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TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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National Champion [7729]
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:28 PM
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Everything is fine you cry babies!! In Dabo We Trust!!
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:30 PM
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In Dabo you trust, not me, so speak for yourself!
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:32 PM
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It’s sarcasm….
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Re: Sounds like we need to po y up more cash.
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:54 PM
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Problem is dark nil money right now. There is no cap and schools need money to compete. Clemson does not have it. Recruits care about money too’. Clemson says no play next year then we have revenue sharing money. Class is down seven players now?
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funny. His head is blocking the letters ...pensa...
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:29 PM
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COMPENSATED
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We have SERIOUS problems
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:31 PM
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On and off the field.
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Clemson Conqueror [11531]
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:32 PM
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Wes needs to go.
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We need to overhaul the entire recruiting department
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and leave this godforsaken conference! It’s nothing but a liability! There’s no way little old Clemson can ever compete with the deep pocketed schools like the B1G has. And I agree, we need a new D coordinator. His vanilla scheme and personality are hurting us now and in future generations, as evidenced by the massive exodus of decomittments lately!
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Committed until my next higher offer.***
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Dynasty Maker [3140]
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I guess that applies to the OL commitment we just got???
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:39 PM
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guess you don't want him b/c he was previously committed.
Yall ain't doing the thinks very well.
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Re: I guess that applies to the OL commitment we just got???
Dec 1, 2024, 4:45 PM
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However, it appears as though more are leaving than coming.
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As long as Dabosaurus refuses to use the tools
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:34 PM
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All the other schools use… this will be the norm.
Message was edited by: STERLING®
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Playmaker [391]
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Re: As long as Dabosaurus refuses to use the tools
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Dec 1, 2024, 5:20 PM
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These comments always amaze me - we don’t have the money but Dabo doesn’t use the tools he has. So how much money does he have in his tool box that he isn’t using? I would really like to know how much money the posters on this site are putting in the tool box.
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:37 PM
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 3:44 PM
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Losing on the field and our recruits… nice job dabo!
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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You #### people bashing Dabo and the program are ignorant . Look at what all that NIL BS has done for Ole #### and now Michigan is the big spender. Ohio States 22 Mil roster want even be playing in their Conf Championship. Granted Clemson (Dabo needs to adapt and use portal and tweak a few things and he will) Go Pull for Scar , Go pull for Ga - Clemson will be fine when the playing field is level.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:46 PM
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Hope you are correct.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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So now, not only will we not use the portal, we're going to lose recruiting battles from now on as well. Our program is unraveling in front of our effing eyes. Because we won't get with the freaking times! I freaking hate this new version of college football, probably I'm going to get disenchanted with it before too long completely. I think a lot of other people will too. But if this is the new version of college football we either going to play the game or we're going to freaking be a cellar dweller. Getting freaking ridiculous, when's the last time we had 7 decommits in a recruiting cycle? I don't remember.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:46 PM
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Probably never.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
Dec 1, 2024, 8:59 PM
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Not even close when cbv left for Oklahoma. We lost, I think 3 total that year but we gained a better one back in Woodazz. So a net 2. This is different and it was a very small class anyway.
I know we think (and pray) that the new cap will let us compete but I still think there will be "dark nil " as some have said.
But the athletes understand the whole conference realignment issues in addition to the money. Don't think for a minute these high rated kids don't realize the acc is trash.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 6:38 PM
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I have to admit I care less about football since the transfer portal and pay-for-play have exploded. NIL was not supposed to be what it has become. The sport is ruined.
Having said that, this flip doesn't surprise me. He probably wants to play for a competent defensive coordinator.
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:07 PM
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I dont like this more than anyone else, but Clemson doesn't have the cash from big donors these others schools have. As far as the portal goes, I'm sure Dabo will use it as soon as we find the extra 20 million it will take. If we can't get into The SEC or BIG 10 in the next year or 2 we can hang it up.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:20 PM
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Wrong
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 5:06 PM
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Cash itself isn’t the problem.
Clemson’s cash relative to Michigan’s cash is the problem ( in the case involving Mr. Young).
University of MI has far more alumni than Clemson. Given MI’s well deserved historical reputation as a superior school academically and MI’s proximity to high paying, technology oriented, jobs, it is reasonable that MI’s net worth per alumnus is larger than Clemson’s net worth per alumnus.
Not to mention that MI has a much longer history as a top shelf football program than ours.
This all adds up to MI having much more alumni, which in average make more money, and who have a comparable passion to ours for their FB program.
Soooo … tell me again why Clemson has enough cash to outbid MI for a recruit that MI wants and who is willing to be bought.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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All of the information from tbe athletic department and sources close to.tbe program say otherwise. Swinney will not use large cash for unproven high school players. That will not change. He will use tbe additional millions to retain players. Problem is those tbat he is retaining will not be 4/5 star talent. Prepare to be further disappointed. He has pretty much told everyone this and people refuse to hear and believe it. It's Dabo's Clemson we are all just paying for it!
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 5:13 PM
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B.S.
Clemson will go to the wall with any other school to keep Peter Woods, T.J.Parker, Sammy Brown, Wade Woodaz, Aveion Terrell, C.Klubnik, B.Miller, R.Linthicum, H.Sewell, A.Williams, T.J.Moore, and B.Wesco.
This will absorb the lion’s share of NIL funds. Keeping these guys is the foundation upon which the 2025 season’s success depends.
2025 recruiting class is no where near the priority as keeping our existing stars.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
Dec 1, 2024, 9:10 PM
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I could be wrong but I think that's what the other poster just said. Yes, we'll keep those players but the future players will dwindle in talent.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:23 PM
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It doesn't matter anymore. College football is dead.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
Dec 1, 2024, 11:36 PM
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And you are 100% correct. Money has killed college football. So very sad!
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 5:11 PM
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:40 PM
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Michigan has now replaced FSU as my 2nd most hated school.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:44 PM
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Young says he's home. He should be singing, "I'm in the money..."
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:47 PM
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Good school and more money. Might have made a great call.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
Dec 1, 2024, 6:33 PM
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True. But it doesn't help Clemson.
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Clemson Conqueror [11531]
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 4:45 PM
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We didn't want him anyway. He isn't Clemson material. Am I doing it right?
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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7 decommitments haven't been Clemson material. They see a sinking ship.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Everyone should have seen this coming. I have felt from the beginning nil would be the end of us competing for championships and it looks to be for real. Dabo will spend in the portal this year , he will need to find 3 or 4 starters. If I was S brown, P Woods, Klubnick, Moore and Westco I would go into the portal.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 7:13 PM
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Unfortunately, I agree. If I were one of them, I'd see the writing on the wall. Look at our recruiting classes. We already struggle with depth, and our backups are going to be worse. At this point, if you're an elite recruit, you're turning down more money, a better chance at a championship, and better odds at making the NFL by staying with Clemson.
And it seems like Dabo doesn't have a clear plan on how to deal with this. He, and much of the fanbase, seem to be completely confused as to what the revenue sharing plan is, and that it won't do anything to level the playing field. I'd absolutely be trying to see what options I had were I an elite recruit.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
Dec 1, 2024, 5:26 PM
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Sounds like Dabo needs to donate to the 110 society
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How low will we go till we touch bottom.***
Dec 1, 2024, 5:30 PM
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Re: How low will we go till we touch bottom.***
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Oh, we still have 5 Stars and 4 Stars from back when we mattered. I assure you, we can fall a lot further. I'd say 6-6 seasons are most likely in about 2-3 years, sooner if we lose some of our young stars to the portal.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 5:53 PM
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Not all in, don’t want ‘em. Thank you and enjoy Michigan.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 5:56 PM
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Heh, heh, heh………commitment.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
Dec 1, 2024, 5:57 PM
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Screw him.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 6:45 PM
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Let's go Dabo..... start opening the wallet or we are going to being getting beat by that trash in Columbia much more regularly.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 7:04 PM
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I would really like to know Dabo's plan about the recruiting problem.
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 7:24 PM
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Is it not clear he doesn’t have a plan? If he did he would have stopped the bleeding by now.
As I’ve said… it’s going to get much worse before it starts to get better.
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Game Changer [2003]
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
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Dec 1, 2024, 8:00 PM
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Poaching at its finest. But, if you don't play the NIL game could you blame other schools for targeting your so called commits? It's real and its ugly but it is what it is. Better get them now while you can because when revenue sharing begins other schools won't be able to continue their shady business.
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Bye***
Dec 1, 2024, 8:03 PM
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Re: TNET: 4-star defender flips commitment from Clemson to Big Ten school
Dec 1, 2024, 9:15 PM
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Are we officially the first casualty of the NEW world of college football?
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I hate it but
Dec 1, 2024, 9:56 PM
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EFF''EM!! If they decommit from Clemson I hope they sit the bench for 5 years! Go Tigers!!
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Welp***
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