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TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:01 AM
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It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
We've been having a lot of fun (it is downtime for football, after all) looking at the possibilities for Clemson’s 2021 football schedule and it has led me to the same conclusion that a lot of folks around the country have, and that’s that the ACC should move to a 10-game conference schedule or at the very least consider a nine-game schedule. Full Story » |
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:16 AM
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hope that pitt game is a little earlier in the year. it will be our big away trip next fall. have not ever been to pittsburgh
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The downtown area near the stadium is nice...
Jan 26, 2021, 8:29 AM
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A lot of bars and restaurant type places.
Depending upon the time of year the game is scheduled, you might even get to take-in a Pirates and/or Steelers game as well.
There's also a casino and the Andy Warhol museum.
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Re: The downtown area near the stadium is nice...
Jan 26, 2021, 9:12 AM
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thanks may ask for that info later. lol
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:59 AM
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I've really enjoyed Pittsburgh when I've been there and I am not even a big partier since I gave up drinking a long time ago. I gave it up when my grandson was born in Greenville because it was getting out of hand and I wanted to live long enough to see him grow up.
But, yeah, Pittsburgh is pretty cool. I hope Covid is over with by then.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:18 AM
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Notre Dame will not join if you have 11 conference games. I do not want 11 conference games. I am good with 8 to 10 conference games. I want SC and another quality opponent like UGa this season.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 9:28 AM
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well good. they need to fish or cut bait. our incessant catering to them is ridiculous
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 2:50 PM
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We need 9 ACC schools with 2 floaters rather than just 1.
Drop SC State and Wofford, add Coastal to the SC school rotation.
Get the good Georgia/TAMU/Auburn/LSU type games along with Notre Dame.
Some of the games are tough to watch like SC State even in Death Valley.
The Spring game is better.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:26 AM
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Maybe I'm alone in this but, seeing the momentum the Sun Belt generated in 2020, why wouldn't App State or Troy "Move the Meter"? Look at the buzz the SBC generated after going 3-0 in week 1 against the Big XII (yes...I know, it's the BIG XII) and Coastal stayed in the news all season. Each of those schools benefited greatly from ESPN TV exposure. Both are about a 4-ish hour drive. Their fans would travel. Capitalize on that momentum. Again, maybe I'm alone in this
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DH has obviously given this more thought than the ACC...
Jan 26, 2021, 8:31 AM
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One big problem is, football is not a priority for the ACC.
Never has been and probably never will be.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:37 AM
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I disagree here. I think it needs to stay exactly like it is , at most one more conference game. I do not want to give up a cupcake game (live scrimmage), South Carolina beat down, and the ability to schedule a quality opponent. That’s just me. I care nothing about ever playing at Pitt.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:51 AM
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I agree with the idea of adding more conference games. I think 9 would be good so no team would ever finish with a 500 record in conference. Have your 9 conference, Carolina game, and prime OOC power 5 game, and schedule a group of 5 team. With this it does away with the in state FCS which as a season ticket holder does not bring the excitement on a fall gameday. What do you think if the spring game was a game for the FCS opponent and charge admission($25/ticket) and all proceeds off gate entry go to that institution? In my opinion it'd make the spring game more interesting and possibly give fans another better game than a fall FCS opponent.
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I am actually happy that we play Auburn more than we play
Jan 26, 2021, 8:52 AM
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Duke.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:53 AM
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I think Clemson needs to give the ACC an ultimatum. Expand and add a couple good football schools or look at 1) starting up another conference or 2) joining another existing one.
The ACC is full of perennial losers, and expanding to play more of them just weakens our image to the outside world.
P. S. We don’t have to schedule East Popcorn State every year. Substituting another strong out of conference game would present a little risk but the reward might outweigh the risk.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:53 AM
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I think Clemson needs to give the ACC an ultimatum. Expand and add a couple good football schools or look at 1) starting up another conference or 2) joining another existing one.
The ACC is full of perennial losers, and expanding to play more of them just weakens our image to the outside world.
P. S. We don’t have to schedule East Popcorn State every year. Substituting another strong out of conference game would present a little risk but the reward might outweigh the risk.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 9:09 AM
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Yeah, good luck with that. First of all, who are you going to add besides a possible Notre Dame who really fits more with the Big 10? What good football schools? Georgia isn't leaving the SEC.
Then, what conference are you going to jump to? The SEC? The Big 10? The Big 12? None of those would be that attractive of an option in my opinion. The Big 10 makes no sense and neither does the Big 12 and the SEC is cheaters ville led by Alabama and Alabama will always be king.
What needs to happen is schools like FSU, Miami, UNC and others need to get their crap together and field some better football programs. The ACC is the best league of all time in basketball, why not make it about football, too? There's plenty of available talent in Florida and in the Carolinas particularly the Northern version of Carolina and in Virginia and other states like New Jersey and Pennsylvania if they can keep the SEC from stealing it all.
Jumping ship is a bad idea. Ask Nebraska or Colorado. Sure, it's worked out all right for some like Missouri and maybe the Aggys of Texas A$M, but those two were also rans in the Big 12, too.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 9:55 AM
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Notre Dame has no tie to the Big 10. That ship has sailed.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 11:50 AM
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I think he was talking geographically. You know, kinda unlike Syracuse and Louisville's proximity to the Atlantic Coast...lol.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 11:14 AM
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Gotta get outside the box. Start up a league. It could happen. Oh, by the way, have you looked at the ACC basketball’s position in the national rankings? ACC bb has been slipping too.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 11:35 AM
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I'd rather watch ACC basketball than SEC or maybe even Big 10 any night of the week. The history is worth a watch in and of itself. You can't beat UNC vs Duke. Isn't Virginia the reigning NCAA champion? I wouldn't call that slipping.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 8:55 AM
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The Athletic Department needs to push for whatever makes the home schedule most appealing. Next years home schedule is pathetic, and while for the most part not Clemsons fault, games against the Woffords of the world have to go. Tickets cost too much nowadays to justify watching 4th stringers run around playing bad football against S.Carolina State in the 2nd qtr.
Move to 9 game conference schedule, S.Carolina, another Power 5 opponent along with a Conference USA or Sun Belt or Mountain West team.
It is going to get harder and harder to fill stadiums in the future, and while a few of you will go watch Clemson play any patsy on the schedule, that will not attract new attendees to games. As the older generation stops going to games, better figure out how to get the 28 year old couple with 2 children to also want to show up
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 9:51 AM
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Meh, I'd rather see those 4th stringers playing a local school than to see a meaningless game against a Group of 5 team that has no connection.
As a 34 year old with 2 kids, the big games are the less attractive ones to bring your kids. Getting 4 tickets for the expensive games, sitting in more traffic with those two kids and having the game not kick off until 8:15 isn't appealing to that demographic. We hold season tickets but the only games we currently go to are the ones at 12 or 3:30 that we won't be sitting in traffic at 1am to leave.
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These other teams in the conference need to get some better
Jan 26, 2021, 9:07 AM
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coaches on staff. The reason the ACC lacks in competition is that recruiting is bad. The noles picked up a MAC coach. Doeren is a from Northern Illinois, Fuente is another Memphis coach.. i mean.. there are no fire brands other than Brian Kelly, Mack Brown and Dabo but Notre Dame isn't really a member.
BAck when you had Jimbo, Petrino, Beamer, Tom Obrien, Cutcliffe, Richt, Dabo there was a dedication to football. You had some really good teams and really good players coming out of our Conference. IS it just money? Teams in our conference wont' pay for coaches anymore? Mack Brown was a lift but i can't imagine he's looking to be there very long. I see him as a bridge to help get them back to competitive. Which he's doing. But i can't imagine the Noles are going to get back to what they were. Or Miami. Or Vtech, or Louisville.... And we whine and complain about Dabo when we only win by two touchdowns sometimes so who knows how long he will stick around either.
I just see our trajectory and our conference trajectory getting worse in football. There are 3 teams/Schools that are taking football seriously and the rest are just working for a paycheck.
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Re: These other teams in the conference need to get some better
Jan 5, 2021, 4:54 PM
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True, but as a Texan, also good luck getting better coaches. Texas Longhorns fired their coach and had to hire an assistant coach from Alabama. They all think they can hire some NFL coach or Urban Meyer or in year's past that bozo Jon Gruden. Better coaches don't grow on trees and look at Dabo. Notre Dame hired a coach from Cincinnati and he's not perfect, but has been decent for them.
You aren't going to steal Nick Saban from Alabama, or a head coach from an SEC school to come to Pittsburgh or Boston College. Just not happening.
Bobby Bowden came from West Virginia. Mack Brown coached at Tulane before being hired by UNC and then Texas. They mostly start in the MAC or some other smaller school before making it big.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 9:16 AM
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The schedule is not the problem it’s the stupidity of 14 team conferences. These are nothing more than loosely cobbled together TV markets with near zero regional similarities or histories binding them together with any interests. Texas started all this crap and pretty much ruined the conference models where half of each conference doesn’t even belong. Blow it up and start over instead of trying to make this crapfest more attractive.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 11:34 AM
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Realistically, if the playoffs goes to 8 or more teams, conferences will either have to have less conference games, or break up into smaller conferences. My reasoning is that you are starting to see these kids playing more and more games per season. We all know the physical toll the current schedule takes. I believe one of the reasons we lost to ohst this year has to do with the disparity in number of games played. If you increase the number of playoff games, you are increasing the number of overall games. I believe you have to take away some of the regular season games to do this. Cut down conferences to 8, have some ooc games that are important, and then have 8 or 16 team playoff. I also think that would be more exciting than seeing 3-8 miss st vs 10-2 tulane in the toilet bowl. And who thought it would be a good idea to put USuC in a bowl game this year? Beyond stupid.....
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 11:35 AM
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Realistically, if the playoffs goes to 8 or more teams, conferences will either have to have less conference games, or break up into smaller conferences. My reasoning is that you are starting to see these kids playing more and more games per season. We all know the physical toll the current schedule takes. I believe one of the reasons we lost to ohst this year has to do with the disparity in number of games played. If you increase the number of playoff games, you are increasing the number of overall games. I believe you have to take away some of the regular season games to do this. Cut down conferences to 8, have some ooc games that are important, and then have 8 or 16 team playoff. I also think that would be more exciting than seeing 3-8 miss st vs 10-2 tulane in the toilet bowl. And who thought it would be a good idea to put USuC in a bowl game this year? Beyond stupid.....
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 11:35 AM
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Realistically, if the playoffs goes to 8 or more teams, conferences will either have to have less conference games, or break up into smaller conferences. My reasoning is that you are starting to see these kids playing more and more games per season. We all know the physical toll the current schedule takes. I believe one of the reasons we lost to ohst this year has to do with the disparity in number of games played. If you increase the number of playoff games, you are increasing the number of overall games. I believe you have to take away some of the regular season games to do this. Cut down conferences to 8, have some ooc games that are important, and then have 8 or 16 team playoff. I also think that would be more exciting than seeing 3-8 miss st vs 10-2 tulane in the toilet bowl. And who thought it would be a good idea to put USuC in a bowl game this year? Beyond stupid.....
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No Way 10 ACC Games is better!
Jan 26, 2021, 9:30 AM
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The ACC has a long way to go before 10 conference games looks attractive. Frankly, I'm just excited to see us pummel a Citadel as I am to see us play an Duke, Wake Forest, Pitt, or Syracuse.
I've proposed an 8 game conference schedule that gets you playing at every other teams stadium once every 4 years. That process is easy to solve. You eliminate the divisions, each team gets 3 regular opponents, and you flip flop the other 10 teams in 5 games each year. This gets you a home and home with every team in the conference each 4 year cycle. This also eliminates the issue of having one division that is just far superior(i.e. Atlantic Division when Clemson, FSU and Louisville were all good.)
I could get behind 9 games but with 10 conference games it'll still be very stagnant playing the same teams year in and year out, particularly if they don't get better.
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Yep. This here.***
Jan 26, 2021, 11:55 AM
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 9:47 AM
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I can't think of anything worse than two more boring ACC opponents on the schedule and less variety. Don't understand our own people wanting this when Clemson along with GT and FSU are the ones who fought against the 9 game conference schedule so they could keep scheduling their instate rival from the SEC along with another quality P5 non conference opponent. I get teams like VT and Syracuse complaining about it because they don't have in state rivals from the SEC and have had problems scheduling one good non conference P5 opponent each year. Imagine trading UGA for a game against Duke, Pitt or UVA this year. Heck NO!
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 9:53 AM
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An expanded ACC schedule makes no sense unless somehow we play Notre Dame every year. What we need is a stronger schedule and playing another or 2 ACC team will not help that.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 10:04 AM
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I wish now we could get rid of the Notre Dame requirement and replace them with the likes of Auburn, TAMU, Oklahoma, or some other Big 12 or SEC opponent. Playing ND once or twice every decade is enough for me.
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Okay, David, I will bite and have some fun too . . . .
Jan 26, 2021, 10:01 AM
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How about this - either Notre Dame comes into the ACC full fledged (that should have been the deal this year for allowing them to ride the ACC piggyback into the CFP) OR, and don't come down on me too hard all you T-netters, we join the SEC!! After a winless bowl season and years of mediocrity on the gridiron, it is time to come to the realization that the ACC will never get any respect. Yes, I fought it for years. Even made the ridiculous prediction on Twitter earlier this season when the ACC was winning and the SEC was looking sloppy that the ACC would win an ACC/SEC challenge in football. I know. I know. Crazy. But, just think about how our schedule in the SEC would look. We would get to play UGA and Carolina and Florida EVERY year. And, if we go, let's take FSU, Miami, and Ga. Tech with us to make the numbers even. Have two divisions with 9 teams each and 10 conference games (have one permanent cross-division game and then rotate through all the others). The eastern division looks like: Clemson, Carolina, Florida, FSU, Miami, Ga Tech, Georgia, Tennessee and Vandy. The west gets the rest (move Missouri and Kentucky). That puts the in-state rivals in Alabama, SC, Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, and Florida, all in the same divisions and in the same conference. We would finally resurrect the most storied rivalry in our history with the school that is closest to us. Maybe we can have A&M as our every year cross-division game! I would do that trip again every single year. Best experience we have ever had being visitors (even better than at BC!). And, then, we will get Bama or A&M or whoever in the SEC Championship game, and assuming we don't do something stupid, will still get to the CFP with 1 or 2 losses. I get that the academic standards are not the ACC, but there is Vandy and a side benefit is that we would get to go to Nashville every other year!!! AND, while we always get excited early in the season about finally doing well in basketball, hard times lately have shown that we just are not there yet (and, keep in mind that the ACC is way, way down this year).
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A minimum schedule guideline of ALL P5 CONFERENCES.......
Jan 26, 2021, 10:14 AM
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needs to happen.
ALL P5 CONFERENCES do away with divisions
ALL P5 conferences play the SAME amount of conference games (let's say 8 in this case)
ALL P5 conferences play 2 G6 teams
ALL P5 conferences play 2 P5 OOC games
get rid of playing FCS
go to 16-team playoff (as much as I hate to say that b/c I don't want it, but it has to happen IMO)
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 10:39 AM
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The problem is that your approach would not allow for 7 home games. As you know, Dabo really wants 7 home games to support the otherwise small commercial market in Clemson. The only way to do that is to have two teams on your schedule that don’t require home and home scheduling. Another way to think about it is, we only want 5 away games. Right now, that is 4 ACC games and then either South Carolina OR the Power 5 team (Notre Dame, Georgia, etc.) in the opposite year when South Carolina is at Clemson. If you have a 10 game ACC schedule, you will never have 7 home games — unless you are willing to have a season with 5 home games to offset that (which would be commercial suicide for Clemson businesses); if you have a 9 game ACC schedule, you would reduce the number of 7 home game seasons in half. So.... it’s not a matter of increasing the level of competition, but rather finding teams that won’t require us to play at their place in return for coming to Death Valley.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 10:45 AM
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***** THIS
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 10:44 AM
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The Citadel , Furman, etc rely on P-5 money games. The payouts are critical to their programs. Clemson does a great job of spreading those dollars around as we should. Although not as critical, G-5 teams need the money games as well.
8 conf games
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small instate team
quality outside opponent
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More conference games does not guarantee a better schedule. Most years it would be a 'meh' game. As was pointed out, the problem is the overall quality of the rest of the ACC.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 10:48 AM
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As far as I am concerned, we can drop USuC forever. They are a disgusting bunch to have to deal with. However, I don't think state legislation will allow that.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 10:48 AM
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The Coot game for at least the next few years wouldn't be worth the effort of stopping by the gas station to fill up for the trip, so I would be all for making deals to play another OOC game against anyone with a pulse.
IMO Tiger Nation, it is really hard to condition a team for the playoffs, and the NCG playing a soft unexcitable schedule as ours with the pathetic ACC FB competition that we play. It is embarrassing at the end of the FB season looking back at our schedule, and seeing how we annihilated our competition.
FSU, Louisville, Coots, no body that we play gives our team enough competition for our team to actually show off their talent, and to build that competitive edge/mind set that our guys need to have playing for championships in postseason play.
It would be great if we could pick through the ACC, and schedule games with what is supposed to be the better team in the ACC. With our ACC scheduling, the only way our games are ever excitable, is when we have to play games with several of our key players out with nagging injuries. Just saying that since Dabo, the ACC just isn't competitive enough for a team like our Tigers playing at a totally different level. Looking forward to the FB season now, it just isn't as excitable as it use to be with looking forward to the games against FSC, Miami, VT, and even the coots when Spurrier had the playing decent FB, and then Spurrier fell off the wagon about the time Dabo had our Tigers playing championship FB....
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 11:22 AM
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The NCAA needs to go to an P5 conference tax to be paid to the FCS conferences to be distributed to their teams to keep their budgets viable. That way Clemson probably pays less than currently for that glorified exhibition game (same situation for most southern schools). Then replace that game with either an extra conference game, or added FBS out of conference home game. Better product to watch, make more gate revenue, and solve the problem on how to keep FCS programs viable.
The Big10 and Pac12 won’t like it because they don’t have those traditional FCS state schools to help keep afloat. However, too bad so sad. Cough up the cash for the betterment of college football.
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No way, Jose. Eight ACC games max plus SCar,
Jan 26, 2021, 10:54 AM
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another P5, and the two upstarts like we have now.
What the ACC can do, though, to improve the frequency of playing other conference teams is to ditch these asinine, nonsensical divisions and schedule league play and CCG eligibility like we did this year, simply taking the top 2 in the standings and pitting them against each other at season's end.
At the current 14 teams and 8 league games, every team could play its three most important or significant "rivals" each year and then rotate through the other ten teams twice every four years. This would mean that over a 4-year stretch, the standard student-athlete eligibility period, every league team would play every other league team at least twice, both at home and away.
Clemson and other programs have already spoken up with their wallets on this issue when we tried expanding to 9 a decade ago - we dropped all P5 out of conference games save for SCar from our schedule in order to preserve 7 home games.
Keep it at 8, ditch divisions for greater regular season variety and travel opportunities (CU's 3 annuals would likely be Ga. Tech, NC State, and FSU), forget trying to get ND as a permanent football addition, keep our aggressive OOC P5 intact, and let's roll.
Go Tigers.
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Clemson Sports Icon [55480]
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Re: No way, Jose. Eight ACC games max plus SCar,
Jan 26, 2021, 12:40 PM
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^^^ totally agree with this ^^^
Only thing I might add would be to replace the instate team with another upstart G5 opponent for all conferences. Otherwords, no fcs opponent. Make that game a preseason game or as others have suggested, the spring game. But I'd be more in favor of keeping spring as is and then have a no count pre season game.
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Re: No way, Jose. Eight ACC games max plus SCar,
Jan 26, 2021, 2:06 PM
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I agree to keep it at 8 but ditch divisions. Give everyone 2 annual recurring games to maintain rivals and everyone else rotates so that within a 4 year scholarship cycle, everyone plays every conference team once at home and once away. Chances to make some new bad blood and rivals.
And ditch the ability to schedule 10+ years into the future so you have flexibility with your non-conference games year to year
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Re: No way, Jose. Eight ACC games max plus SCar,
Jan 26, 2021, 2:06 PM
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I agree to keep it at 8 but ditch divisions. Give everyone 2 annual recurring games to maintain rivals and everyone else rotates so that within a 4 year scholarship cycle, everyone plays every conference team once at home and once away. Chances to make some new bad blood and rivals.
And ditch the ability to schedule 10+ years into the future so you have flexibility with your non-conference games year to year
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Re: No way, Jose. Eight ACC games max plus SCar,
Jan 26, 2021, 2:06 PM
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I agree to keep it at 8 but ditch divisions. Give everyone 2 annual recurring games to maintain rivals and everyone else rotates so that within a 4 year scholarship cycle, everyone plays every conference team once at home and once away. Chances to make some new bad blood and rivals.
And ditch the ability to schedule 10+ years into the future so you have flexibility with your non-conference games year to year
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Re: No way, Jose. Eight ACC games max plus SCar,
Jan 26, 2021, 2:06 PM
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I agree to keep it at 8 but ditch divisions. Give everyone 2 annual recurring games to maintain rivals and everyone else rotates so that within a 4 year scholarship cycle, everyone plays every conference team once at home and once away. Chances to make some new bad blood and rivals.
And ditch the ability to schedule 10+ years into the future so you have flexibility with your non-conference games year to year
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Paw Master [17093]
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Maybe if we played a team or two with a pulse in the
Jan 26, 2021, 11:51 AM
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conference, we could coast on OOC scheduling like Alabama does, but until then, it's kind of pathetic taking shots at their scheduling...They play teams like Auburn and TAMAU every year
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Rival Killer [2736]
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So who else in the ACC would be a marquee matchup?
Jan 26, 2021, 11:56 AM
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I don’t think we need more league games. We need to schedule a big name OOC opponent for some buzz. Your article doesn’t make sense to me.
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Re: TNET: How about this dream schedule with current 8 games
Jan 26, 2021, 1:40 PM
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Sure it's too much to ask, but wow... What if the ACC, SEC and Big 10 could get together after each season and schedule week 2 and week 3 for the next year. Keep week 1 for the "Revenue" game (SC State) or a Neutral or Kickoff Classic type game. Each ACC team travels to one non-conference team, and hosts the other non-con. The schedule is set each year loosely using conference finish while protecting the home and home. So maybe Clemson travels to Bama week 2 and hosts OSU week 3 (week 3 Bama travels to Big 10, week 2 OSU hosts SEC). With that scenario, we still play 8 conference, one in-state smaller school, and SC. The downside is only 6 home games every other year, and getting 1 of 4 playoff spots would be much tougher. The plus side is that as long as we finish well in the ACC, we get two marquee non-con games every year.
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Re: TNET: How about this dream schedule with current 8 games
Jan 26, 2021, 2:59 PM
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I echo those who want to add another conference game, provided the SEC does as well. The ACC can't lose competitive advantage if we agree to play 9 conference games and the SEC stands at 8 - with many schools scheduling 4 cupcakes. Put simply, you are going to need to have your team play more Conference/P5 games to drive attendance in the post COVID world.
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Re: TNET: It's time for the ACC to expand its conference schedule
Jan 26, 2021, 3:52 PM
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I have no problem with the conference scheduling 10 games, but I think the following has to be done.
1)Notre Dame has to either join as full member or leave. The League needs to vote on it and it has to be unanimous or you have no expansion. And Notre Dame does not get to vote because they are not a full member The vote is for including Notre Dame. If it passes and Notre Dame says they will not join then they leave the conference entirely.
If they agree then you need to add another school. Cincinnati comes to mind. You can then set the 2 divisions at 8 schools, play each other and rotate two schools in and out each year.
Or play 10 games on a rotating schedule and do away with the divisions.
The other two games need to be South Carolina every year and in state school like the Citadel, Wofford, S.C. State or a Wofford.
Of course the scheduling of the Carolina game has to with the understanding that the SEC stops interleague play because of the Pandemic .If that happens you then could pick a school from one of the Mid American Conferences as a fill in until this crisis is over.
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If I were in charge...
Jan 26, 2021, 4:13 PM
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Norte Dame, commit fully or bye bye. FCS games would be a thing of the past. Bring on the Sun Belt or whoever in the FBS to replace those games. I like App State as an opponent. Regional opponents are preferred to Akron or UConn. Just my two cents.
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