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TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:30 PM
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Orange Elite [5478]
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At minimum, Caldwell has to go…
Oct 23, 2021, 8:33 PM
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At least give us hope that you’re willing to address the most blatantly obvious problem we have on offense.
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All-Conference [414]
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He has to go…
Oct 23, 2021, 9:13 PM
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He can’t recruit for a ### and he either can’t coach or the players don’t listen. Either way he should be the 1st to go.
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: He has to go…
Oct 24, 2021, 1:49 AM
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The 2018 and 2016 teams we had a great offensive line that's one of the main reasons we won 2 National Championships . Since then it has declined significantly , which is why we got beat in the last 2 CFP games. They showed a list of the Coaches that have had the most offensive linemen drafted into the NFL . Nick Saban was at the top and Urban Meyer was on it as well . Brent Venables said tonight that his defense was tired , no wonder when they are on the field all game. We have to be able to control the ball more on offense and that starts up front.
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Solid Orange [1326]
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Re: He has to go…
Oct 27, 2021, 9:03 AM
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Veneable is correct at least. Clemson needs to get a better prepunt team. It has to be mentally draining to know you will be on the field for 75% of the game.
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Game Changer [1672]
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You're naive
Oct 23, 2021, 10:15 PM
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This nepotistic staff refuses to innovate. Alabama's staff innovates and travels thru a turnstile every two years. Alabama wins championships.
If Dabo doesn't innovate, Clemson will fade into the 1990's Clemson. That is a fact.
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 23, 2021, 10:22 PM
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I’m not blind and I can see how the o-line has been a problem for more than just this year. But we had QB, WR and RB talent that overcame the o-line weakness. It’s my opinion and I’m free to have my own opinion. If you don’t like it then block me. I promise you won’t hurt my feelings.
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 23, 2021, 10:33 PM
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"support the team" means wanting what is best for the team - not blind allegiance. And sometimes that means replacing unsuccessful parts of the team. You folks on here who get angry about any constructive criticism baffle me. Every business in America looks for ways to improve. And with coaches getting paid millions of dollars to perform, last I checked this was a business, not a volunteer pop warner team.
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Orange Blooded [2527]
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 23, 2021, 11:55 PM
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I thought it was kids playing a game while going to school.
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Orange Phenom [14406]
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Guess you missed the NIL and Transfer Portal Rin Van Winkle.***
Oct 24, 2021, 12:08 AM
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Trainer [25]
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Re: Guess you missed the NIL and Transfer Portal Rin Van Winkle.***
Oct 25, 2021, 9:30 AM
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Is there a transfer portal for coaches?? just saying.
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 24, 2021, 11:49 AM
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*Sorry? Where have you been the last few years? Love me some college football but it’s about to if hasn’t already become the Small NFL . These young men”kids their age are fighting wars” are pampered, paid and endorsed… see the adds …and for most throw in a free education in the best housing on any campus! Not too much to ask for standards of excellence!
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 27, 2021, 11:02 AM
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Thank you. So often Clemson fans, and southern football fans in general, lose all perspective when it comes to this "game". Let's also dare to raise another issue about southern football. The South's second religion is quick to bury the real lead about the game they idolize: It is extremely violent, brutal in fact. Young men are physically battered, and in many cases their lives are forever scarred by the injuries they sustain in their early years. We don't stop to consider the quality of their lives 20 or 30 years down the road. They endure the punishment and accept the pain, all for our entertainment and vicarious glory. Oh well, I guess we can examine those issues late in life when we're just sitting around the fire at home, nothing better to do. But for now, let the games continue!
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 24, 2021, 2:06 AM
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The difference is those businesses look to professionals to improve. They don't ask people sitting on their couch that have never been a leader in their industry or, more than likely, ever even had a job in it. I own an engineering firm so in order to improve my business I'm going to do what a landscaper, looking at my drawings and has no idea what they're looking at, thinks. ??
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 24, 2021, 4:32 AM
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It's obvious at this point that we need new ideas, new blood on the offensive side of this program. The college game is continually evolving. One cannot expect that running the same old tired plays will work. Other teams' defenses know exactly what the offense is going to do.
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Athletic Dir [1128]
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 24, 2021, 10:18 AM
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And when they don't know our guys drop the ball....literally. Shipley dropped that TD because he tried to catch it against his body instead of with his hands. Seems like he should have been coached to catch with his hands.
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Game Changer [2088]
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 24, 2021, 2:32 PM
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Actually, he missed the ball with his hands and it hit his arms and bounced out. Yep, he should have been coached to catch with his hands and I am sure he was, he just missed it. It happens.
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Fan [31]
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Re: you don't know anything, so either support the team or
Oct 25, 2021, 10:24 AM
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What are you? The local Tigernet Gestapo? LMAO
Take stock:
Offense is ATROCIOUS - that's on the coaching staff.
DJU has ZERO drive - that's on the coaching staff.
OLine has been terrible for years: - that on the coaching staff.
Defense is taking on multiple injuries due to schitty offense - that's on the coaching staff.
Dabo literally refuses to acknowledge what THE ENTIRE NATION can clearly see - that's on the coaching staff.
These are ALL millionaire-coaches.....and they have ZERO answers how why this offense is God-awful.
Taking a shot here, but I'm willing to believe my own eyes and the like-minded opinion of MILLIONS of others.....over yours, alone.
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Re: At minimum, Caldwell has to go…
Oct 24, 2021, 1:40 AM
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The most blatantly obvious problem we have on the offense is the QB position. Full stop.
This staff went to 6 straight playoffs. 6 straight league championships. 2 national titles. They didn't just stop knowing how to coach. Dabo has said this as well. He's been shielding DJ because i suspect the kid is fragile. And we're seeing that now. It sucks, i know. But firing the coaches inst going to fix the bad QB play.
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Athletic Dir [1128]
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Re: At minimum, Caldwell has to go…
Oct 24, 2021, 10:21 AM
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How many of our offensive coaches other than TE and Caldwell coached on the national championship teams? Serious question for the board. Do we have any others?
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All-TigerNet [10825]
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We are running the ball pretty well out of a 3 point
Oct 24, 2021, 1:51 AM
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Stance. It’s the scheme that required them to run block out of a 2 point stance.
I’m not sure if that’s on Caldwell or stubborn leadership …
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Solid Orange [1328]
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Agreed...lots of folks complain about our OL, and
Oct 24, 2021, 1:26 PM
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there are legit complaints, but run blocking in a RPO scheme is just plain different than power run or older option type blocking. You CANNOT get near the push in a two point (which is used alot in RPO offenses) vs three point stance.
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Playmaker [353]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:37 PM
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Seems like when a coach says unequivocally that he is happy with the staff that is when the hammer drops.
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Orange Blooded [2185]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 11:09 PM
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The most naive comment of the night
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Solid Orange [1326]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 27, 2021, 9:29 AM
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It has to be coaching. It's not to say anyone on the staff sucks, but any coaching organization can get stale or too nepotistic to the point where they lose the combined mojo to make a great team. Big coaching changes have to happen. The problems on offense are not sudden. Any casual fan of Clemson knows the problems have been gradually increasing to the collapse of this season.
There's an old joke. There as a farmer that had a female barn cat that was howling mournfully day and night. He complained to a fellow farmer about the cat keeping him up at night. I know what your trouble is. The cat is constipated.
You don't say!. How do I fix it?
Well I use Dulcolax or Mirolax and just force feed it to them.
Good idea, I'll try that.
The next day the farmer came to his friend and his friend asked about the cat. Did you try the laxative?
Yep.
Did it fix the problem?
I'll say it did! Now I need to train the cat to work the field.
Why?
I suppose I should not have given her the whole bottle. Last time I saw here she had two kittens digging, two covering up and another two looking for fresh dirt! A real tiller!
Swinney needs to look for some new kittens (especially ones looking for new dirt) as he has been filling the same hole up over and over and it is beginning to stink.
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Orange Beast [6151]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:38 PM
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TP deserves a better chance than he got.
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110%er [6692]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:40 PM
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He sucks as well.
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Trainer [41]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 9:02 PM
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Don't disagree, pretty pathetic. Would like to see Hunter Helms get a shot ay it.
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Rival Killer [3050]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 11:12 PM
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He sucks too. Need to recruit or get a transfer for a total of 4. It is clear there is no confidence in TP or Helms.
I did not disagree with putting DJ back on as I think he gave us the best chance in that situation.
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Letterman [290]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 1:45 AM
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Yes, correct. TP is not the answer. And maybe people will stop asking for him bc you got to see him again today. He heaved that ball up on 3rd down, ripe for a INT. He has done that multiple times before. SC State game INT this year.
People really need to go back and rewatch GT 2020 and the Spring Game. TP can't throw downfield. He couldnt get a 1st down vs GT in a 70-7 game. He did make better RPO choices and extended plays. Two things DJ cant do.
Hunter Helms is the only one who showed any life vs GT. I think he'll be next up for some game snaps. 3 star walkon.
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Game Changer [2088]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 2:35 PM
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What does one game against a bad team last year mean in this situation? Spring games mean nothing also.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 25, 2021, 9:35 AM
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Coach Swinney says he is 1000% responsible, so do something about it. Talk is cheap!
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Orange Blooded [2594]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 10:09 PM
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I believe TP should get starting reps in practice. Maybe if they played a few series and just see who has the hot hand. Helms should get a shot as well. I know TP moved the ball really well. But now we have a Defense problem. We need to score a lot of points. Or we will end up 6-5 or worse. I don’t understand the lack of urgency. This isn’t a storm. It’s a 5 mile wide asteroid that just hit bedrock in Clemson. I’m sorry, I love Dabo, but heads have to roll after this level decline. We need a elite coordinator. When fans can guess the play, well I bet the opposing coaches can also.
GO TIGERS!!!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 10:48 PM
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All of the quarterbacks on the team need to compete for the job. My worry is we don't have any quarterbacks. They stuck with a starting quarterback that doesn't know how to take care of the ball! As far as the defense goes they are fine. That problem is the offense can't stay on the field longer than a minute!
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 12:12 PM
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You have read my mind!!!! The offense is hopeless for all kinds of reasons I don’t understand and the Defense is totally exhausted! Frankly I am too and been a fan at 72 years as long as I can remember! I’m really sad and to a degree fed up
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Game Changer [2088]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 2:37 PM
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Well, bye. If you are so fed up, it's time to move on and do something else with your life.
Honestly, being fed up after the past few years the Tigers have had is super strange. You must be the biggest fair weather fan on the planet.
Have a nice life.
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Paw Master [17088]
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something has to change because
Oct 23, 2021, 8:39 PM
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what they have been doing isnt working any longer..2018 was the peak with this offense..seems like every year since its been a decline and this season it has just bottomed out
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All-American [581]
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We had the best passing offense in program history last year.
Oct 23, 2021, 8:42 PM
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The issue was the drop off in the rushing game, due to the Oline struggles. I do think we need new blood on the Oline.
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Re: We had the best passing offense in program history last year.***
Oct 23, 2021, 10:56 PM
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Standout [244]
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Re: We had the best passing offense in program history last year.***
Oct 24, 2021, 12:15 PM
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Yep and he left with another year of eligibility… “Thankyou Clemson , Goodbye now …onto the big bucks”
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Paw Warrior [4789]
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Re: We had the best passing offense in program history last year.***
Oct 24, 2021, 12:22 PM
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You really gonna criticize Trevor for going to make money when he has the opportunity? Suppose he stays for a year and gets a severe injury (and with this year's OL, that seems more likely than it would have last year) and never gets drafted.
Get out of here with that take.
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Re: We had the best passing offense in program history last year.***
Oct 24, 2021, 2:39 PM
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You might be a total and absolute hypocrite. Anybody that would turn away from that kind of life changing money is a total and absolute idiot.
You seriously need a #### life.
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Re: We had the best passing offense in program history last year.
Oct 23, 2021, 11:00 PM
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I don't think there is that much wrong with the O line when the QB can stand in the pocket forever and stare down his receivers, overthrow his receivers constantly, and throw pick sixes on a regular basis! It doesn't help that when he does throw a great pass that 15% of the time, the receivers drop the ball.
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Re: something has to change because
Oct 23, 2021, 9:04 PM
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No creativity. Seems like all running plays are just up the middle with few exceptions. We have some great backs that schemes, misdirection plays could be designed around.
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All-Time Great [88992]
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“Everything is under evaluation “ needs to apply to coaches
Oct 23, 2021, 8:41 PM
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and not just players. Hopefully it does.
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110%er [7928]
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He won’t make any changes ….way too stubborn
Oct 23, 2021, 8:43 PM
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To make any changes
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Game Day Hero [4218]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:44 PM
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Therefore, I would, if King, practice a lot throwing the ball and catching the ball …
DJ is the best we got today and given the situation, the goal is to get better getting ready, for next year.
DJ will have real competition for next year
Defense is fine. Ideally, the defense is on the field less than 50% of total game time …
Therefore, the goal now is to become Bowl Eligiable. I would to see Clemson play Coastal … a fun thing in a Bowl, give good ratings
It does not matter, the future is next year.
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Standout [244]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 12:17 PM
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God help us if we have to play Coastal they will eat us for lunch.
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Game Changer [2088]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 2:40 PM
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Like they did Appalachian State?
You are an idiot.
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Top TigerNet [30347]
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Re: This is the type of hubris and insular thinking that
Oct 23, 2021, 8:44 PM
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gets you beat. You must evolve with the game. If not, you lose. Pretty simple.
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All-American [581]
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I don't see where an inability to "evolve with the game"
Oct 23, 2021, 9:00 PM
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has been the reason we aren't playing well. The game didn't suddenly pass us by coming into 2021.
The reasons we are losing are in execution. Yes, coaches are ultimately responsible for execution, but until this season I'd say we've done well. Can't name two teams better than Clemson in the playoff era. If we were blocking, and (consistently) throwing accurately, and if we weren't dropping over 4 key passes per game then we'd be doing well, just like we've become accustomed to.
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Clemson Icon [27047]
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If and If and If... It doesn't work that way.***
Oct 23, 2021, 10:27 PM
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Re: I don't see where an inability to "evolve with the game"
Oct 23, 2021, 11:09 PM
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Who is in charge of making sure the players "execute"? It's pretty lame a bunch of millionaires (let alone dummy Tony) blame a bunch of kids trying to earn their way. Our staff promised one thing and haven't delivered $ h i t. Dont blame 'em for leaving. This is on the Coaches.
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Orange Immortal [64875]
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It would definitely make him easier to ride.***
Oct 24, 2021, 10:27 AM
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:46 PM
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Absolutely not...on renewing my IPTAY memberships while Tony’s making 2 million a year and calling a QB sprint out to the weak side of the field on 3rd in 10 on a a critical drive just as the O was picking up some momentum.
I’m sure being 4-3 will ultimately make the program better, a few years from now. That’s horse chit.
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Game Changer [2088]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 2:42 PM
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Now, that was one play call that actually did make me mad. Most of the time, I laugh at you people and your attacks on play calling, but that was a bone head play on 3rd and 10.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:50 PM
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All I can say is that is really disappointing but not shocking at all.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:51 PM
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Sounds to me like Dabo saw all this coming.
Doesn’t sound or looked concerned. I’m just not a fan of a coach smiling after a loss.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 9:08 PM
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You get paid what he does and you'd smile too. Just shocking he's letting this go this far as he once eluded that Nick had nothing on him.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 10:44 AM
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It has been Dabo's way to wait until the bottom completely falls out before making changes. I was hoping that the third loss occuring just over half the season would have been enough. Think back to what had to happen for him to fire Steele....
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 8:52 PM
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What a bunch of crap.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 25, 2021, 10:09 AM
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Is there a transfer portal for coaches?? just saying.
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If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 23, 2021, 8:55 PM
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under the bus during the season they haven't been paying attention the last 13 years.
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 23, 2021, 9:04 PM
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We had more passes thrown where receivers don’t even turn back to look for the ball today than the last 3 seasons. Looks like the first day of middle school tryouts.
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 23, 2021, 9:04 PM
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I think everyone’s fear is that no coaching changes will be made in the off season. If it’s coach speak to say he’s completely happy with his staff during the season, then make changes after the season, fine. To be happy with them and make no changes will mean more of the same next year. TE, the play calling and the players lack of focus, dropped balls, etc. in the end, comes back to basic coaching. Hopefully he’ll make the needed changes.
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 23, 2021, 10:54 PM
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That is what I am thinking. Dabo has shown that he will fire coaches who underperform. I am going to be shocked if he does not make changes. He can have one bad year. If he has another next season, recruiting is going to suffer. Players want to win and go to the post season. If you think about it, Dabo has gotten everything that he has asked for in facilities. Clemson is totally invested in football. Too much money is being spent to tolerate what has been visible on the field this season.
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 23, 2021, 11:13 PM
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Recruiting is already suffering, I 100% guarantee. You think some scumbag like Lane Kiffin isn't in the ear of anyone we deem as holy enough to play for us (and then transfer)?
We are bleeding out, and it does not seem like there will be a solution anytime soon.
Fire Elliott!! He's an idiot.
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 24, 2021, 2:46 PM
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Recruiting is not suffering, dude. In fact, anybody can look at the program now and see playing time.
Dabo isn't going to say to the press he is going to fire anybody. My gosh, how naive are some of you? You really think he's going to sit in front of the press and say he's going to move on from his OC?
Did he do that in the Orange Bowl after giving up 70 to West Virginia? Nah, he just made the right moves and brought in a real DC.
This uncontrolled whining is way past tiresome.
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I really believe Tony and Caldwell resolve
Oct 24, 2021, 7:12 AM
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themselves. Caldwell is 67, he doesn't need this. Tony probably stayed a year to long. He wont get the type HC job he was shooting for, but he can get one no doubt. Except for this year his resume is impeccable and while many are having a field day burying us, AD's still know what Dabo has built here and that the culture and blueprint works.
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 24, 2021, 12:21 PM
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Although I agree money is the key here, he is already losing recruits. And you won’t be able to make that up next year especially if we continue to lose in this fashion
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 24, 2021, 2:48 PM
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Troll, name one recruit that Clemson is losing. I'll hang up and wait.
The QB from Austin Westlake is secure. Actually, he's probably drooling and seeing an opportunity to play earlier than he thought.
Please use that obviously extra large brain of yours to make an exit now along with the other trolls.
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Re: If anyone is expecting him to throw people
Oct 24, 2021, 2:48 PM
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Who has he thrown under the bus?
You people are full of it.
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Re: Then explain
Oct 23, 2021, 9:01 PM
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3 and 10 and the call is a QB keeper?????? Really????
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Re: Then explain
Oct 23, 2021, 11:15 PM
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Potter is our best offensive weapon, so...makes sense kinda right?
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 9:14 PM
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I don't think a good coach is going to throw his peers under the bus in the middle of a season. I have confidence Dabo knows what the issues are and will make changes in the post season.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 9:28 PM
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Me think changes will be made if changes are needed. Please remember we have a lot of our players out hurt or on covid protocol. Most of our offense line has been out or is out today. Our OL is a patchwork compared to what we have had in the past years. In addition, too many players making mistakes. I, too, don't like losing but it is what it is. Go tigers.
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KISS OF DEATH: The ole 'vote of confidence'
Oct 23, 2021, 9:32 PM
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We will know in January or so if Dabo is delusional or stubborn on these CRITICAL coaching changes. He is the type of guy who will do all he can to further a coaches chances to move on and it would not benefit him to be critical of a guy NOW that he needs to send packing LATER.
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Re: KISS OF DEATH: The ole 'vote of confidence'
Oct 24, 2021, 12:24 PM
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? He’s the head coach if it’s broken FIX IT
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Game Changer [2088]
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Re: KISS OF DEATH: The ole 'vote of confidence'
Oct 24, 2021, 2:50 PM
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TROLL, don't you have some Gamecock site to be on?
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 9:38 PM
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This says it all!
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 10:04 PM
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Well then maybe you should start recruiting better if you’re happy with your coaching staff which is mind boggling to me. Who have not recruited well either. For Clemson not to have a back up great quarterback is just unreal for me to believe. Dabo WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 10:09 PM
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Recruit [93]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 11:16 PM
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Yas! Thank you.
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Pay No Attention And
Oct 23, 2021, 10:11 PM
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put no credence in anything Dabo Swinney says publicly,
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DRad
Oct 23, 2021, 10:37 PM
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How bad does it have to get before DRad gets involved? I don’t know which is why I am asking.
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Re: DRad
Oct 23, 2021, 11:08 PM
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It will have to get a lot worse before DRad gets involved. As of now, Dabo has more power and say so at Clemson than President Clements.
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Re: DRad
Oct 24, 2021, 12:41 AM
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It will have to get a lot worse before DRad gets involved. As of now, Dabo has more power and say so at Clemson than President Clements.
This is about money and the program. I am almost certain the AD is already involved.
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Re: DRad
Oct 24, 2021, 12:41 AM
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It will have to get a lot worse before DRad gets involved. As of now, Dabo has more power and say so at Clemson than President Clements.
This is about money and the program. I am almost certain the AD is already involved.
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Clemson Icon [26732]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 11:18 PM
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That is exactly what he should be saying to the media at this point in time. If he was contemplating coaching changes the last thing he should do is even hint at it at this point in time.
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Game Changer [2088]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 2:52 PM
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It took a Florida State fan to make a comment that actually made sense. Sad.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 23, 2021, 11:22 PM
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One thing that makes Dabo so good is also a flaw - he will not publicly criticize a player or coach in the media and he will often stick with both far too long. You can list your own examples of this. He has fired one OC and one DC to the best of my memory so hopefully he will do that again before we are completely run in the ground and can't recruit anyone. Our last 2 or really QB's made up for the OL and people have talked about this for years, yet here we are.
I'm not sure doing it now will help but it couldn't hurt - but it won't happen I don't think. Everyone needs to be accountable though and that includes taking responsibility which I have not heard anyone do, save for Dabo finally saying he needs to do a better job. What has Caldwell had to say for himself? He was good and a big step up when he started but recruiting and developing an OL has clearly passed him by. Yes, we have more injuries this year but I happened to hear tonight that Notre Dame had gone through 4 left tackles this year and yet they just took USC to the woodshed. That is why you recruit and develop depth.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 7:03 AM
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You either have a short memory or just a selective one. Lyn-J anyone?
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Oct 24, 2021, 12:06 AM
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Lot of immature grown ups in here.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 6:46 AM
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Amen to that.Is football the ONLY thing in life to some people?Will always be a Clemson fan,but I lose interest when everything evolves around money and number of stars a player has.The best thing at Clemson is the state botanical garden.BTW,were these same people fearing losing Elliott as OC a year ago or so?So many people on here are just sore losers and spoiled brats.Get a life people.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 1:35 AM
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Gotta admitted Coach isn’t going to show his hand in terms of his staff, but, I’m calling his bluff! Change is in the air, changes are going to happen and why? I’ll tell you, Clemson fans are already giving up on any possible chance that they may just win out to go to the ACC Championship. They are selling their tickets, they are all sending a message that they want change, period. Look, if Death Valley isn’t full next weekend against Florida State, don’t think the IPTAY Donors/Alumni aren’t going to send Dabo a very loud message, either he changes or they will do it for him. Remember money talks, the garbage walks!
This team for now, I believe can pull it out, with a change at QB (Phumachan, Helms or Wilds), and moving Rencher to slot WR. This team could win out and make it to Charlotte, after that maybe the Peach ?? Bowl, or the Gator ?? Bowl. Look, still a lot of Football left, but at the end of this season, we will see changes.
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Game Changer [1809]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 1:59 AM
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Puma outplayed DJ today without the starter reps in practice. Let’s hope he gets at least an even number of reps to give us a shot at winning next week.
DJ:7 net pts/9 drives
Puma:3 net points/2 drives
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 7:01 AM
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Swinney "DJ has been great the last 2 weeks"
Me: Checks game stats and sees DJ has thrown 1 td in 3 games...
just awful.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 1:34 PM
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Yep yet we got Pollyannas on here who would walk through fire barefoot to call us sore losers and non fans… I guess stats don’t show them the obvious… but far be it from me to pull these people “ out of the rabbit hole”
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 7:21 AM
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How about we start a go-fund-me to buy some STICK-UM gloves for the receiving unit…..dropped passes all over the field .
Go Tigers!
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Standout [244]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 12:30 PM
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Hahaha ?? Love it
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Oct 24, 2021, 7:29 AM
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Didn’t expect a win yesterday. We had to keep Pitt O off the field. Run the ball, eat time. We didn’t.
We can’t give points away. We gave away 21 - the UR call, the burn on 4th down, the shovel pass right to their D lineman, the drops. Should have been a 24 - 13 win.
After the excuses, the plan seems to be Persevere, Stay the course. Because at some point bad will become good? Really? This team is headed to a 6-6 season. Changes MUST be made NOW before recruits and fans abandon the program. The coaches and players who aren’t getting it done have to be replaced by those who will. That is the most important skill of any successful CEO. I’m not sure Dabo has that ability. We shall see.
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Oct 24, 2021, 8:43 AM
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Lot of immature grown ups in here.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 11:17 AM
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Coach Swinney still doesnt quite get it just yet, but given the WF loss, Clemson fans with no one to cheer on in the ACC title and no playoff appearance, maybe he will. Its not for sure though, he is pretty stubborn and may “stay the course” halfway through next season when we have a couple “L’s” and recruits bail on us. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not hating on any of our staff, its just that situations change and sometimes people that once were a good fit just aren’t anymore....we need fresh coaching talent with chips on their shoulders and something to prove to the world...likewise, some of our coaches really need to retire(Caldwell) and others need a fresh perspective and other challenges at other places(Elliot.).
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 24, 2021, 2:58 PM
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In reality, it's probably you that doesn't get it yet. I would imagine Dabo already has a plan in place and moving forward when the season ends, but not now in the middle because that never works, either.
I'm really disappointed in the number of bonehead Clemson fans that are on this site.
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 25, 2021, 10:17 AM
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I'm in with you, westerntigerfan.
If Swinney doesn't have a plan in place by season end, then we the Tiger Nation have more to worry about than 4-3. There is still a chance at a 9-3.
At this point DS needs every breathing sole to be all-in and get a win this weekend. The naysayers and critics are always going to be on here.
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Clemson Sports Icon [59296]
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 26, 2021, 4:56 PM
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Well I guess we better hope TE feelings has been hurt, and he will fine somewhere to go, but in all honesty, I don't think anybody actually wants him!!!
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Oct 26, 2021, 5:26 PM
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The glaring storm is over the lack of offense. You can blame players, injuries, transfers, age, or whatever you wish, but the fact is that this team is ranked 117/130 in total offense. They can't string together enough plays for a single drive due to lack of execution and poor gameplay. I don't even want to go into details but I'll just leave it at finding a new Offensive identity. This downward slide started several years ago not just this year. I watched Lane Kiffin being interviewed this weekend and he talked about molding the system to match the talent and identity of the strengths of the QB and other weapons. In his very first year he took a benched failure of a QB and an offense that averaged 194 passing yards per game, and turned them into the #3 ranked total offense. I see the same thing going on this year at Tennessee. What about Joe Brady and LSU in 2019. And look what Saban did at Alabama. He watched Deshaun go off on him and knew that he had to evolve from his old-school cloud of dust offense.
What did you do after the West Virginia debacle? You went out and found Brent Venables.
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Lol. "This downward slide started several years ago"
Oct 26, 2021, 5:53 PM
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We averaged being the 6th best offense in the country the "last several years", and we have a national championship, a #2 and a #4 finish.
By comparison, Alabama has a #2 finish, no playoffs, and a national championship in the "last several years".
These are the two best teams in the country the "last several years".
In the previous "several years", we were also national champions, #2, and #4. We were also the second best team of those "several years".
The previous two sets of "several years" are identical.
We are having a rough season .. it is not part of any "downward slide".
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Re: TNET: Swinney talks about staff changes, perspective, and the 'storm' Clemson is in
Oct 27, 2021, 8:58 AM
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He keeps saying it is not the staff....what is the other alternative? Its the players? If it is the players then it immediately goes back to the staff. They either sucked at recruiting or sucked at developing players.
My Swinney it always has to be the staff. Recruiting staff or coaching staff. So basically you are just being adept at living in denial or you just don't want to tell the truth.
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Then we're going to be in this rut for a while because we
Oct 28, 2021, 11:13 PM
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have no top level coaches on the offensive side of the ball, none.
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