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Paw Warrior [4736]
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There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Jan 24, 2025, 9:25 PM
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Has a problem with selling alcohol at a sporting event.
Anyone familiar with the history of South Carolina should laugh at the notion that we need to maintain some moral high ground against alcohol.
We hunt. We fish. We go to church. We watch sports. We drink. That's what we do and what we've always done.
Assuming the hand-wringing is coming from transplants from Ohio and the northeast.
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Varsity [102]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Jan 24, 2025, 9:37 PM
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Not true born and raised in SC don’t drink and don’t care to be around it. People get really stupid and loud when they drink not to mention all the other bad things that can happen.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Have you ever been to a sporting event before?
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Jan 24, 2025, 9:47 PM
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People drink. And are loud.
That's exactly why they're going in the first place.
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Athletic Dir [1183]
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Re: There's a LITTLE MORE to it than that
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Jan 27, 2025, 1:00 PM
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Oh my.
Keep making simpleton comments..... hopefully you'll keep drinking though.
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Orange Beast [6193]
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Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
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Jan 24, 2025, 11:47 PM
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Don’t go to bars. Don’t go out to dinner with friends who drink. Don’t allow it in my home. I stopped going to Clemson games 2 years ago due to health reasons. Def won’t be going back now. It was bad enough already with people inserting curse words into the cheers, chants and songs.
I probably sound like an old fuddy duddy but alcohol NEVER leads to a better experience for those who don’t drink.
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Game Changer [1934]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
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Jan 24, 2025, 11:55 PM
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Don’t allow it in your home? Does alcoholism run in your family or something or are you ultra religious? Jeez.
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Solid Orange [1310]
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I like alcohol, I drink. But knowing its a poison I totally get
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Jan 25, 2025, 12:52 AM
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Why people don’t want to keep it or be around it. One day I may even get to that position, but as a choice I still enjoy it more than I dislike it.
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Orange Beast [6193]
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Re: I like alcohol, I drink. But knowing its a poison I totally get
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Jan 25, 2025, 9:23 AM
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I respect that.
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Top TigerNet [29665]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
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Jan 25, 2025, 2:42 PM
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Don’t allow it in your home? Does alcoholism run in your family or something or are you ultra religious? Jeez.
It ran in mine...
Hence that is why I don't consume alcohol...
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Offensive Star [315]
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Paw Master [16346]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
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Jan 28, 2025, 8:29 AM
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I am a boringly conservative old guy. I have consumed a very comfortable quantity of alcohol for over 60 years. Clemson and Clemson sporting events have always been a part time party for me made a tad better by beer and whisky. Neither beer nor whiskey have ever caused me a legal or particularly dangerous moment. I raised my kids in church, with a respect for safety and sobriety and them with the knowledge their Dad and his crowd enjoyed booze at a party. My kids are in their 30s and 40s now, are church going believers, drink a little, have never had a problem with alcohol.
I do not 'get' the holier than thou crowd that never drinks and constantly ####### about anyone who does. A whole lot of Clemson folks enjoy a drink or six on game day. In 60+ years I Have seen almost nothing associated with alcohol at Clemson games that was problematic, even while i know lots of Moms and Dads, Grandma's and Grandads are enjoying a drink or two on Game day. And I have always thought that if my kids or grandkids got lost on a gameday at Clemson someone would rescue them and take care of them like Clemson folks are want to do drinking or not?
FWIW, I rarely miss church, one of my kids went to seminary and spends her life spreading the gospel and the other two are raising their kids in the church with some focus on knowing they have faith in
God.
My friends of 60+ years are more or less like me. They have seen me drunk and stupid, but none of us have ever been in or caused trouble.
Who are these odd balls with the much too great than necessary fear of booze? What are they talking about? What games have they been attending since 1967 that I missed?
Is booze a problem for many people? Yep it is. Is being fat and out of shape a problem for many people? You bet. Will self righteous tee totalers fix any of this? NO.
Go Tigers!!
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Dynasty Maker [3585]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
Feb 18, 2025, 8:14 AM
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Congrats on being ignorant, Harley.
Call me and I’d be happy to introduce you to plenty of people affected by alcohol. How about the wife whose husband died in the shower 8 months ago after drinking too much and falling. How about the wife who divorced her husband last year because he couldn’t go a day without alcohol, not to mention his kids who are now separated from him after he picked them up from school and got in a wreck because of alcohol. How about the 46 year old brother who shakes uncontrollably because he hasn’t had alcohol recently. How many kids should I introduce you to who are beaten by drunk dad. I know quite a few.
Look in the mirror with your holier than thou attitude. I don’t need a Bible verse to say alcohol is stupid. Your ignorant comments are offensive to people who actually have been effected by alcohol.
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Paw Master [16346]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
Feb 18, 2025, 7:07 AM
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Jesus went to a wedding once and the hosts ran out of wine. The first miracle of Jesus was turning water into wine so that the celebration could continue. I think I would have hung around to see and hear more from Jesus had I been there.
I am in my 70s and have long enjoyed alcohol without harmful or addictive problems. If someone else doesn't want to be around me, I am ok with that. Neither I nor my family have a problem with strong drink and neither do the great majority of people in the world. I feel sorry for people and families.
who have had problems with alcohol. I also feel bad for people who overeat and die from it. Over eating has been a bigger problem for me and for my family. Looking around America makes me think the abundance of food might be killing more of us than alcohol.
I like being around people. But I shall never purchase a high priced beer at a ball game.
Go Tigers!!
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Paw Master [16346]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
Feb 18, 2025, 7:08 AM
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Jesus went to a wedding once and the hosts ran out of wine. The first miracle of Jesus was turning water into wine so that the celebration could continue. I think I would have hung around to see and hear more from Jesus had I been there.
I am in my 70s and have long enjoyed alcohol without harmful or addictive problems. If someone else doesn't want to be around me, I am ok with that. Neither I nor my family have a problem with strong drink and neither do the great majority of people in the world. I feel sorry for people and families.
who have had problems with alcohol. I also feel bad for people who overeat and die from it. Over eating has been a bigger problem for me and for my family. Looking around America makes me think the abundance of food might be killing more of us than alcohol.
I like being around people. But I shall never purchase a high priced beer at a ball game.
Go Tigers!!
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Dynasty Maker [3573]
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Orange Beast [6193]
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Haha. Yes. Were fun and active family.
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Jan 25, 2025, 9:23 AM
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Sports, fishing, hunting, family trips, etc. Sad the world thinks if you don’t allow alcohol in your life you must be “weird.” 40% of Americans don’t drink. I don’t care if others drink. Most of my friends and siblings do. And I love hanging with them. Just don’t like being them once alcohol enters the scene.
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Top TigerNet [30297]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
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Jan 25, 2025, 9:31 AM
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Why would you think he’s “gotta have another avenue of entertainment.”?
I drink and I don’t think beer sales at DV are going to have much of an impact on me. But why do you think you can tell others what they “gotta have”? Every one is entitled to their opinion and to live their own lives as they see fit. Why do people want to force their opinions on others?
RU4GOD2 is a regular poaster on here and seems to be a pretty reasonable person. You are entitled to your opinion, but you aren’t entitled to try to force it on anyone else.
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Orange Beast [6193]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
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Jan 25, 2025, 9:52 AM
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Thanks, rhettfla. But I’ve had people call me everything from ridiculous to stupid. Simply because I’m not a fan of alcohol. I never condemn others for doing so. Nothing wrong with it. It’s just not something I want in my life. Sort of like pythons. I don’t understand owners who have one as a pet. But if he opens that cage, while I'm visiting, I’m out! Hahaha!
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Dynasty Maker [3245]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
Feb 5, 2025, 8:16 AM
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Nothing wrong with it yet you won’t even sit and have dinner with someone if they choose to have a drink?
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Athletic Dir [1183]
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CU Guru [1516]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
Jan 27, 2025, 1:11 PM
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Curse words, the student section usually says those and they are 18-22 year old kids let it go my I wanna live in the 1950s lol I don’t drink but it will be a great revenue stream and keep the crowd in the game instead of half leaving at halftime and slowly makin their way back if at all Go Tigers!!!
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Rival Killer [2989]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
Jan 29, 2025, 3:07 PM
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Yeah, you are a fuddy duddy. You got that right.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean others shouldn't be allowed to.
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Dynasty Maker [3245]
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Re: Dont drink. Never will. Dont want to be around it.
Feb 5, 2025, 8:14 AM
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“ Don’t go out to dinner with friends who drink.”
Wow. You do realize that Jesus hung out and drank wine with the “sinners”?
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Varsity [119]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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I agree! I have never understood the whole drinking thing. All the benefits of drinking are not positive. Addiction, DUI or even worse. I view it as for the weak minded!
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110%er [3858]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 18, 2025, 4:48 AM
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it isnt church.. its a football game. people are going to be loud and people are going to be drunk it happens everywhere else and its GOING to happen at Clemson. Im sorry it upsets you maybe you should just stay home. 
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99426]
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Its ok outside the stadium for tailgating, but
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Jan 24, 2025, 9:37 PM
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No need to sell alcoholic beverages inside imo.
We have been about being a family environment for 90+ years inside the stadium which has been our last boundary to keep that moral front intact, action-wise.
But it seems the athletic dept needs it to pay players or for some reason deemed important thus it’s a done deal from all heard..including baseball which certainly has to have a beer & dog to be relevant.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Bill, I know this may come as a shock
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Jan 24, 2025, 9:48 PM
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But when I was in college we would just sneak mini bottles into the stadium and get destroyed.
Crazy, I know.
People are going to drink regardless. Clemson might as well reap the financial rewards from visiting fans.
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Game Changer [1934]
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Re: Bill, I know this may come as a shock
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Jan 24, 2025, 11:57 PM
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Dude we did the same thing. We would load minis of Jim beam in our boots and some guys would have a waist belt flask. We were Loaded to the point where if we tried to go to concessions we’d fall over lol. Fun times!
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Orange Beast [6457]
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There is a difference
Jan 25, 2025, 7:00 AM
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A contraband mini bottle or flask is less prone to sloshing. A big beer can slosh all over people. I am hoping that it will be cans only with no cups provided.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Lmao
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Jan 25, 2025, 9:22 AM
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The very last thing my friends and I were concerned with is whether we were "sloshing."
Plus, couldn't a drunk person enter the stadium and slosh a soda on someone else?
This argument makes zero sense.
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Orange Beast [6457]
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Re: Lmao
Jan 25, 2025, 10:51 AM
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Of course a drunk from tailgating can enter the stadium and slosh a soda. With alcohol in the stadium now and the odds of spillage on others increasing, the type of drink containers from concessions will need to be considered. My local performing arts center sells alcohol and has a strict policy on the containers that they use for serving. To enter the seated area, you have to have their container with their approved lid to prevent spills. I am thinking that the days of the current open cups in DV may be numbered.
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Game Changer [2096]
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Re: There is a difference
Feb 4, 2025, 5:06 PM
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I have had more kids under the age of 12 dump soda down my back than drunks slosh anything on me in my probably 100 games attended.
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Commissioner [1295]
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Me too, but I graduated, got married, had a family and now take grandkids to
Jan 25, 2025, 3:00 PM
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games. I don't want them to believe that alcohol can be consumed everywhere. Lines have to be drawn somewhere.
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Tiger Titan [49153]
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The same family environment where people get hammered at their tailgates
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:18 PM
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and then come into the stadium?
The same family environment where cheers contain profanity?
Look, we have great fans who are generally fine people. But this “family atmosphere” thing some of you pride yourselves on is kind of ridiculous.
Plenty of stuff you don’t want your kids exposed to happens at Clemson games. Nothing wrong with that, it’s a public sporting event. But let’s stop acting like it’s a church service that alcohol is going to ruin.
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Orange Beast [6193]
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So since its already bad, lets make it worse. Got it.***
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Orange Blooded [2384]
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Re: So since its already bad, lets make it worse. Got it.***
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Feb 18, 2025, 8:46 AM
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So don’t sell hot dogs to the fat guys either? He may have a heart attack at the game and kids may see it.
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Orange Elite [5589]
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Paw Warrior [4993]
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Re: Its ok outside the stadium for tailgating, but
Jan 25, 2025, 6:36 AM
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Hmm .. so while some worry of the “crowd effects” of selling alcohol (God forbid) .. it is ok to tailgate for hours pregame and get completely inebriated .. you’re still drunk, you’d still be drinking and driving afterwards and the behaviors would be just as bad .. why not stand on your pulpit principles - and disallow booze in the stadium and at tailgates - a “zero alcohol zone” at Clemson games, inside and out?
Heaven forbid ..there would be an uproar .. I guess the same religious principles, like alcohol ..are fine, if taken (literally) in moderation?
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Game Changer [1894]
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I wonder what the impact will be on traffic after the game
Jan 26, 2025, 12:38 PM
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… will there be more fender benders? Arguments in the parking lots? Road rage?
I don’t have anything against people having a drink or two responsibly, but don’t get behind the wheel afterward.
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Asst Coach [890]
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Re: Its ok outside the stadium for tailgating, but
Jan 26, 2025, 1:57 PM
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And studies show it doesn’t degrade the family environment. Actually the opposite because there is less drinking.
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TigerNet Elite [73589]
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I know many people who will disagree with you
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Jan 24, 2025, 9:41 PM
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and more than a few only see the location as the problem
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110%er [3634]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Jan 24, 2025, 9:48 PM
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I don’t really drink much at all anymore but it’s fine with me to sell it at all of our sporting events. I really think it’s all the older people that don’t want it because they’re not into the change. I feel sure many of the kids that come to games have been around adults drinking and sometimes getting rowdy and loud.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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I'm actually in recovery and work at a rehab facility
Jan 24, 2025, 9:51 PM
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But people are going to drink. If other schools are getting increased revenue from alcohol sales then Clemson needs to as well. It's a numbers game, plain and simple.
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Game Changer [1767]
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Re: I'm actually in recovery and work at a rehab facility
Feb 5, 2025, 8:00 AM
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Keep up the good work, and kudos for being open.
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Orange Elite [5589]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 1:38 AM
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Brother, you need to spend one Sunday at a falcons/ saints game in ATL. You would understand why drunks ruin football….
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Freshman [2]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 5, 2025, 11:23 AM
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Yes because football has notoriously always been a sober and cerebral sport... Are you 90? And let's stop pretending that the worse thing about being at a Saints game is the drunks and not the fact that you just gave money to people who support child molesters.
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Paw Master [17932]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:08 PM
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I think alcohol overall is bad for society, but it's here to stay and might as well serve it at the games. It goes hand in hand with watching baseball anyway.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Completely agree on all counts
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I'm the assistant clinical director at a rehab facility in SC.
Roughly 65% of our patient population have alcohol use disorders. It is by FAR the most physically damaging substance in our society. Meth is the most psychologically damaging. And of course fentanyl is the most lethal.
As you said, this is the world we live in. Clemson might as well profit from it.
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Top TigerNet [29674]
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Re: Completely agree on all counts
Jan 24, 2025, 10:17 PM
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I'm an actual South Carolinian(probably longer than you) and I'm against it because of safety concerns.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Unless liquor stores and gas stations outside the stadium stop
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Jan 24, 2025, 10:23 PM
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Selling alcohol, then it's a moot point, my friend.
Either rip 4-5 mini bottles before walking the stadium, or pay for 4-5 drinks in the stadium.
Heck, I could easily argue selling alcohol in the stadium is actually the safer play.
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Paw Master [17932]
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Re: Unless liquor stores and gas stations outside the stadium stop
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Probably is I bet.
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Freshman [2]
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Re: Completely agree on all counts
Feb 5, 2025, 11:25 AM
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"an actual South Carolinian"
"probably longer than you"
Congrats. You win pretentious ####### of the day.
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Dynasty Maker [3573]
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110%er [3737]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 24, 2025, 10:47 PM
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What do y'all think about allowing people to smoke weed inside the stadium during games? That'll be next. We went to NYC over the holiday weekend and that's all you smell there these days. People smoking it everywhere, and it's legal. There's more pot being smoked in Manhattan than a Jamaican music festival headlined by Bob Marley (RIP) and Willie Nelson. What's odd to me is they don't allow people to drink in public, but they can smoke as much pot in public as they want.
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Paw Master [17932]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Weed isn't legal in SC and it would need to be sold in the stadium. Be careful not to pull a groin muscle with that stretch.
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Game Changer [1697]
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Hahah absolutely
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I don't smoke anymore but I would have been even more passionate about Clemson football if this were the case when I was in school.
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Freshman [1]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 24, 2025, 11:59 PM
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Baptists think that Jesus turned water into grape juice.
I think just limiting people to a reasonable amount of beer (2-3 beers depending on how fat they are) would solve everything.
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Game Changer [1934]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 12:01 AM
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Most stadiums you can only purchase two at a time and that’s the limit and if one stand cuts you off you just fine another, lol.
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Freshman [1]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 12:10 AM
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Just make it so you need a hand stamp for each beer.
I went to the bowl game vs Kentucky where there was beer for sale, and there was one (friendly) drunk guy near me.
I also went to the coot game this year and there was 3 drunk people near me.
People who want to get drunk in public will do so.
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Orange Phenom [14549]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 10:15 AM
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Please. I know plenty of Baptists that will drink. They just like to say they don't or let anyone see them doing it. lol.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Please. I know plenty of Baptists that will drink. They just like to say they don't or let anyone see them doing it. lol.
Nothing says you can’t drink. It just states, do not be a man of too much wine. There lies the problem. More you drink the more you want.
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Game Changer [1767]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 5, 2025, 8:12 AM
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Well this seems like a good opportunity to bust out one of my grandad's favorite old timer jokes...(and this just a joke people, I was raised in both houses of faith).
What's the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist?
A Methodist will say 'hello' at the liquor store.
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Top TigerNet [28798]
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uh what?
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Jan 25, 2025, 1:03 AM
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Are you aware that South Carolina had blue laws longer than almost anyone? The north has way more of a heavy drinking culture than anywhere in the south on average.
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Orange Blooded [2372]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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You have it backwards. The people up north are the very ones who go to NFL games and fight after drinking at the tailgates and then all game long in the stadium. The focus needs to shift back away from the drinking and more toward watching the game we love. It just leads to obnoxious fans who cheapen the experience for those who don't want to go too far with drunkenness
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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If you go to church, you probably don't need to be dranking...if you have young children you don't want them around people
that are drinking and your views are tilted and narrow minded...
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Paw Warrior [4993]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Yeah, the younger days ..going to church with a hangover .. (like my fellow Baptists) …
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Jan 25, 2025, 5:17 AM
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My family had only one drinker. My uncle drank so much that he ended up with diabetes and died in his 50s.
I've lived in SC all of my life.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 11:45 AM
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Yea witnessed more bad than good including DUI’s that ended in people dying. Will definitely change a person.
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Game Changer [1697]
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You must be from Charleston***
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 6:36 AM
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I have been going to Clemson games for 51 years and need to drink in order to have a good time. Baseball has always been my sport that enjoy. My group has been sitting together for 23 years and among us there will no drunks so it will not affect me. Serving alcohol is a risk of liability and law suit. Money talks but there is consequences to consider.
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All-Pro [727]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 6:42 AM
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Sorry, meant to say don't drink in order drink in order to have a good time.
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Freshman [2]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 5, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Were you drinking when you wrote this? Hahaha
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Commissioner [1295]
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fundamental, non-woke, church members I know are not in favor.***
Jan 25, 2025, 8:05 AM
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it's probably more of an age thing too
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basically it's old people IV rattling the moral victory virtue signal cane
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Rival Killer [2989]
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Re: it's probably more of an age thing too
Jan 29, 2025, 3:03 PM
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Old bible-thumping BOOMERS that live inside their little box. People are resistant to change, especially those types.
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Rival Killer [2989]
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Re: it's probably more of an age thing too
Jan 29, 2025, 3:04 PM
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Yet, I witnessed them all as a kid growing up tailgating at all the home games. They got more sheets to the wind than I ever did at a tailgate. Hypocrites.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 8:12 AM
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Have you ever seen a “red dot store” in your area of South Carolina?
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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Jan 25, 2025, 8:14 AM
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My only objections is I don't want the drunk behind me spilling beer on me. Has happened enough times with smuggled beer over the years.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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I am from South Carolina and actually graduated from Clemson. If people could do it responsibly there would be no problem. As it is, some act like idiots, drop F-bombs, etc every play that doesn't end in a TD as if there were no small kids easily within earshot. Adding alcohol will not make this better, it simply will exacerbate the issue. I get the need for more revenue and will have a beer myself. Just wish people could be more respectful and under control for those around them, especially the kids.
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Valley Legend [12878]
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Where in SC are you, and where did all the Baptists in your town go?
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Jan 25, 2025, 8:22 AM
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Go 20 minutes southeast to Anderson from Clemson and see how many people you can find who are vehemently opposed to alcohol.
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Jan 25, 2025, 9:10 AM
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I'm Saluda,SC born and raised, a Clemson alum, and a proud Gilbert resident, and I think selling alcohol in the stadium is a terrible idea. I went to three Clemson home games this year where no alcohol was served and to the ACC championship game where alcohol was served. Most of the people around us drank the entire game and many were sloppy drunk. Not the same atmosphere.
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So you speak for all of us now?***
Jan 25, 2025, 9:11 AM
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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People seem to be the missing the fundamental point
Jan 25, 2025, 9:19 AM
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That if people want to drink, they will drink. Period.
Making alcohol more available isn't going to suddenly turn house wives into alcoholics. Fraternity dudes that want to get destroyed will continue to do so as they've always done. Where there's a will there is a way. They'll sneak it in and then go take several more shots at half time.
Other schools are creating revenue from alcohol sales. Clemson is already way behind. So, we are going to start selling alcohol. Just as every liquor store and gas station has been doing since before we were all born.
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CU Guru [1541]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 9:21 AM
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Nah, we folk from the northeast have no problem with alcohol at sporting events...
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 9:52 AM
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Really? You think you can speak for all native South Carolinians? I match 3 of your 5 criteria and I was born and raised in an area of the lowcountry where we considered anyone from north of Columbia as a potential Yankee. Sorry if I don’t fit your narrow version of what a South Carolinian is. It may surprise you to learn that people are different. Everywhere. Stereotyping people is what makes others think all southerners are dumb, gun toting rednecks. We’re not all dumb and we’re not all rednecks and we don’t all tote guns. Some of us are all three and some of us aren’t any of the 3 and a lot fall somewhere in between.
I know a lot of South Carolinians who will have concerns about alcohol sales in DV. There are a lot like me who won’t care one way or the other. I know a lot who drink, but don’t drink and drive. I know a lot who drink in moderation and a lot who can’t handle their alcohol or themselves. And I know a lot who don’t drink at all. If every South Carolinian you know fits your description, you should try broadening your horizons.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Exactly. People are different, so let
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Jan 25, 2025, 10:12 AM
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Alcoholics be alcoholics.
And let Clemson profit from their poor decision-making.
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Top TigerNet [30297]
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Re: Exactly. People are different, so let
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That’s a pretty big change from your OP.
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Paw Warrior [4736]
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Lol, wut?
Jan 25, 2025, 12:20 PM
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My original post stating that no true South Carolinian is truly opposed to allowing beer sales at a sporting event?
Reading comprehension brah. Reading. Comprehension.
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Top TigerNet [30297]
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Re: Lol, wut?
Jan 26, 2025, 4:25 PM
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Your original post that said “We hunt. We fish. We go to church. We watch sports. We drink. That's what we do and what we've always done.” We being “actual South Carolinians “.
Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension. Not all South Carolinians do all of those things. It’s not “what we do” . Maybe what you do, but you don’t speak for me or most of my family who are actual South Carolinians.
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Orange Phenom [14549]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 10:13 AM
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I can't even imagine stopping going to my favorite restaurants because they serve and I bet many on here complaining don't stop going to their favorites either. Some people just want to N B and C about anything involving Clemson.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 11:38 AM
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It’s just thought of the ones that can’t handle their beer. Got 80,000 folks crammed in and one ####### can f it up for everyone in their section. Always been proud of comments made by opposing fans on our game day atmosphere. On another note there are plenty of kids in attendance as well. No moral high ground just the nature of irresponsible folks with too much ruining a game for those that rather drink outside the stadium.
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Fan [30]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 12:05 PM
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I’m not against someone drinking, but whole heartedly against at a game. Many yrs ago the SC State Fair allowed beer. I would go and leave quickly. Loud, rude people spilling beer on me and young kids. When they banned it the difference was amazing! And I think I remember the owners saying crowds were bigger. I go to all home games and almost never see drinking. Maybe none. Seems everyone is having a great time without alcohol.
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Commissioner [1295]
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How do you feel about drinking and driving? Just let 'em do it?***
Jan 25, 2025, 2:50 PM
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Top TigerNet [30297]
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Re: How do you feel about drinking and driving? Just let 'em do it?***
Jan 26, 2025, 4:29 PM
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Well, if he’s ok with encouraging alcoholics, thats probably ok with him too.
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Game Changer [1713]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 25, 2025, 3:32 PM
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What a strange take. I’ve lived in SC and the northeast. Trust me, you’re more likely to find ppl opposed to drinking here in SC. Why would it even bother you that some feel that way?
You state what “we” do as if you actually know.
For the record, I’m not a teetotaler, or even close, and I don’t care if they sell alcohol at the games. But it’s about $, and not some strange notion about South Carolina heritage.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 26, 2025, 12:30 PM
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If only I'd had a few drinks, things would have turned out better. Sure it would.
Some small percentage of people who take a drink as a teenager will end up battling a disease that ruin their lives. I've never regretted giving it up, but not opposed to CU selling it. Hope moderation wins.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 26, 2025, 4:36 PM
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Exactly. Moderation is the key. You are correct that some people just aren’t capable of moderating their alcohol consumption. My brother died at 51 because he couldn’t and his liver just finally had enough. I know a couple of other people who are fine until they start drinking. Then they become combative and have problems because they just don’t know when to stop.
I drink, so I try not to judge, but thankfully I understand my limits.
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It's incredibly sad
Jan 26, 2025, 4:39 PM
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That the ingestion of neuro toxins remains normalized.
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Athletic Dir [1183]
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Re: Such an ignorant comment........
Jan 27, 2025, 12:59 PM
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Why even say it ? Closed-minded much ?
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Legend [7078]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 27, 2025, 1:07 PM
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Don't know for sure but could you be one of the drunks that ruins the event for about 50 people around him.
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Alcohol is not the issue.
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It is the abuse of it that causes problems, especially if it is a driver and/or a mean, obnoxious drunk.
I speak from experience ... I was both.
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Solid Orange [1390]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 28, 2025, 12:46 PM
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Especially in the upstate. But I do remember a number of years back when Oconee County was dry. The shine was always available back then though.
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Rival Killer [2989]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Jan 29, 2025, 2:59 PM
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Ain't comin' from Ohio or NE. Comin' from holy rollin' boomers.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
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If it will bring back the old Death Valley I’m all for it. It’s gotten quiet compared to what it used to be. The crowds in the 2000’s when we played #3 FSU in 2003 and Miami in 2005 was terrifying for opposing teams. Felt like your ears were bleeding and you couldn’t hear yourself talk. The good ole days in the valley. If it will restore the order, bring on the booze
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 5, 2025, 11:37 AM
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Louisville in 2016 was as loud as I can ever remember it being in my lifetime. Couldn't tell if I was screaming or not
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 1, 2025, 9:26 AM
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I'll be in Greenville by tomorrow and I have no plans on drinking. Course, I'm a Texan and not a South Carolinian, and I gave it up in 2010
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 1, 2025, 9:52 AM
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Personally I don't drink. However I have zero issues with selling alcohol in the stadium. I keep hearing the arguments but it's a family environment. Well I see many families with small children sloppy drunk at the tailgate. Do you honestly think they are going to see anything in the stadium they haven't seen out in the parking lot? Also it will encourage fans to stay in the stadium and not leave just to get some alcohol. You are also still going to have the few drunks around you no matter what. Just something you have to deal with. Now I would never take my kids to Columbia under ANY circumstances! Lol
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Orange Phenom [14549]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 5, 2025, 8:16 AM
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It's gonna happen eventually. Might as well get over it. I'll bet many of these people complaining doesn't let it stop them from going in an Olive Garden or Texas Roadhouse or any other restaurant that serves.
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 18, 2025, 5:00 AM
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I agree.
Nothing worse than enjoying the Tour of Italy as an impaired restaurateur sitting a booth behind me who clearly had been drinking beforehand enhances their impairment by ordering the tall boy only to later on start chunking expletives and breadsticks at the waiter and cook over a disagreement on a call of whether their party of 6 should have a mandatory 15% tip added on to the bill considering the outcome of the meal was considered inadequate and the cook possibly being owned by ESPN/ Carrabas
Your comparison is spot on!
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Orange Blooded [2247]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 17, 2025, 5:33 PM
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I'm for bring your cooler in like NASCAR.
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Feb 17, 2025, 6:29 PM
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What about all those actual South Carolinians who had a problem with selling alcohol on Sundays? Was/is that about moral high ground or something else?
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Rival Killer [2661]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 18, 2025, 8:33 AM
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The OP is painting with a pretty broad brush. The words "If you don't support me, you ain't black" come to mind.
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1st Rounder [651]
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Re: There is no way any actual South Carolinian
Feb 18, 2025, 9:55 AM
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I think the largest opposition if from those who abstain from drinking alcohol or just don't want to be around alcohol in general, which I completely understand. Everyone has their reasons, but it just isn't realistic.
I like to enjoy a drink responsibly and I don't like to be around those (drunk or sober) who act like a fool. I just tell my kids, just because you see drunks or hear cursing doesn't mean it's acceptable. So selling alcohol in the stadium will not turn Death Valley into a bourbon street mosh pit of drunks puking and spilling beers on women and children. The majority of the spectators paid $100+ to see a football game. And many like to enjoy a beer and a hot dog while doing so. Unfortunately, there will always be a small percentage there to get hammered on $15 beers, but they are already in the stadium. The majority of students are not of legal drinking age anyway. They fuel up at their tailgate before the game, at halftime or sneak alcohol into the stadium.
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