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Ha! The grass might not be greener, but the money might. I have to believe this is NIL related. I’m glad it happened now as opposed to later.
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Game Day Hero [4512]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 3:41 PM
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It is NIL related and while the $$ could be greener now, it might not be in the long run when it really matters.
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Rival Killer [2896]
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Looks like he's been on a strict diet of
Oct 13, 2022, 10:00 AM
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marshmallows and Twinkies. Good luck at Free Shoes University.
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He’ll be sorry after FSU get demolished at home on Saturday.***
Oct 13, 2022, 10:03 AM
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he doesn't care if FSU loses by 100...as long as he gets $$$***
Oct 13, 2022, 10:12 AM
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Orange Elite [5594]
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Still a kid learning how to make big decisions.
Oct 13, 2022, 10:15 AM
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Let’s give him that, at least!
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110%er [6166]
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He’s bigger than Dietrich Pennington and he’s only in HS
Oct 13, 2022, 10:15 AM
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He’s 365 and will need to lose a ton of weight to play effectively at the college level.
Maybe we told him that and set some expectations?
Or maybe it was all about the money.
Who knows? Just move on.
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Hate to see him go but we are in the world of highest bidders
Oct 13, 2022, 10:18 AM
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Get the players. Hopefully he doesn't regret his decision later but don't come crawling back to Clemson when you realize you screwed up
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 10:22 AM
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He is a kid and kid's change their minds.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 8:08 PM
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He is a kid and kid's change their minds.
Agreed. This thread sounds like sour grapes to me. Let Dabo work his magic and go get a better player. I'd like to see us flirting with a top 5 class at some point.
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Tiger Spirit [9331]
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Good.
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Oct 13, 2022, 10:27 AM
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Better to never show up at all, instead of being a problem later.
If you don’t understand what “commitment” means, then you’re not fit for Clemson anyway.
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Game Changer [1880]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 10:34 AM
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It's unfortunate to lose recruits especially on the O line where we have struggled to field a competitive deep unit. Nevertheless Austin has turned a corner and getting this corrected. I think it will continue. Maybe he's
Intimidated by that monster that just visited who appears physically ready right now to step in at LT.
I often wonder what may be happening in this kids life that we aren't aware of. Is his family struggling financially ? Maybe he's being pressured by his mom trying to make things work in a single parent household.
Most of our hard commits come from a good place with strong family relations.
In any event we will be fine and Austin will continue his recent success
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 10:44 AM
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TCI is reporting that his family is moving closer to Tallahassee and he wants them to be able to come watch him play. Sounds like he may come from a lower socio-economic family. Can't blame him for that.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:45 AM
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Several sites are reporting that. He himself apologized to Clemson and the fans. Stated he loved Clemson and everything it stood for. Wish Tnet staff would do their homework instead of fueling the flames.
He does come from a lower income family and the family has to move. Where he goes will depend on where the family moves. I for one, wish him the very best.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 12:33 PM
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yes he is following where his family moves. Can't blame him for that. I think that is the reason we offered his teammate two weeks ago knowing he might decommit for family reasons. No need to trash the kid.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 17, 2022, 3:13 PM
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Yeah I called BS on the family thing from the beginning, there would be no 2nd thoughts like there is now if that was the case. It would be over and done with.
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Game Changer [1630]
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Were there warnings this decommit was going to happen?
Oct 13, 2022, 10:53 AM
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We got several warnings about Green months ago, and it hasn't even happened yet, but unless I missed something, this came outta nowhere.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:05 AM
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Man, I hate he decommitted. At least it is early enough we may be able to find a replacement.
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the check cleared***
Oct 13, 2022, 11:12 AM
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Ohhh noooo what will we do now…
Oct 13, 2022, 11:28 AM
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We’ll be fine, offense lineman are hard to predict, so we’ll move on to the guy we wanted next and he’ll be a better player because he will stick to his commitments of working out, dieting and etc.
We hope you #75 have a great career wherever you end up! Praying your ACL heals fully and quickly.
We will be in great shape on our offense line for years to come with a new young coach getting better all the time.
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Re: Ohhh noooo what will we do now…
Oct 13, 2022, 11:47 AM
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It is hard for an ACL to hold up under all that pressure from poundage!!!!
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:41 AM
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Better NIL deal or he doesn’t like his chances at playing early on or what?
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:47 AM
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Good luck to you young man. Hope you are in attendance for the Saturday night beat down.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:48 AM
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Those thighs look a little “mushy” anyway….good luck to him.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:55 AM
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Yes, good luck to him and agree, better now than later. Sadly you can expect more and more of this with those chasing NIL money as their number one priority AND they are the same ones that will do it again when things get rough and they can find another easy way out and another payday. Not what Dabo has built his teams with!
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Why would anyone (especially adults) have any problem with
Oct 13, 2022, 11:56 AM
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an 18 yr old kid changing his mind at this point ?
I certainly don't know his situation but I'm sure he is a great kid or Dabo would have never offered him. Let's wish him the best. I think he has a lot of work to do to be ready to play at this level but I wish him no ill will at all.
This could very well be the best thing for him. He may be doing this for family reasons.
Good luck young man.
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Re: Why would anyone (especially adults) have any problem with
Oct 13, 2022, 12:30 PM
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Recruits have plenty of time to decide on their commitment and Dabo never rushes anyone. It really comes down to morals for alot of people reading this article. Any Decommitment is negative publicity and that's exactly what Dabo tries to avoid by telling recruits to be 100% sure and to cancel all remaining visits after giving a verbal. It's a 2 way street on commitments, u won't see Dabo turn away someone who has committed bc he found a better player afterwards. We expect the same level of loyalty from recruits. Clemson nation will be just fine without this kid, wishing him a bright future is optional at this point. It makes me very proud knowing that high character is part of being a Clemson Tiger. Go Tigers!!!
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Re: Why would anyone (especially adults) have any problem with
Oct 13, 2022, 1:10 PM
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You said…,“wishing him a bright future is optional at this point”…then u mentioned high character something something. Yeah, ok.
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Oct 13, 2022, 1:11 PM
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Oct 13, 2022, 11:56 AM
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an 18 yr old kid changing his mind at this point ?
I certainly don't know his situation but I'm sure he is a great kid or Dabo would have never offered him. Let's wish him the best. I think he has a lot of work to do to be ready to play at this level but I wish him no ill will at all.
This could very well be the best thing for him. He may be doing this for family reasons.
Good luck young man.
IF YOU HAVE NOT FIGURED IT OUT BY NOW THERE ARE A LOT OF IDIOTS ON THIS SITE, SADLY.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 11:57 AM
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There is now a spot for someone else ....
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But, is there someone else for the spot?
Oct 13, 2022, 2:52 PM
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We recruit these kids ... get a verbal commitment ... then we stop actively pursuing other guys at that position.
If, after Owens verbally committed, we had found a better prospect and decided not to honor Zechariah's pledge, TNetters would have been up in arms.
Now we’re left sort of holding the bag looking for a replacementnguy for a position we considered filled.
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 12:07 PM
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Its all good! We got a good one coming in with Reed. I am sure Dabo and the staff knew this was coming. Thanks again NIL....
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Oct 13, 2022, 12:11 PM
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I'm reading these "just a kid" comments but everyone knows this is a business now and money is a huge factor. I don't wish him to be football cursed but that type of move is a character flaw in my eyes. Considering the fact he brought up money in his reasoning (gas) makes it pretty obvious what's on his mind. I drive from Orlando to Tiger town all the time, you don't need a plane. He would have surely been making enough money to pay for gas or a plane ticket if he wanted to play at Clemson. I don't buy his reasoning but I don't want any recruit that's not 100% All-In, enjoy free shoes u. Go Tigers!!!
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 12:28 PM
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He prefers Clemson but his family has other thoughts.
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I can promise you....
Oct 13, 2022, 12:48 PM
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If Dabo has the opportunity, he won't call off the dogs in this one. Coaches have known about this so not a surprise, but disappointing none the less
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 1:03 PM
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Maybe this gives us more incentive to beat FSU this weekend. I think it already has potential to be a statement game - letting everyone know who is still the king of the ACC.
Go Tigers! Beat FSU! F S Who?
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Game Changer [1727]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 1:27 PM
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Well at least he gets a bird's eye view of the future beatings he's going to get over the next 4-5 yrs this weekend.
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Game Day Hero [4572]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 1:35 PM
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It opens a spot for another player, it also shows he wasn't committed to Clemson. He will live with his decision and CLEMSON will be CLEMSON!
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Letterman [169]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 1:36 PM
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I’m convinced some of the commenters are South Carolina fans trying to make Clemson fans seem crazy because all the games I’ve been too our fan base has been the nicest people ever
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Orange Blooded [2235]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 2:03 PM
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On3 article..
Owens explains…
He has extended family with Clemson connections- but his immediate family is in the midst of a move and he will be putting his immediate family first in his decision….
He has nothing but good things to say about Clemson….
Seems genuine to me…
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CU Medallion [20426]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 2:01 PM
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From what I have found out it wasn't him decommitting as much as his parents decommitting him.
They really want to shop him around for the biggest NIL deal possible.
He indicated he wanted to stay with the friends he made from current players and recruits at Clemson but his parents will have none of it.
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Mascot [17]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 2:11 PM
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Has there ever been a decommit from CU who subsequently received a CU scholarship?
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Dynasty Maker [3294]
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Playing early must be the priority
Oct 13, 2022, 2:41 PM
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In three years when he is only as good as he is right now, he’ll regret this decision.
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Orange Blooded [2193]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 3:08 PM
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Well I guess FSU was still contacting him even after he already committed to Clemson and I thought NIL might be involved.
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Dynasty Maker [3538]
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Norvell will be gone soon after the season
Oct 13, 2022, 3:14 PM
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and the kid will have to get use to his ""new coach"" _______Good Luck Young Man***
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Paw Warrior [4741]
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He only wanted to face our DL once a year
Oct 13, 2022, 3:16 PM
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He didn't want his candy a$$ handed to him everyday for 4 years. Can't say I blame him. Puddin' pop like that would've gotten beat up and relegated to the practice squad.
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Varsity [135]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 3:19 PM
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I watched him play live earlier the season … Blessed Trinity blew up he and his fellow O Lineman. His QB was running for his life. CU coaches can find better, more athletic O linemen - he’s big but is slow and easily beaten by athletic, quicker DL. Doesn’t move his feet very well
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All-Pro [787]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 4:11 PM
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Galaxy brain move by Dabo to have him de commit and go to Florida State the week of the game in Tallahasee. Just another way to get the boys fired up. Just another example of what makes Dabo great.
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1st Rounder [642]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 13, 2022, 9:16 PM
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It’s really sad that it appears the “adults” in his life have pushed his change of mind. Obviously Dabo and his crew felt the kid had potential otherwise they would not have offered him. Anyway, no hate for the young man but agree it’s probably a mistake on his part.
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Tiger Spirit [9493]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 14, 2022, 9:06 AM
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At least he's honest enough to let Coach know what's going on. Do we have to like it? No, he's a kid, I hope that this is the best decision for he and his family. I just remember a few years ago, we got a recruit from the coots and they were posting garbage like: "I hope he has a career ending injury" or "hope he breaks his leg"
That ain't a good look. Hope we don't become like that.
It stinks to lose a recruit to a competitor, especially FSU, who appears to be cycling in (thanks Toad E.!), but we'll be fine.
Remain calm, all is well.
Message was edited by: 1portroyalty®
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National Champion [8049]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 14, 2022, 11:52 AM
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Until the ink is put on paper!
Come on back!
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Recruit [76]
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Re: TNET: 4-star lineman decommits from Clemson
Oct 14, 2022, 3:03 PM
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He's chasing NIL $. Don't blame the kid tho. If his family is struggling for $ why not go get it and help out his family. Wish him nothing but the best(except one Saturday a year that is).
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