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TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Yawn
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:19 PM
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My question would be, "Coach, you had 8 months to prepare a game plan and you and your coaching staff are one of the highest paid CFB coaching staffs in the country, so how do you turn out a team that is absolute crap for half of the game? Can you explain exactly how that is done? And how are you going to fix it?
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 11:51 AM
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OC failed againt UGA twice once TCU and once Clemson.
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Hard to Flush when the turds too Massive!
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:15 PM
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Hoping they can steady themselves and prepare for App State. Looking forward to a smaller turd next week in the Valley. Plunger on standby!
Go Tigers!
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Wheres the Valley?
Aug 31, 2024, 8:31 PM
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Pretty sure that’s not the name but because dumbo says it every week the sheep follow.
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Re: Wheres the Valley?
Sep 1, 2024, 10:15 AM
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To be fair we have had "rally in the valley" shirts floating around since the 80s. Go Tigers!!!
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And?
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:11 PM
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Doubt anything is gonna change. Been waiting for years now to have an offense that isn't Iowa 2.0.
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Re: And?
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:13 PM
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Iowa just put up 40 today and the most second half points with 34. Right now would like to be Iowa 1.0.
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Re: And?
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:20 PM
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Well heck, Iowa probably would've scored 6 points against UGA today 😞
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Re: And?
Sep 1, 2024, 11:41 PM
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No sir. Zero points. Meeechigan and Tennessee shut the Hawkeyes out in their last two games of the 2023 season.
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Re: And?
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“Houston……we have a problem” 😩
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Re: And?
Sep 1, 2024, 11:42 PM
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Do the Cougars have any players we can use?
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:12 PM
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And what does that mean that he takes ownership? Nothing changes.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:41 PM
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That’s exactly it. He knows he won’t be held accountable. He can say, “I take complete ownership” and he will collect a huge paycheck, then rinse and repeat.
I’m trying not to sound like a dumb-a-s-s, but it’s getting more and more difficult not to.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 7:47 PM
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Now you're getting it.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:50 PM
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Dabo is out of control and people who believe he is tbe bedt we can do are following his DA lead. Wake up people! He has done great, but it's time to move on. CEO of major corporations rarely see success for 29 years!
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 8:09 PM
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We owe him too much. He’s not going anywhere.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 10:30 AM
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Let me get this straight....u want to fire Dabo after winning two nattys in the last 10 yrs bc we had a 9win season & lost to Georgia? I don't know if we would have won that game with TL16 or DW4. Unfortunately Georgia recruiting has been better than ours, byproduct of 2 more recent nattys. Our qb play has been weak for 3 seasons and the swag of our players is nonexistent. Dabo has hired some good coaches but ultimately our QB play has held us back from winning more championships.
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Taking ownership is one thing, changing things
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:12 PM
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so it doesn't keep happening is another. Might have been playing best team in the country but it doesn't look any different than last year.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:14 PM
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he still made hundreds of thousands of dollars to lose.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:14 PM
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he still made hundreds of thousands of dollars to lose.
You want him gone? I mean seriously?
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:22 PM
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If the team keeps playing like crap, do you want to keep him? At least he admitted what we all saw.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:01 PM
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Exactly! If he won’t prove he’s willing to adapt to what it takes to recruit TRUE top end talent, which at this stage means paying big bucks, he’s not the one to lead a program in this current environment. Plain and simple. Past accolades are great… but that was a different paradigm and if he keeps up his arrogant stance on not changing with the times… yes you have to evaluate ALL possibilities
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:02 PM
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Even the top recruits we have barely saw the field. How do you get top players when they know they're gonna rude the bench behind the likes of Turner and Randall? Why would you want to coke to Clemson if you're a top playmaker?
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 7:54 PM
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Even the top recruits we have barely saw the field. How do you get top players when they know they're gonna rude the bench behind the likes of Turner and Randall? Why would you want to coke to Clemson if you're a top playmaker?
Well how about the engineering degrees they all get in 3 years? That should be worth it.
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They arent getting engineering degrees for the most part.
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:20 PM
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They are mostly getting degrees in communications, human resource development, PRTM, etc.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 8:59 PM
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Even the top recruits we have barely saw the field. How do you get top players when they know they're gonna rude the bench behind the likes of Turner and Randall? Why would you want to coke to Clemson if you're a top playmaker? Well how about the engineering degrees they all get in 3 years? That should be worth it.
"Engineering"...please. these guys aren't going to class or choosing engineering as a major. No major football recruit chooses their school based on academics.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 11:03 PM
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Even the top recruits we have barely saw the field. How do you get top players when they know they're gonna rude the bench behind the likes of Turner and Randall? Why would you want to coke to Clemson if you're a top playmaker? Well how about the engineering degrees they all get in 3 years? That should be worth it. "Engineering"...please. these guys aren't going to class or choosing engineering as a major. No major football recruit chooses their school based on academics.
Exactly. That's why its really NOT college sports any longer.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:14 PM
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So 0 points in the 1st half and that's a win. Wow. Only second half was bad.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:48 PM
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My point too. It was absolutely crap the whole game.
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Dabo has been notoriously bad at preparing his players
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:01 PM
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for season openers. What is wrong with our program?? Why can Georgia stomp us to the curb, but Clemson always suffers a false start in their opener? The whole game was crap. Yeah, defense kept them in the first half, but lack of depth and conditioning showed in second half. “Air Raid” Riley’s offense continues to be Spence 2.0 and more like “raiding” the sideline and behind the line throws. Vanilla, boring, gonna be a long season. Again! I love Clemson so much; it makes me sick that we are so inept! We deserve better than this!
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:14 PM
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Dabo says we had a good first half but we didn't. Sure the score was only 6-0 but we had to scratch and claw with our backs against the wall for 2 straight qtrs to prevent the blowout from occuring sooner. Never ever were we a threat to UGA in that first half
I hope he doesn't actually believe that
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 8:24 AM
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Two first downs
One play (for -1 yard) in UGA territory
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Defense
Aug 31, 2024, 5:17 PM
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saved an abosolute crap 1st half.
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Re: Defense
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:28 PM
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Clemson scored 3 points in a whole game! 3 points, let that sink in, 3 points the whole game.
There is nothing positive, good or even fair that came out of this game and there were no players that deserve any recognition.
The team sucked in all three phases of the game.
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Re: Defense
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:16 PM
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Our freshman field goal kicker hit his only opportunity. That’s improvement from last year. Ha
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Re: Defense
Sep 1, 2024, 11:47 PM
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The special teams, led by Gunn, Swanson, and Heuser, was the only unit that did well.
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Re: Defense
Sep 2, 2024, 12:06 AM
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Hauser.
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No one cares...
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:26 PM
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we've heard that for going on three years now.
Fix it.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:35 PM
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seems like all the teams i watch their wide receivers can get open or have a good play on the ball. I might miss my guess but there is a position coach who will likely be on the hot seat this year and probably out the door if this group doesn't change.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:38 PM
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The same one that had no business coming back this year or sticking around last year? Yeah, he needs to go today. There's probably lots of other "coaches" and "analyst" that can be fired and replaced as well. Tired of the BS clogging up the office spaces.
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:47 PM
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This response can be applied to many departments in many colleges throughout Clemson University. Many faculty and staff have gotten too comfortable. You can blame rampant nepotism, poor leadership, greed, whatever, but it must be fixed.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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I don't think changing position coaches changes the outcome or drastically improves anything. The scheme, mentality, playcalling, everything is below average. That's starts with the head coach.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 5:40 PM
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It is very much on him. He has some soul searching to do. He’s made himself and the fans look like idiots these last few years.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 5:44 PM
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Why can't we get rid of the wide receivers coach ? There is no development with them since Scott left.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:41 PM
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Garrett Riley is a total failure.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 5:43 PM
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Will anyone be watching next week?
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:01 PM
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Yea. A lot of us will still show up at the game and support Clemson football.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 5:51 PM
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Thank you Captain Obvious Swinney. Every win or loss is on you.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 5:57 PM
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Thank goodness we have an easy schedule and avoid playing Miami or GA tech.
Dabo's right, absolute crap in an absolute crap conference.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:08 PM
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Im thinking the game has left him behind as much as I hate to say that but its time for some new blood at Clemson ...if the old rules sill applied we'd be fine but they dont and we aren't ...
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:16 PM
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As has been the case since Trevor, Travis and Tee left, we just don’t have the elite players on offense to compete at the level we used to dominate. Our offensive players would probably set school records at Wake Forest, Virginia, Stanford, yadda yadda. But they aren’t in the same league as the offensive players at the current Top 10 schools. Yes, Dabo should use the portal to fill some holes, but after another game like the one today, not to mention losing four games last year, what great playmaker in the portal (and there aren’t many) would want to join a team that has been in decline for going on four years?
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 6:09 PM
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All the coach speak all the praise about the offense during the offseason leads to this
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I really figured that since Clemson was likely to lose anyway and there was not much negative impact losing to the number one ranked team in the country, the coaches would decide to just let it all hang out, pull out the stops and sling the ball around all day long, figuring that they really didn't have anything to lose and that they might get lucky and surprise Georgia. But it was the same old conservative play calling and mediocre play on offense. I am really disappointed, and I think they threw away a big opportunity to give the team some confidence in themselves and break out of this rut.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 6:26 PM
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I agree!!!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 8:06 PM
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Very well said! They could have let it fly and taken some chances for big plays. But where were those? Nonexistent. Save one or two. They also played so timidly as if they knew the margin for error against UGA was extremely thin. So the players were focused on not making mistakes. And what happens when you focus on not making mistakes? You play slow and make mistakes!
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:19 PM
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UGA is a better team... period.
Dabo has failed his team and Clemson fans by refusing to utilize the transfer portal... period.
Garrett Riley has introduced nothing to the offense and QB position worth even a tenth of his salary... period.
Thank you for taking ownership Dabo. After all, you are the head coach so you own all the successes and failures your teams ever have. Now "own" the steps necessary to climb back up the mountain. If the players are unable to execute the scheme you and your coaches have implemented, use the portal and adjust recruitment to get the right players. If the players are executing the scheme as intended, then the scheme and/or coaches need to be changed and adjusted to optimize the players' abilities.
Go Tigers!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 6:32 PM
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Whatever. Stop defecting your pathetic staff. Another 8-4 season in the way!
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Aug 31, 2024, 6:40 PM
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Coach has A Conundrum...Cade IS Absolutely where he Has Been...Stage Fright🌞
Dabo Has The Gamer And...We Will See🌞
(2) Time Gatorade Player of Year/Best Spring Game🤔
There were No Gamers Today 4 Tigers🌞
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Dabo got an F at school today. Horrible coaching effort. Not worthy of the salary and perks he receives. Cade shouldn’t have seen one snap in the second half. He is not a D1 starting QB. Dabo knows that but has lost his leadership skills to make a change mid game. Not worthy of his $11m salary. Get better fast or resign.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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I have taken ownership - 3 years ago
I have taken ownership - 2 years ago
I have taken ownership - 1 year ago
I have taken ownership - today
Gettng old Dabo
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 8:13 PM
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Uh..Dumbo Swinney... you take ownership of the whole game, team, season...
Otherwise, turn in your keys
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Aug 31, 2024, 8:16 PM
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Our guys think they can beat Georgia but not one of our offensive linemen will sniff the NFL. They don't know what good looks like.
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Campus Hero [13228]
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Subtly blaming the defense. The first half was crap by the offense along
Aug 31, 2024, 9:32 PM
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With the second half.
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All-Pro [756]
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
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Aug 31, 2024, 10:24 PM
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You stopped up the toilet trying to flush this loss!
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1st Rounder [607]
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 12:33 AM
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Talk all you want but I'd rather you do something about it! UGA is no better than the last time we played and we are just further behind every year. Reminds me of Joe Gibbs 2.0 at the Redskins where the game, great as he was before, had clearly passed him by. Saben adapted and continued to win, we have not.
Can it be more clear? Our system of recruiting, developing and roster managerment no longer works.
Adapt or fall to complete oblivion where are one step from already after today.
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Letterman [161]
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 5:29 AM
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If Dabo can't see his Team is self destructing and can't call a time out and re-group, make changes on the fly, then he's got a problem,
Carson Beck even commented in the post interview saying "we saw what they were doing to us defensively" and made changes!!!
So Dabo had a chance to stop the Train Wreck and make changes!!! no excuses and taking ownership way too late after the Train has ran over your AR$$, Same ole' Clemson offense from last year
and the defense got slapped in the mouth in the first half and lost their edge in the second!! So it appears the defense has lost a step from last year!!
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Orange Blooded [2138]
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neff, I'll take the blame for every crap game for 2 mill.
Sep 1, 2024, 7:13 AM
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No need to overpay for an apology backed by the same game plan next week. I got you.
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 9:03 AM
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It wasn’t JUST a crap second half coach. Clemson had two first downs in the first half. TWO. What would you call that?
Clemson hasn’t reached UGAs endzone in 10 straight quarters. 31 drives = 6 points.
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Commissioner [1240]
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 9:35 AM
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That's big of being the head coach and all!
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Commissioner [1240]
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 9:36 AM
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That's big of being the head coach and all!
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Commissioner [1287]
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Re: TNET: Swinney takes ownership of "absolute crap" second half
Sep 1, 2024, 11:48 AM
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Dabo man up and change QB. I am Cade fan but if OC can’t pick plays that work with him then change QB. Clemson HC Dabo needs to wake up got Cade from top Texas HS should have ran Westlake offense would have been rolling by now
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