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TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:21 PM
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Orange Blooded [3925]
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one less name I have to try and pronounce
Dec 3, 2021, 3:23 PM
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Did I do that right? was that a legit MOT answer?
Taccers?
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Orange Blooded [3925]
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They are all leaving
Dec 3, 2021, 3:25 PM
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soon it will be coaches sons vs male cheerleaders.
winner gets to slide down the big slide
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CU Guru [1594]
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Re: They are all leaving
Dec 3, 2021, 3:52 PM
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Unfortunately it seemed like Ladson was injured more than healthy when we needed him.
If he was healthy he would have started a bunch of games ahead of coaches kids.
What a dumb comment. Jake Venables gave 100% and got broken up playing for Clemson.
How many fumbles did you ever see from Will Swinney as a holder or receiver?
They showed up for every game and played when and where they were asked.
Ladson's career was a disappointment at Clemson, so moving on may help the young man.
I hope he can go to South Florida and stay healthy and have a great career.
You expect a coach to send his kids to Columbia?
We have plenty of spots to have a few coaches kids on the team.
Remember, all SIX (6) quarterbacks on the roster before Trevor showed up eventually transferred.
There were some good ones, but I can't think of one of them that should have started in front of Trevor.
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Orange Blooded [3925]
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what a stupid reply
Dec 3, 2021, 4:12 PM
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your attempt to call out someone who simply made a joke is only eclipsed by your poor reading comprehension. I have no problems with coaches children playing sports. The fact that I have to say that say's more about your ignorant nature than it does me.
Have a nice day
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Re: what a stupid reply...to a reasonable response
Dec 3, 2021, 6:16 PM
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You picked a fight when you said "they are all leaving" but implied that coaches' sons don't leave.
Jake V and Will S ARE leaving.
So according to your logic, only male cheerleaders will be suiting up for spring practice.
What about the Herbstreit boys? Got any beef with them?
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Orange Blooded [3925]
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And yet another ignorant reply
Dec 3, 2021, 8:06 PM
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Please stop being stupid….please
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Standout [335]
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These comments I see are very different
Dec 3, 2021, 8:20 PM
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from the ones on the board when he committed.
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Re: They are all leaving
Dec 4, 2021, 1:32 AM
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Great comment everything you said is what I would say. There's only one player that's left that would have started and that's DK. And technically he was kicked off the team. Feaster was not better than Travis KB was not better than sunshine. As far as Frank goes best ability is availability can't miss what we never saw we got time now to recruit a WR
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:24 PM
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Bummer. Best of Luck Frank, and thanks for your contributions. We'll always consider you a Tiger.
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Asst Coach [717]
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:26 PM
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Wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not. We're losing players everywhere, like most other programs.
Wish Frank well, thought he was going to be the next star for us and it just didn't happen.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:26 PM
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Probably brings into question even more so why the Dutch Fork WR wasn’t offered earlier.
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Dynasty Maker [3377]
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:44 PM
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Dabo offers when he's willing to accept their commitment.
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That’s a stupid philosophy
Dec 3, 2021, 3:52 PM
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That he needs to change. He is stubborn though so probably won’t.
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Dynasty Maker [3377]
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Re: That’s a stupid philosophy
Dec 3, 2021, 3:59 PM
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Offering a kid without being willing to accept his commitment.... makes you a crappy person
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Re: That’s a stupid philosophy
Dec 3, 2021, 7:25 PM
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The issue is he should be willing to take more. Oversigning is a must in todays world. The kids did it to themselves.
Our recruiting philosophy MUST change now. What worked in the past will not work moving forward.
I think we all saw TP coming, but we need to hit the portal or get another signee. At this rate, teams need to be allowed to carry 95 to 100 scholarship players. You cannot bring in a free agent.
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Re: That’s a stupid philosophy
Dec 3, 2021, 7:25 PM
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The issue is he should be willing to take more. Oversigning is a must in todays world. The kids did it to themselves.
Our recruiting philosophy MUST change now. What worked in the past will not work moving forward.
I think we all saw TP coming, but we need to hit the portal or get another signee. At this rate, teams need to be allowed to carry 95 to 100 scholarship players. You cannot bring in a free agent.
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Yes
Dec 8, 2021, 6:19 AM
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In this world, doing the "right thing" is no longer standard.
One of the things that make Clemson special.
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Seriously, you would be a much better coach than Dabo.
Dec 3, 2021, 4:19 PM
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We can all see that. Not sure why Clemson's administration can't.
So frustrating.
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Re: Seriously, you would be a much better coach than Dabo.
Dec 3, 2021, 6:25 PM
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Right.
Dabo needs to become like the SEC and over-offer. Then when they accept but you don't have room, you tell them they will have to pay their own way (Grey shirt) until a scholly becomes available. (Rolls eyes.)
Why do we have to educate new commenters every single year on how Dabo's recruiting methods are so much more responsible and ethical than most CF coaches practice?
It's not as though signing another potential player was going to prevent Ladson from leaving, anyway.
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If we don’t start over signing we’re done
Dec 4, 2021, 2:01 AM
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We aren’t going to find enough guys we want from the portal IMO
Take the 25 every year and you can be more selective in the portal.
We have to compete on a level playing field or we won’t be having any more CFP runs.
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Re: That’s a stupid philosophy
Dec 3, 2021, 10:15 PM
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TD Tigers, you could learn something useful by taking heed of ROBOKIRK's comments.
There are too many unimaginably stupid posters on TNet.
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Re: That’s a stupid philosophy
Dec 4, 2021, 9:44 AM
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Yeah, because Dabo sucks as a coach and a recruiter.
####### fans are the rule these days. Oh wait, it's always been that way.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:28 PM
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Thought Ladson was going to be great. As it turns out, how many games did he actually participate in 6 or 8? Hope wherever he goes he can stay healthy and contribute.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:36 PM
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25 as the article states.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:59 PM
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And probably dropped a pass in all of them…
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Never forget the TAM TD he dropped.***
Dec 3, 2021, 4:36 PM
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Re: Never forget the TAM TD he dropped.***
Dec 3, 2021, 9:59 PM
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And the one in the first ND game last yr.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:36 PM
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Seriously and the only play I remember of his was his drop against Miami last year when he was wide open down the sidelines.
Best of luck and stay healthy
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:42 PM
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Trusting it’s just the times and not anything specific going on within the program. And going to assume all these transfers open up a few unexpected scholarships. Hopefully the coaches use this as an opportunity to reload, perhaps even with some kids de-committing due to the coaching carousel taking place across the country. Would be nice to come out of all this transition in a stronger position. We’ll see.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:58 PM
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Bama has been losing players--it's everywhere.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 7:39 PM
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The better the program, the more you'll see the portal exit used. At the level the top schools recruit, not every 4 or 5 star is going to be good enough to start. It just the nature of the competition and survival of the fittest. Only difference now is that kids have the option to go somewhere and get PT they can't get here. I don't get all the handwringing. Just keep up the Top 10 recruiting and we'll be fine.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:42 PM
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Trusting it’s just the times and not anything specific going on within the program. And going to assume all these transfers open up a few unexpected scholarships. Hopefully the coaches use this as an opportunity to reload, perhaps even with some kids de-committing due to the coaching carousel taking place across the country. Would be nice to come out of all this transition in a stronger position. We’ll see.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 4:21 PM
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I think that Frank could have been a good Clemson WR if he hadn't been injured so much, he wasn't a dependable choice for the coaches to turn to when the team really needed him to produce!!!
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He was a progress stopper and the production improved as
Dec 3, 2021, 3:36 PM
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soon as his back-up started getting his game reps the last 2 seasons...Total miss in recruiting
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Athletic Dir [1149]
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he was a complete disaster
Dec 3, 2021, 3:58 PM
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thanks for nothing
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 3:55 PM
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This crap will force Dabo to recruit more players and use the portal some. No question about it.
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He’s going to Johns Hopkins
Dec 3, 2021, 4:13 PM
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With Sloan Kettering
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 4:14 PM
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Dabo loved this guys upside and was praising of him when he came. Unfortunately he just didn’t live up to the potential.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 4:38 PM
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I said we would have a QB problem next year and was called crazy. If DJ decides to enter the transfer portal (Im not saying he will) after the bowl game then we will have a big problem. We would have an incoming Freshman and 2 walk-ons as QB's. This would force Dabo to use the portal. I would like to see Dabo reach out to Spencer Rattler who is in the portal right now but I know that wont happen. Good luck Taisun and Frank...
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 8:32 PM
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Why would DJ leave next year? Hes got NO competition. I hope Klubnik is as good as TL, but no indications of it. He's going to have to have at least a year of practice.
Why would we want Rattler? If we cant fix DJ, how we gonna fix Rattled?
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There's going to be far more people in the portal than can be picked up
Dec 3, 2021, 5:20 PM
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Some of these kids might be in for a rude awakening. There's going to be more players in then there are places for them to land. Some might want to consider turning around and locking up their current scholarship.
But this is precisely what Dabo and many others warned about... It's the players who are going to lose in the long run.
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Re: There's going to be far more people in the portal than can be picked up
Dec 3, 2021, 6:34 PM
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There will be a few who land on their feet, and these will be played up by ESPN, so those who don't do their homework will assume a far higher success rate than is real. Most will fail.
The Brian Robinson-type story--waiting until your 4th or 5th year to start at your original school--will become a rare part of the culture.
But kudos to broadcasters who tell his story, too.
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Re: There's going to be far more people in the portal than can be picked up
Dec 3, 2021, 7:43 PM
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I think it's going to be a boon for the smaller schools. A chance to get talent that traditionally is out of reach that will really upgrade their program.
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Re: There's going to be far more people in the portal than can be picked up
Dec 3, 2021, 11:02 PM
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Are you referring to G5 schools?
Because, if you’re referring to FCS schools, the transfer rule hasn’t provided any greater opportunity than existed before.
Players already had the opportunity to transfer down to FCS without losing eligibility. Removing the penalty for the first transfer is designed to allow movement between FBS programs.
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Inasmuch as this might lead to greater parity...
Dec 4, 2021, 9:00 AM
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I might soften my stance on unlimited transfers. Parity in college football is a good thing. If not for Clemson shaking things up these last few years, College football national championships would be quite boring.
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Duplicate
Dec 3, 2021, 5:20 PM
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Delete me
Message was edited by: tplee®
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 5:21 PM
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I don’t understand this one. Isn’t the reason he didn’t play is because he was constantly injured?
That won’t change at another school.
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Is he going to the 4077th??
Dec 3, 2021, 5:25 PM
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For you young folks….M*A*S*H unit.
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Your Scholly should end the minute you enter the portal
Dec 3, 2021, 5:31 PM
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... or at least once the semester ends. If you enter the portal inside of the add/drop period, your scholarship should most definitely be turned off on the spot.
No team should have to pay for a player after they quit on the team.
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Re: Your Scholly should end the minute you enter the portal
Dec 3, 2021, 7:29 PM
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Scholarships ARE by semester. They aren’t minute by minute, lol. Everything is set paid for through December
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Re: Your Scholly should end the minute you enter the portal
Dec 3, 2021, 9:13 PM
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Of course. Semester is almost over. They certainly should finish out. But what about Lyn-J and the others? Did they essentially get a 'free' semester of school without even having to go through the motions of showing up for practice?
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 6:09 PM
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When you recruit high prospects, they all expect to play. Not everyone can start at the same. Loosening the portal rules is the fair thing to do for players. The downside is many will find out the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 8:44 PM
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So, a kid goes to a school, thinks he knows better than the coaches, and if the kid doesnt get his way, he transfers? Excuse me, LaKaren James. No. You wait your #### turn. And we wonder where the entitlement really is? My father said...if you join the team, you make a commitment. There is no quitting. You do your best and there is no pouting. That has helped me through many issues in my professional( non-sports) career.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 9:10 PM
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In the past 5 or 6 seasons we had leads that allowed us to go deep in the playing time pool...we didn't this year, it is part of the problem. Frank was hurt too much and one can only assume he's seeing writing on the wall that we have plenty in front of him and talent coming in. As for TJ...wish he would have left after the bowl game but same situation there. Not enough leads equals starters playing more in the games and less snaps...I guess he thinks DJ is in place and Klunbnik is better than he is.
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That's a reasonable take
Dec 3, 2021, 9:22 PM
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But I also think it's ultimately going to prove bad for both the kids and the sport.
On the flip side, I also don't want a player who has decided to quit on his team just go through the motions of showing up at practice. That's that's not good for either party as well.
Some kids have all the talent in the world, but have bad attitudes and could really benefit from some tough-love coaching. But they're not going to get that if they can just quit without any serious negative consequences. And on the flip side, a school and a coaching staff invest in you, shapes you and build you into the prototypical player that fits their system. But as soon as things aren't going your way, you leave them high and dry and having to start all over again on another recruit from high school. Call me crazy, but that's just not the way things should be.
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In addition to your examples
Dec 3, 2021, 10:04 PM
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there are also coaches who bring in kids they shouldn’t, don’t provide them the coaching they should, and don’t manage expectations well.
It’s not always a selfish kid that transfers.
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Re: In addition to your examples
Dec 4, 2021, 8:57 AM
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Indeed. I imagine it is pretty hard to manage the expectations of 100+ kids from year-to-year. And sometimes there are situations where its just not a good fit. But as far as I can tell, coaches, our coach at least, does not revoke schollys from kids not holding up there end of the bargain. Likewise, there ought to be some amount of reciprocation from the player. In absence of that, some type of penalty system should be in place. Perhaps one unpenalized transfer in the first year. These are kids after all, an these are big choices. I am okay granting them a mulligan in the first 12 months. After that, you are semi-locked in for the next two years (3 years in total). You may then have unlimited/unpenalized transfer options for you final year of eligibility. If transfer becomes necessary between years 1-3, a player my do so only by forfeiting a year of eligibility.
I'd be willing to bet this will be what happens--or something like it--in the coming years.
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Which school lands him to be injured on?
Dec 3, 2021, 6:22 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 6:23 PM
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I hope he is healthy where he goes.
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H e l l all of you enter the dadgum porta john
Dec 3, 2021, 6:37 PM
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Go Tigers.......
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Was at the spring game in 2019
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Ladson was so impressive that day. Made several great catches and thought this is the next first round draft pick wide receiver from Clemson.
He showed some flashes as a freshman, although he was hurt as he always is that year as well. He could get open as he is fast. But he had many drops. Just a very disappointing career for this guy. If he just had a lot of bad luck with the injuries that were unavoidable, I feel sorry for the guy. But can’t wonder if he’s just not tough enough. Frankly, his lack of production is one of the reasons we are not in the playoffs this year. He was a huge five star biased and that’s just the bottom line.
Hopefully he’s just had a lot of bad luck with injuries and he will go somewhere else and do well. But if you put a gun to my head from the outside looking in, the guy just isn’t tough enough to play college football is my read. We will see what happens
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Good luck Frank!!!***
Dec 3, 2021, 6:57 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 8:06 PM
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I think Frank would/could be an outstanding receiver if he weren't so injury prone. I wish him the very best wherever he lands. Hate to see him go...TP, not so much.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 3, 2021, 8:34 PM
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Best of luck Frank wherever you go. I hope you get healed and stay healthy so you can play.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 4, 2021, 6:48 AM
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I can’t think of anyone who has transferred from Clemson and prospered. I can think of several who hung in, got playing time, excelled and made it to the nFL.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 4, 2021, 10:22 AM
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Melusi was the teams leading rusher before injury.
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 4, 2021, 7:14 AM
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We’ll have a 53-man roster soon enough…
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Re: TNET: Clemson WR enters transfer portal
Dec 4, 2021, 7:46 PM
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Hate to see Ladson go. So goes the state of college football now??
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