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I don’t think that’s fair to call them adjustments. When your qb play stinks and your scheme is so predictable you’re left running the ball that’s not an adjustment that’s basically doing the only thing you can do. Everyone in that stadium knew the tigers would be running the football and that every single first down would be a hand off to will Shipley. In 32 second half snaps we ran the ball 22 times and not once, not once did Elliot call for play action?? What a novel play calling idea that would be wouldn’t it? DJ was 7-10 for 69 yards in the second half but with the exception of the 16 yard under thrown pass to Ross the rest of those passes were dunks and dunks. Has the offense attempted a pass downfield one that travels more than thirty yards in the air all season? The other thing that’s troublesome is look at our yards per carry? 3.9? If GT was dropping 8 in coverage that our coaches were so confused by that would mean we’ve got five o linemen blocking 3 GT lineman, linemen that are smaller and far less athletic than ours yet we couldn’t average four yards per carry? Stop woth the adjustments. Clemson didn’t adjust. They ran the same stale offense they’ve run for years. This year we have a QB with the yips who stares down his receivers who holds the ball too long and is afraid to make a play. Watch him. He doesn’t throw receivers open he waits until he thinks the receivers open then throws the ball by then it’s too late. The pick six that cost is the Georgia game was a perfect example. Has he thrown the ball immediately it’s a positive okay instead he waited and we know the rest. Running the football because you have zero confidence in your passing game isn’t an adjustment at all. The offense has zero rhythm and seemingly no plan. We run the WR bubble screen five times a game and we’re lucky of it gains five yards. Every time the offense starts to gain traction Elliot will call a play that is a total momentum and drive killer. Watch how disjointed the offense is.

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So purposely modifying the playcall distribution at halftime

Sep 23, 2021, 9:03 PM

isn't defined as adjusting by you. Funny, because I always thought purposeful change was synonymous with adjusting.

The scheme is no more predictable than its been for the previous 6 seasons where we never finished below 10th in offense. Coincidentally we finished #2, #1, #4, #1, #2, and #4 in those seasons. Exactly how predictable is our scheme? We certainly haven't been someone who just lines up and smashes people. We've relied on creativity and staying on schedule.

Yes, in the 2nd half people did know we were going to lean towards running. Again, because that's what we adjusted to.

You're right, I wish we would have been able to better than 4 yds/carry, but the predominant running game was good enough for an 8 play drive where we dropped a 3rd and 4, a 12 play drive where we fumbled in the red zone, and 12 yard drive that resulted in the game-winning points. We had three long possessions, and that was by design. I'd say that design worked pretty good, considering the adjustments were the reason we win the game.

I don't think we called very derp routes against GT but we did against UGA and SC State. If you'll recall DJ has either been sacked on slower developing plays or he's been unable to let it fly, like he did last year for instance. I think the staff is choosing at this point to try and help DJ find his game, and they're giving him some easier ones. Hopefully he can build on that, starting immediately for this Saturday. The bad part is they're seeing his already proven potential in practice, but it needs to carry over to games.

We weren't confused by the them dropping 8, but we were surprised since this isn't GTs base defense. Once we saw it and recognized it, we adjusted.

Funny you called it stale offense. Again #2, #1, #4, #1, #2, and #4 along with not finishing below #10 in offense all those years .. that's not "stale offense they've run for years". That's perhaps the most consistently strong offenses in the country the last 6 seasons. We sure have beat up on a lot of teams and beat more playoff teams than anyone except Bama.

Just because you've seen us run it for years and recognize a similar play now and then, that doesn't mean you know the playcalls or that it's predictable or stoppable to other teams. Again, the proof is in the results.

Its the same offense this year. Its not stale and people haven't suddenly figured out how to outsmart the playcalling and adjustments. The clear and obvious issue is misfiring execution from the key spot on the offense, and an OL which needs to better to help him and the running game out.

Choosing to possess the ball in the 2nd half and reduce risks were both adjustments. Adjustments include revising your playcalling according to what the defense is doing, and adjustments also include limiting what's not working so well.

Everything else you said is a result of the misfiring offense. Its the same offense, but in order for it to function we need balance. If we can get the offense resembling last year when the QB broke a historical record at Notre Dame, then the nearly unstoppable playbook will open up.

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TNET: State's Doeren knows GT game is a valuable look for his defense

Well... if NC State doesn't change their defense from their

Really be screwed if no 2hr delay to make adjustments.......***

we made adjustments ?

Been stated several times, but you have to be pretty much clueless

Re: Been stated several times, but you have to be pretty much clueless

Re: Been stated several times, but you have to be pretty much clueless

Re: Been stated several times, but you have to be pretty much clueless

Re: Been stated several times, but you have to be pretty much clueless

So running the ball more because the QB was struggling

Re: So running the ball more because the QB was struggling

There you go flip-flopping again.

If this isn't struggling, it will certainly do until

I don't follow you.

Well frankly,

Re: Been stated several times, but you have to be pretty much clueless

So purposely modifying the playcall distribution at halftime

Re: Really be screwed if no 2hr delay to make adjustments.......***

We had to abandon the passing game because we couldn't

When the other team drops 8 and dared you to run, and

When you are forced to abandon an aspect of your gameplan,

We weren't forced to do anything.

Re: Well... if NC State doesn't change their defense from their

Yep, we gotta be ready for multiple defenses and dusguises.

The real problem becomes for the coach punditry

Well, I guess we'll just have to adjust to whatever they do

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Re: TNET: State's Doeren knows GT game is a valuable look for his defense

Re: TNET: State's Doeren knows GT game is a valuable look for his defense

Watch NC State come out and run

NcSt defense is lot better than GT's!

Re: NcSt defense is lot better than GT's!

miss st offense is better than ours***

Re: NcSt defense is lot better than GT's!

Re: NcSt defense is lot better than GT's!

Bockhorst is a vocal leader based on his interviews.***

Re: TNET: State's Doeren knows GT game is a valuable look for his defense

Re: TNET: State's Doeren knows GT game is a valuable look for his defense

When he watched the game tape, I wonder if he got bored

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