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Asst Coach [839]
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Think before you hit ENTER...
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Apr 7, 2025, 10:46 PM
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For full transparency, in case you couldn't tell from my handle, I am a Black man and a proud Clemson grad. I have been biting my tongue for a lot longer than I would like to admit, but this has to be said.
Just because a team plays tough defense doesn't mean its players are "thugs." Google "thug" and tell me which of these Houston players is "violent" or "aggressive" like a criminal. These are college educated young men playing their tails off. They are coached to play tough by their coaches from day one. Does that mean their coaches are thugs too? And this isn't street ball either. This isn't the Malace in the Palace.
Are we going to call all hockey players thugs too? How about the players in the US/Canada brawl? Violence is glorified in that sport, and I'm a huge fan of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. The double standard is stupifying.
I implore and challenge you to enjoy the games, be passionate about plays and players, and not make sweeping generalizations about people that can be hurtful. I love my Clemson Tigers, just ask my wife. But it is hard to come on here and escape when I read ignorant posts that attack people for no reason. I can't help but take it personally. It is uncalled for and unnecessary.
Think about the context of your words and how they can impact some of your fellow Clemson fans and grads, and stop playing ignorant when you say some of these things, especially when most of the athletes on our favorite teams look like the players on Houston.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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Apr 7, 2025, 10:53 PM
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Thank you. Go players!
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I understand your sentiment but there are plenty of whites that are thugs also so making the assumption that just because Houston is mostly black designates thug term as a black reference could be totally generalized as well.
Im all for Houston to win but they do play very physical. Some people don't like physical basketball play or they may be mad because Houston beat the Dookies.
Go Cougs!
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National Champion [7656]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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Apr 7, 2025, 10:56 PM
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i have used the term to call out white dudes and dudes of all races
maybe I need a better term for players that foul the crap out of people and shove people around
quick Webster search has me arriving at hooligan
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National Champion [7690]
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Re: Defensive Enforcers ---
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:09 PM
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I was one....I hustled and scrapped for a lot of loose balls....and played aggressive defense. I loved harassing whoever was supposed to be the best player on any court. Never was a thug.
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National Champion [7656]
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Re: Defensive Enforcers ---
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:14 PM
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dunno man …should ask the guys you were working over
not gonna take your word for it
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Legend [6779]
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:20 PM
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Didn’t apply to Houston but to guys like Bill Laimbeer and others of that era.
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Clemson Sports Icon [59187]
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I would say Bill Lambeer was a Major League Thug!!***
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National Champion [7656]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 7, 2025, 11:22 PM
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There is hockey movie with Sean William Scott called “Goon”
actually a pretty good flick - not pg
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TigerNet Elite [75315]
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Bill Laimbeer for example.
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:20 PM
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But whenever I hear someone say whitey, honky, or cracker, it just cuts me to the bone. I take it so personally.
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Campus Hero [13840]
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Do you spend a lot of time in 1964?***
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All-In [11004]
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Re: Do you spend a lot of time in 1964?***
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Do you spend a lot of time with your head completely up your asss?
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Campus Hero [13840]
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Nah that doesn't sound very comfortable
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Apr 8, 2025, 12:03 AM
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Plus my giant package would keep me from getting there.
Are you saying you hear the word honkey regularly? Are you sure you didn't just fall asleep watching the Jeffersons and dream about it?
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Top TigerNet [28454]
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Re: Nah that doesn't sound very comfortable
Apr 8, 2025, 12:39 AM
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Just call them “meat curtains”
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Orange Blooded [2428]
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:17 PM
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I hear ya. Fully agree with everything you said.
Except hockey fights. I hate watching hockey fights, just doesn’t make sense. I like hockey, but if I want to see a fight, I’ll go watch WWF for MMA or some BS like that.
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Apr 8, 2025, 12:15 AM
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Rose is my favorite Thug!
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:23 PM
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Man don’t go there. Nobody here meant that in the way you’re taking it.
Thug is not just a word suited for black people. It can pertain to any person of any race and there is 0 evidence in these threads that anyone that uses the term “thug” meant it in that way.
And for the record… Houston does play and get away with things others wouldn’t. It’s allowed bc they have that “reputation” so officials swallow whistles more than they normally would for other teams.
Some of it is ridiculous and it gets out of hand what Houston is allowed to do sometimes. That’s where people use the term “thug”. Not just bc Houston has an all black team or at least I haven’t seen a white player for them.
All I’m saying is… the only person going “there” is you by bringing this up.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:29 PM
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It is generally used on black people and the original post is accurate.
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CU Guru [1574]
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Apr 7, 2025, 11:33 PM
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It's generally used BY black people as well. It's been all over rap music well over 30 years, so it's not like it's just a label that's been thrown out there by white people.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 7, 2025, 11:53 PM
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True, but in the basketball contest it is different.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 12:01 AM
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CU Guru [1574]
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Apr 8, 2025, 1:32 PM
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No it's not. I understand that Their racial slurs and discrimination and things like that going on, but I'm not giving you this one.
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Campus Hero [13840]
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Associate AD [1043]
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Re: This loser meant it as a slur
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Apr 8, 2025, 12:01 AM
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They’re always a few yall come on.
Nobody that is being serious is using it in that way.
Racism exists everywhere. That’s fine if the OP wants to call on it if it’s there… I have zero problem with that.
All I’m saying is… use common sense… they’re always going to be a few. Does that make it okay? Absolutely not but they also have the right to voice their opinion just as we do whether we like it or not.
Thug can be ANY race no matter the color.
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Campus Hero [13840]
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You said nobody here meant it that way
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Apr 8, 2025, 12:35 AM
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I'm certain there are several regular posters who mean that as a slur. How many people does "few" have to be for the OP to be justified in preferring that folks refrain from using the word.
You said the few who are adding a negative racial meaning to the word have a right to express their opinion here; that's not true either. The bill of rights says the government can't suppress free speech it doesn't say a private company like Tigernet is compelled to subsidize it. If someone wants to spout racism they can start their own website and say whatever they want. They have no intrinsic right to say anything that the publishers of this site deem inappropriate.
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National Champion [7656]
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Re: You said nobody here meant it that way
Apr 8, 2025, 6:36 AM
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“The bill of rights says the government can't suppress free speech”
and then we learned they do it anyway
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CU Guru [1574]
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Re: You said nobody here meant it that way
Apr 8, 2025, 1:36 PM
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Your certainty is not what determines whether or not the comment was racist.
Also, it's up to the owners and operators of Tiger net determine whether or not the comment is allowed. It's not up to you.
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I disagree and I’m an older white lady. There ARE people on here that mean it that way! I’ve seen the comments at times and I know exactly what they mean. Calling out the OP as the only one going there is not correct.
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National Champion [7656]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 12:10 AM
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I don’t doubt the possibility - maybe they are - but we can put people on ignore (like I do for any Georgia fan)
or go full UK and no knock raid - send them to prison
…if that’s your preference
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The most notorious "WHITE" gangsters and mobsters were referred to as thugs, so I don't agree with the OP.
As for you Dong Staley is a thug and you're madly in love with her, so your opinion doesn't mean a whole lot.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 7, 2025, 11:31 PM
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Yes hockey players are thugs. They have players on the team who are called "goons," so yeah it's pretty accurate description.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 7, 2025, 11:41 PM
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i think thats the main disconnect - in hockey its codified and celebrated
basketball has a pretty detailed ref manual on what constitutes traveling, fouls etc
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CU Guru [1574]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 7, 2025, 11:42 PM
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Yeah it is celebrated, and hockey for a long time in years past was considered a thuggish sport.
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Athletic Dir [1118]
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I have NEVER seen any Gamecock coach, player or fan treated with an ounce of respect on Tigernet. So much for your "try a little tenderness".
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Re: Then why is the Term Thug-Life......
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Apr 8, 2025, 12:06 AM
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Used in some hip-hop situations/songs? Tell us not to use a word that some of you use regularly.
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Re: Then why is the Term Thug-Life......
Apr 8, 2025, 12:15 AM
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That's an ugly post right there. Jeez
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Apr 8, 2025, 12:17 AM
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All love man, I can see exactly where you’re coming from. Go tigers!
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 5:27 AM
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Let’s all “play pretty” …
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Game Changer [1926]
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This place reeks of white privilege and bigotry.
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Apr 8, 2025, 6:04 AM
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Color me surprised.
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Re: This place reeks of white privilege and bigotry.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Orange Elite [5352]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 6:13 AM
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You're argument lost all credibility the second you used hockey as your passive dig at white people...It's about and will always be about race with people...ALWAYS...Hence the "Go Fund Me" for a kid that murdered another kid at a track meet...
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Ring of Honor [23783]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 6:21 AM
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Maybe for you it will be.
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National Champion [7656]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 6:51 AM
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making generalizations and assumptions in a post about generalizations and assumptions
…that is probably not the best way to win over folks and support your argument
i know i don’t spend all day looking at life through a filtered window
it’s certainly not “always about race” nor should it be
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 6:53 AM
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Cool and I see your point. That said, the core of the issue is about the thug comments and he has a valid point.
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National Champion [7656]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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Apr 8, 2025, 7:00 AM
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that he kind of hurts through other comments
i mean…I probably wouldn’t have entered the chat f I wasn’t mildly offended
i do understand that was not posters intent and that I am not the target audience
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Ring of Honor [22194]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 6:40 AM
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😂😂😂
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Orange Phenom [14602]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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SMH
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Ring of Honor [23783]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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Apr 8, 2025, 6:47 AM
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What bothers you about it?
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Ultimate Tiger [33548]
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yes .. the whole game of hockey is one thuggish sport
Apr 8, 2025, 7:40 AM
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Those acts are VIOLENT and would be CRIMINAL outside the rink. i'm a Piston fan and i loved the bad boys. I like the thugish, street ball brand of basketball. It is Better than the double tribble , 8 steps , palm the ball, point fest of the nBA.
These are college educated
I hope this is true at Houston. If you said it about UGA i would laugh at you.
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Ring of Honor [23783]
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Re: yes .. the whole game of hockey is one thuggish sport
Apr 8, 2025, 8:37 AM
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Lack of education doesn't make one a thug. They could still be great hard working positive citizens as well as quality teammates. Moreover, who knows what they do in class. No need for the thug calls.
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Ultimate Tiger [33548]
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Where in my post did I say lack of education
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Apr 8, 2025, 10:32 AM
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Makes one a thug?
Did you respond to the wrong post?
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Ring of Honor [23783]
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Re: Where in my post did I say lack of education
Apr 8, 2025, 10:34 AM
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Yeah...wrong spot. Maybe the post I was responding to was deleted or I posted in the wrong spot. Not sure.
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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Thoughtful and instructive. Thank you. Just scrolled through first page of responses.
There are posters on Tigernet that are careless with their posts, sexist, racially divisive. Group seems to get larger by the week.
Your post is 109%. Thank you.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 8:53 AM
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hockey thugs are called goons. And no lily white person gets offended.
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Clemson Conqueror [11306]
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I haven't been reading posts about Houston, but the TUs for this post caught
Apr 8, 2025, 8:54 AM
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my eye.
I guess folks have been calling Houston players "thugs" and you believe it is racially motivated?
I'm old - so I've been calling anyone guilty of particularly brutish behavior on any field of play a "thug" for years, white or black. I have noticed the word "thug" has been co-opted at some point.
As an aside: I watched the Duke/Houston game, but only a few minutes of the Florida game. I just saw very aggressive defense being played.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 8:56 AM
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Exactly. If you call a team of young men "thugs," that says more about you than them. But you're probably OK with it.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 9:01 AM
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As much as I don't like Houston and Kelvin Sampson, I do not think any of them are "thugs" (whatever you think that is) and don't use the term.
However if the first poster jamal wants to stop biting his tongue, he will realize message board banter isn't really the problem in our society. I wonder if his tongue is bloody enough to say what is the problem.
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Hall of Famer [8293]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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jamaltiger
There is only one person who needs to see your message. There isn't some widespread racist "thug" mindset on this board. ClemsonSCTiger is the one with the mental problem.
Ignore him. Most of the rest of us are real Clemson Men. He's a disgrace.
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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“Playing their tails off”
Hmmm…
What exactly are you implying when you say they have tails??
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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I think his point is very simple ..... just think a little before you post.
I have written many a letter, email, or text and sat on them a minute, hour, or day before deleting them because I know better and feel like taking the high road or thinking about someone else's feeling is more important than me making my point. I am a retired Marine, a little to the right of Attila the Hun, so don't think of me as a bleeding heart lefty.
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All-In [11004]
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Oh good grief.
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Now we have to do sensitivity training for a sports fan message board?
LOL
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Re: Oh good grief.
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If it is me you are responding to I don't know where you got that. Being a decent person and thinking about a response has nothing to do with sensitivity training.
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Commissioner [1269]
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
Apr 8, 2025, 12:49 PM
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I’d rather see tough than soft play any day!
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Re: Think before you hit ENTER...
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I was pulling for Houston--didn't think they were thugs.
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Paw Warrior [5088]
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Where's the fun in that?
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