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TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 12:09 PM
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Oculus Spirit [39232]
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He does speak the truth on this and a lot of folks won't
Dec 15, 2021, 12:30 PM
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want to hear it. Disney for one, the true fantasy masters, will blast him for this.
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Athletic Dir [1169]
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Re: He does speak the truth on this and a lot of folks won't
Dec 15, 2021, 12:41 PM
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Totally agree.... I hate that the idea of the transfer portal ever occurred and that it exist.... I like Dabo's idea of taking the year and then giving it back. As far as NIL goes... 98% won't play in the NFL so college football will be the pay-ground for many players. That being the case I don't have a problem with colleges/ boosters assisting players with NIL. I thing Clemson should be doing the same... Just my 2 cents.
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Re: He does speak the truth on this and a lot of folks won't
Dec 19, 2021, 1:56 PM
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I have always felt like Dabo about the transfer portal, and that is, Kids should be able to change their mind and go somewhere else if that's what they want to do, but not for free, not without consequences of the initial move to the transfer portal. Once entering in the portal, their college eligibility should be frozen for one year of the date they entered the portal, then they have everything they had before entering the portal, and that would help to make a scholarship contract right again bc there were consequences for breaking that contract!!!!
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Orange Immortal [68088]
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Recruits are going to go...
Dec 15, 2021, 12:31 PM
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where they are going to get paid the most.
Recruiting has now become a legalized bidding war.
During in-home visits kids or their parents will be saying, "Here is what we've been offered by ABC University. Can you at least match that if not offer more?"
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Re: You don’t think this is happening already?
Dec 15, 2021, 2:37 PM
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To stop the chaos, this needs to go all the way to contracts. An education would be part of the package. Contracts with non-competes (like most high value jobs) could mostly kill off the portal and de-commitments, and maybe finally rid of us of the ‘bag Man’. It would also likely hasten ‘premier leagues’.
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^^ I concur 110% and its human GREED over Education & Team Sports.
Dec 15, 2021, 12:31 PM
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HellO NFL jr.
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Re: ^^ I concur 110% and its human GREED over Education & Team Sports.
Dec 15, 2021, 2:16 PM
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The people that shoved this no rules portal and NIL down our throats may have had good intentions, but without rules chaos will be the result. The 98% will be hurt beyond repair. I hate this has happened and so few will reap the rewards.
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Re: ^^ I concur 110% and its human GREED over Education & Team Sports.
Dec 15, 2021, 5:13 PM
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Actually, I think the 98% are the ones least hurt. They are getting NIL now and maximizing that by jumping to the highest bidder. In effect, they are minor league players with no major league potential, but maximizing their income while it lasts.
The 2%, on the other hand, when they jump, risk the uncertainty of a new team/staff/league diminishing their major league career.
One last point, these are adults - young adults to be sure, but adults. They are making their own beds. If they choose to ignore the value e of the educational opportunity, that is on them. The NIL and portal do not change that. These are their choices and they need to own them.
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Re: ^^ I concur 110% and its human GREED over Education & Team Sports.
Dec 15, 2021, 5:14 PM
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I believe that there is a hidden agenda behind the destruction of College FB as we know it.
Its beginning to creep into everything we hold sacred..not just sports. Beware and be awake
not woke but look, listen and learn.
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Re: ^^ I concur 110% and its human GREED over Education & Team Sports.
Dec 15, 2021, 5:16 PM
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They didn't have good intentions. They were lawyers backed by billion dollar sports agencies that all want to take 15% of what these "Unfairly exploited unpaid employees" make. Not one thought was given to the welfare of the players and their families.
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Re: ^^ I concur 110% and its human GREED over Education & Team Sports.
Dec 19, 2021, 2:11 PM
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The NIL was forced down the NCAA throats by the court. The courts told the NCAA that they could not stop college athletes from profiting from their Name, Image, or Likeness, and they threaten the NCAA with civil actions if they attempted to stop it... To me, that was the end of control that the NCAA had over college sports. I personally think that the NCAA seriously needed a major overhaul, but IMO, the courts killed the NCAA from governing college sports.
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He's god---- right. It is sad.***
Dec 15, 2021, 12:38 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 12:39 PM
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This man has his head on straight. The cream always rises to the top. Once the dust settles, taking the right stand will elevate Clemson again and again. Grateful for a leader who has the right priorities.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 12:44 PM
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I'm afraid the only way we'll start to see any type of change is if a bunch of players speak out about changes being needed. Obviously a lot of players are using the current system and probably don't see any problems with it. However, I can't imagine that 100% of players are in favor of how things are going. I think it would take hearing from players who enter the portal and maybe don't find a new home. Or players who were promised a bunch of things to transfer that ended up not happening, or players coming forward with how they were being recruited to leave their current school and enter the portal. I think that coupled with players actually coming forward with ideas similar to what Dabo is saying. I think most people will unfortunately take what the coaches are saying as simple complaining.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 1:16 PM
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No. The only thing that stops it are rules. Unfortunately the governing body was more interested in making money than even the players were so we have an absence of integrity and direction. Only when the top 30 schools get tired of poaching and being poached will it stop or slow down with some guidelines. Right now the thirstiest will win the day and there are many parched throats.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 2:24 PM
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I think you and 2003 are both correct. I'm not saying it would have never happened, but it may have been different. It had been talked about. Basketball did start it with the shoe deals. But the below occurences threw gas on the fire. Before, many had discussion on paying players, on NIL and even free transfer. But at least there was some oversight.
Let's think back and remember Justin fields may not have started it, but it became a high profile case that snowballed into every kid should have a choice. It was also fueled further by the virus/riots/blm movement and culminated with Trevor and the we want to play initiatives. Then the players wanted a union and wanted change. In essence they got exactly what they asked for, but with unintended consequences.
No one was going to step up and say no to empowering the student atheletes. Which happens to be mostly black. Then as some stated here correctly, Cali and the general climate authored the NIL. All of a sudden, every state had to adopt or be left behind.
Now, how to go forward. Yes, the students will need to once again speak up and demand more equitable distribution. In addition, the AD's, president, bot's conference commissioners all must put their foot down and say enough. It may require legislation. I hope not, but it might. Jmho.
Last thing, Dabo's statement about high school. To my knowledge, a high school senior can't enter the portal. So it's a zero sum game. The number of atheletes won't change.
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Perfectly said!!***
Dec 15, 2021, 4:40 PM
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Re: The players in the portal who won't land anywhere
Dec 15, 2021, 1:54 PM
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That’s right. The uber -talented players that are going to be high draft picks after 3 years don’t need the portal. They will be 3 year starters wherever they go out of HS. The guys that enter the portal on the hope of getting more playing time and end up losing their scholarships and being left out are the ones who’s experiences will hopefully force change. Just hate it for those who will get caught up in that before change is made.
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Re: The players in the portal who won't land anywhere
Dec 15, 2021, 2:00 PM
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I wonder if all the players in the portal are forfeiting scholarship, or if they lost scholarship. Lotta schools pulling scholarships. Year by year renewal deal.
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Re: The players in the portal who won't land anywhere
Dec 15, 2021, 2:10 PM
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Good point but either way they lose their path to a free education.
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Re: The players in the portal who won't land anywhere
Dec 15, 2021, 2:47 PM
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As soon as a student athlete officially signed the papers and declares for "the portal" or for leaving a school, their scholarship is pulled immediately. So, take Taisun Phommachanh. Let's say no school offers him, so he wants to finish his spring semester classes at Clemson. Yep...you guessed it...he gets a tuition bill.
Now, a school can always chose to allow a player to keep it, but why would they?
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Oculus Spirit [43332]
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Swinney is exactly right.
Dec 15, 2021, 12:53 PM
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The way things are set up now a lot of kids are going to be hurt because education has taken even more of a backseat than it already had. The 98% need an education more than sports because after college their athleticism won’t be paying any bills.
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Re: Swinney is exactly right.
Dec 15, 2021, 12:58 PM
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With NIL money it makes sense the top players dont care about education. Take your millions and you can still get your education after your eligibility is done. Heck by the time their football is over they have made much more than a normal college graduate in their lifetime anyway.
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Class act***
Dec 15, 2021, 12:59 PM
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First of all "education" has been the last thing for a lot
Dec 15, 2021, 12:59 PM
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of both players and coaches for a long long time. Why shouldn't the players get to decide they don't want to play for or attend a college they "committed" to. If a coach can take another job at another school why can't a player?
The one major change I would make would be if a player decides they want to enter the transfer portal in, say October, they should have to withdrawal from that college immediately. If I quit my job I have to leave when my employer says. I can't tell my employer in October that I'm taking a new job but I will be staying on until the end of December... and they need to keep paying me. If you no longer want to play, you can't be enrolled.
If they want their course credit for that term they they should have to pay/reimburse the college for that term. If they leave in the spring term same deal. Good luck finding another school that will take your credits (if you care) and enroll to play the next fall.
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Re: First of all "education" has been the last thing for a lot
Dec 15, 2021, 2:03 PM
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Sorry but is wrong. Colleges have semesters and if a kid decides in October he wants to transfer, he cannot start at another school until January. 97% or so of football players, and probably 99% of Portal players will never be in the NFL and they should lose a semester if they decide to transfer. School should come first for those 97%.
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Orange Blooded [2180]
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So what....
Dec 15, 2021, 2:54 PM
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The players agreed to take a scholarship in return to play football AND follow all the rules to attend school. Now the players get it both ways. They get to finish school, on the schools dime, and then transfer. The rules for the transfer portal should be the same as if a student "quits" school. The scholarship is to play football AND attend college. That's one reason why they put in the Deon Sanders rule. You just can't quit going to school your last semester. Same with the transfer portal. You should not be able to quit football and keep going to school. They made a decision, there are consequences for everyone's decisions....
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Is Dabo accusing Jeff Scott of "tampering" with Clemson
Dec 15, 2021, 1:02 PM
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players?
USF is the school signing most of the Clemson transfer outs right now.
The culture should survive a few coaches leaving for other jobs.
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Orange Phenom [14190]
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I don't think he is pointing the tampering comment at USF
Dec 15, 2021, 1:06 PM
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I think the comment is towards some others that are talking players into jumping into the portal in order to build their rosters. In other words some unscrupulous coaches are probably looking at other team rosters and using that as their recruiting grounds via the portal.
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You can bet Dabo and Jeff talked and Dabo
Dec 15, 2021, 1:23 PM
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had a hand in them going there
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Re: Is Dabo accusing Jeff Scott of "tampering" with Clemson
Dec 15, 2021, 1:57 PM
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He’s probably talking about the type of thing that is openly going on at Texas and likely happening a little more quietly in a lot of other places.
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Re: Is Dabo accusing Jeff Scott of "tampering" with Clemson
Dec 15, 2021, 8:48 PM
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I think the tampering comment was mostly directed at agents who are trying to lure kids to certain schools where they will get more NIL dollars...a large percentage of which ends up in the agent's pockets.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 1:13 PM
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I made a comment on a post last week stating that Dabo is going to have to decide whether he has a interested in continuing to be a College Coach given all the changes. Someone on here said that I must not be paying attention if I thought Dabo would decide not to remain a coach in the new world of college football. How can you read those statements and not understand Dabos dislike of what College Football is or is becoming. He is a man of conviction. He will walk away based on the principle that this is not something he wants to be apart of anymore should he come to that conclusion. He is not a coward either. He will explain exactly what his issue with the game is if it does not change. I hope some guardrails get put in place or Dabo decides he is willing to play the game. Otherwise, we will be in the Head Coach market in a couple of years.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 1:26 PM
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You are spot on! I remember when Dabo talked about this very thing that is happening now with the paying players, he said it loud and clear. If College Football turned into the NFL, then he’d either go Coach in the NFL, or resign. In fact that’s why Steve Spurrier didn’t like the NIL, and he Coached the NFL, saw what money does to players, teams, and Coaches, and the sport, makes no fun. You’re right, unless this turns around Coaches like Dabo are going to walk away. Heck, the way it’s looking I personally would rather Coach High School, than to put up with this garbage.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 9:03 PM
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Perhaps a big part of the solution would be for the NFL to start drafting these young men right out of high school. That way the 2 percent will get their wish and the other 98 percent will realize that college is their only opportunity and do it (play) for the education. Why should a 5-star have to waste 3 years in college if he's convinced he's that good and the NFL scouts/teams agree. I say if their only reason for going to college is to make it to the League, let'em go.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 1:16 PM
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Dabo is spot on with all this chaos going on right now in College Football. This NIL and Transfer portal has rapidly turned College into the NDFL (National Developmental Football League). No longer about going to school for an education and the opportunity to play on the college level, as well as “GRADUATE WITH A DEGREE”. Nope, thanks to all this big investors and gambling addicted morons, they have destroyed what it truly meant to be a College Athlete. Dabo is right it’s sad, zero accountability and zero consequences to what is being allowed to happen. ESPN/Disney and politics fueled this, as well as absent minded idiots promising kids an NFL future in hand with the NIL, baloney. They all need to sit down as Coaches, AD’s, and School Presidents and discuss how the transfer portal should relate with education only, as well as retooling the NIL to benefit more the athletes education and a stipend vs NFL money at this point in their lives. Something has got to be done or college football is going to become so one sided it will ruin it for those who love the game, see as a chance to have fun while in College, to build relationships with Coaches, current and former players, as well as show casing off the field the leadership skills that have been sharpened for in the classroom and in life. 1.7% of College Football players will go pro, sad thing about that is, out the 1.7% not all of them make it on to a roaster nor practice squad. That 98% should be 99%, so now just how much more valuable does that hard earned College Education Degree look now vs being in limbo with no job, no degree, no more NIL, transferred more times than spent in a classroom, how does the future really look now. It has to end!
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West Coast liberal policies….
Dec 15, 2021, 1:20 PM
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NIL started in CA with a bunch of schlitty basketball players who WERENT going pro, saw no value in an education and instead gave lawyers and the liberal politicians a paycheck and a vote in return for turning half-ass athletes into paid, half-ass athletes.
NIL should be banned by the conferences. Let the PAC-12 pay players for going to their dumpy athletic programs if they want. West coast football is cheeks, anyway.
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Re: West Coast liberal policies….
Dec 15, 2021, 1:25 PM
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Each individual state passes their own NIL laws. Every state is different. And every states NIL law I have seen so far has made it illegal for any conference or school to limit a players NIL. Nothing is changing unless the government steps in or players form a union and strike. A 70,000 seat stadium at 150 dollars a ticket is over a 10 million dollar loss. I can't imagine schools letting that go on more than a few weeks before they change the laws again.
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Re: West Coast liberal policies….
Dec 15, 2021, 2:15 PM
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And endorsed by the current ultra liberal supreme court with the opinion being written by well known left leaning Neil Gorsuch who said, "The NCAA's business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America."
Maybe, just maybe, peoples political leaning had nothing to do with this and instead it is related to a bunch of greedy ### people making billions off of others while refusing to allow those folks to share in that profit?
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West Coast liberal policies….
Dec 15, 2021, 1:20 PM
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NIL started in CA with a bunch of schlitty basketball players who WERENT going pro, saw no value in an education and instead gave lawyers and the liberal politicians a paycheck and a vote in return for turning half-ass athletes into paid, half-ass athletes.
NIL should be banned by the conferences. Let the PAC-12 pay players for going to their dumpy athletic programs if they want. West coast football is cheeks, anyway.
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The LOVE of $$ is the root of all evil
Dec 15, 2021, 1:28 PM
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The Apostle Paul said this and it rings true more today than ever. The NIL is a "pay for play" cancer and one of the worst things to ever happen to college football. It likely creates GREED and distracts from the goals of getting a good education. I consider money itself as a necessary evil. Outside of scholarships it should never be used to influence any amateur player in any sport. Dabo is also spot on about the transfer portal...
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 1:31 PM
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I hate to see my favorite sport to watch at least spiraling down hill. About like the country right now unfortunately. Sad.
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 1:48 PM
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Football is a big business and coaches earn far more than the CEO's of many major businesses. Dabo is 100% correct that football players are students and I have said before, the portal has to be tied to education. What we have is hundreds of kids that could have had college degrees but because of the it's all about me world of the portal will likely never get them. The sad thing is when they interview for a job, nobody will care that the kid was a make believe 3 Star recruit.
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While I agree with Dabo's stance........
Dec 15, 2021, 1:49 PM
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the recruits and some players will 100% disagree with his stance.................it'll only hurt clemson
it's a different world and a different type of kid in College Football now.
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Re: While I agree with Dabo's stance........
Dec 15, 2021, 2:09 PM
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Of course they will disagree. Because they are kids being fed a bunch of BS about getting into the NFL and making a huge amount of NIL money by adults just trying to rent their talents. And you can’t blame the kids for this. This is the tampering Dabo is referring to. Too many people in positions of influence and power care more about their own wallets than they do any kid’s future. Unfortunately I think Dabo is in the minority among people in that group because he really does care about the future of these student athletes. And as Striper said in an earlier post, it’s not going to change until people start to see the damage it is doing to these young people after some of them go through this process and basically lose everything. Then the word may start to get out among the recruits and players that this isn’t always a good thing for them. As most things - it isn’t the kid’s fault - it’s the greedy adults.
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There is more to Clemson football than football.***
Dec 15, 2021, 1:53 PM
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Re: There is more to Clemson football than football.***
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Selena like Dabo has it figured out. Maybe he should run for head of NCAA
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Orange Blooded [2535]
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Re: There is more to Clemson football than football.***
Dec 15, 2021, 2:03 PM
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Seems like …. Hate spell check.
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Playmaker [367]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 2:28 PM
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The truth of this with High School and college athletes is Dabo's allusion to the "Man in the Mirror". It reminds me that "Wherever You Go, There You Are". If you are constantly looking outside yourself for happiness (More money, more attention, someone to validate your greatness) you will constantly be brought up short and disappointed because you only deal with you. Your perceived problems are not solved by a "grass is greener somewhere else" approach. As Dabo so sagely opined, "The Man In The Mirror" goes with you!!!!
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Rock Defender [51]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 3:22 PM
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Very good points from Coach - education and relationships will last a lifetime. Hope these kids start seeing that the portal could be fools gold for so many.
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Tiger Cub [13]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 3:55 PM
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Sounds like a laundry list of excuses. The same rules apply to every school. If you don't wish to take advantage of them then you'll just suck.
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Tiger Cub [13]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 3:59 PM
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It's also mind boggling hypocrisy for a man that gets paid over 8 million a year to stand up there and say all of that. RIP Clemson football
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Orange Blooded [2723]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 3:58 PM
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Funny how Bama,Georgia, Ohio st are handling the exact same situation and not signing 12 player classes while signing the best players out of the portal.
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Orange Blooded [2263]
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You don’t think those schools are abusing NIL?
Dec 15, 2021, 5:33 PM
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Buy anyone you can- no consequences. If that is what it takes to win, count me out. Thank goodness Dabo will not play that game.
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Rival Killer [2745]
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Waiting to hear from all the whiny ace babies here who were in favor of these changes
Dec 15, 2021, 4:37 PM
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Dabo, along with many on this forum, are exactly right - the portal and NIL are quickly killing college football. It’s the “get rich quick” crowd. No rules. No accountability. No decency. The grass isn’t always greener. You want no laws/no enforcement you far left sheep? Well, here you go. On one hand I’m sad as a college football fan, on the other I’m happy that these kids and their families who want to take short cuts will end up suffering in the end.
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Letterman [185]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 5:06 PM
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Somewhat inelegant prose, but Dabo has it sized up pretty well. Just think of 15% more athletes in the portal than are on all the NFL playing squads.
It is especially hard to play by rules way higher than those of some of your competitors. There are consequences from that as well. All in all, more pressure on Dabo to produce results similar to what we have been accustomed to seeing, but in a more difficult environment.
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Standout [302]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 9:14 PM
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Seems to me I read somewhere that schools have until May 1 to sign a player in the portal. I'm guessing that most of the good ones will be gone within a week after National Signing Day in February. Will be interesting to see how many are left in the portal come May 1...with no school nor scholarship!
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Clemson Icon [27787]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 15, 2021, 10:07 PM
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He is spot on. He said exactly what Lane Kiffin said, just in a more "professional" way.
I think the signing of Travis Hunter to Jackson State sent shockwaves felt in coaches offices throughout the country, not just in Tallahassee.
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Orange Blooded [2229]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 16, 2021, 8:14 AM
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Hate to be a "doom and gloom" guy, but this is the beginning of the end of college athletics. Smaller college football programs across the country will start to struggle, people will lose interest and the loss of revenue will cascade into the lesser sports too, thereby ending them. Sprinkle in some trans-gender idiocy(see the "lady" at Penn beating longstanding conference swimming records by 30+ seconds) and I can just feel my interest in college athletics draining away from me. (And exactly what many people were hoping for). Sorry, but I am not going to continue to spend thousands of dollars every year hoping we can maybe, possibly "steal" a win from UNC and be able to "hang" with ATM or GA. I've lived through those years already and I really don't want to return to them. I've got other hobbies to focus on. ANd I won't blame Dabo one bit if he decides he is done too. It won't happen overnight or even next year, but it WILL happen barring something truly radical on the legal front. CLemson will someday be remembered as the last "small" school to win a college football NC doing it the old-fashioned way - when academics actually mattered. Thank you Dabo for that. Glad I was in Tampa to see us win it all in person. But the genie is out of the bottle, the NCAA has officially left the building and we're on the outside looking in - for mostly the right reasons - but still outside.
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All-Pro [789]
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Coaches Salaries
Dec 16, 2021, 11:16 AM
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Anyone see the inequity of coaches salaries paid based on the results the players produce? So if Dabo is getting paid 9 million per year what should an average first string player make? What about a top tier player like Trevor? The outlandish coaches salaries with the players getting nothing but a free education and room and board was unfair IMO. Current system is also a mess. In a perfect world the coaches would take a 50% pay cut and the money would be equitably distributed to the players. Impossible to do but outlandish coaches salaries simply fueled the fire. Sometimes folks can't see the forest for the trees.
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Orange Blooded [2535]
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Re: TNET: Swinney says "really bad" unintended consequences wreaking havoc in 2022 recruiting
Dec 19, 2021, 2:03 PM
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Cheating is now legal it seems.
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