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The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.
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The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 6:50 PM
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It just an attempt to undermine Clemson’s recent success by a few people. The ACC is not “down”, regardless of what these clowns say…

https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/article300125914.html

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-basketball/no-longer-the-greatest-acc-basketball-has-fallen-victim-to-finances-expansion-and-its-own-bad-decisions/

https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/experts-project-four-acc-teams-to-make-ncaa-tournament-01jmd5zqkpe1

https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article297342449.html

https://orangefizz.net/2025/01/what-happened-to-acc-basketball/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/01/10/acc-mens-basketball-struggles-duke/

https://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=34860121&source=rss

https://frontporchsports.substack.com/p/whats-happened-to-acc-mens-basketball

https://allsportsdiscussion.com/2024/12/18/how-did-acc-mens-basketball-get-so-bad-this-year/

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/after-surviving-internal-threats-acc-now-has-mens-basketball-problem

https://augustafreepress.com/news/acc-basketball-where-things-stand-at-the-halfway-point-of-the-2024-2025-conference-season/

https://play.cdnstream1.com/s/capitolbroadcasting/the-best-of-the-sports-s-7bbc30/why-is-sec-basketball-up-c1e35e

https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2025/02/16/acc-basketball-downfall/

https://virginia.sportswar.com/article/basketball/2025/01/03/hoos-on-podcast-whats-the-deal-with-acc-basketball-the-athletics-brendan-marks-joins/

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/acc-catastrophic-performance-frustrating-selection-sunday/4c1a896f8ff5f4d20928a6c5

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/sec-relegates-acc-to-punching-bag-status

https://www.tarheeltimes.com/article156476.aspx




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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 6:55 PM
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Well in 2019

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Feb 23, 2025, 6:57 PM
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the ACC had 3 teams earn #1 seeds in the tournament and this year, probably only 3 teams total will make the entire field, but yah, sure, it isn’t declining and there’s nothing to see here.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 7:09 PM
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You need to face reality if.....


Feb 23, 2025, 7:10 PM
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you think it's not.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 7:15 PM
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You are correct. The ACC is not down

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Feb 23, 2025, 7:15 PM
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Everyone else is just better

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 7:15 PM
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Keep sticking your head in the sand. Declining SRS since 2017, can’t argue with facts. Sorry.

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Bakich said the people that bring up constant reminders of the last decade-plus belong to a certain fan base. ~5/28/24


Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.


Feb 23, 2025, 7:49 PM
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Maybe can’t argue with facts but polls and strength of schedule and quads are more opinion than facts

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Why cant you just be happy for our coaches and players?***

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Feb 23, 2025, 9:12 PM [ in reply to Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop. ]
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Uh,

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Feb 23, 2025, 9:18 PM
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The whole ACC or our squad pulling the load? Seriously.

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Our team

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Feb 23, 2025, 9:32 PM
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Putting down our conference doesn’t help our guys, it minimizes their accomplishments this season.

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Re: Our team


Feb 23, 2025, 9:45 PM
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Realizing the current ACC is weak and hurts our credibility is an important factor. Our domination of it aside. We should challenge our ACC brethren to carry their weight, but it is great Brad and team can help in their time of need. Thanks coach!

We can’t do it alone.

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Yep

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Feb 23, 2025, 9:54 PM
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CBB is getting it done.

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Re: Our team

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Feb 23, 2025, 10:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Our team ]
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Glad you’re finally seeing things my way. There is always room on the pro-Clemson bandwagon.

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Re: Our team

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Feb 24, 2025, 9:15 PM
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Ha! Difference is I’ve always been on it. Maybe a little disappointed at times, but never supporting the disparagement of our players. Can you say the same?

No.

I have this inner feeling you enjoyed the UNC win tonight. Very impressive. 🙄

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Re: Our team

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Feb 25, 2025, 4:15 PM
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If you don’t support the disparagement of players then you wouldn’t find yourself on the Clemson Mountaineers / Judge Keller side of this debate since that is something I don’t do regardless of what thumbs up you may have found.

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Re: Our team

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Feb 25, 2025, 5:12 PM
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Yo, VT, we love your tired, angry and weak takes from the past. Truly set you up as the prognosticator you would like us to think you are. Riding olemike’s coattails into the sewer was one of the best decisions you ever made.

Don't stop believing. I feel that you will get one right at some point, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Go Tigers! Not the unknown unknowns you promised us.

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Bakich said the people that bring up constant reminders of the last decade-plus belong to a certain fan base. ~5/28/24


Re: Our team

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Feb 25, 2025, 6:35 PM
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Seems awfully close to a personal attack. Those upset you enough that you cried to the mods. I guess you’ll
Just have to reflect on you station in life and decide whether you are really as great as you think you are. It would be against the rules to point out the reality of the situation.

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Re: Our team

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Feb 25, 2025, 6:43 PM
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🙂

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Bakich said the people that bring up constant reminders of the last decade-plus belong to a certain fan base. ~5/28/24


VT I replied to one if your reply but


Feb 26, 2025, 12:04 AM [ in reply to Re: Our team ]
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I did not know you were having a domestic issue with another tnetter so ima back out. If things go wrong then tmail me and we can talk.... ❤️

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TU's are like mature tig ole bitties


Feb 26, 2025, 12:00 AM [ in reply to Re: Our team ]
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Just wonderful to have and look at but ain't getting no milk from them.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 7:53 PM
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ACC is in obvious decline. Laughable that it is even debatable; unless you are too young to remember when it was the premier basketball conference.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Every game used to be a war. There are so many built-in wins now, it's ridiculous.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 8:01 PM
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The ACC is as bad as it has ever been.

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I cannot believe soo many of these outlets are saying this...

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Feb 23, 2025, 8:14 PM
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...crap. Thanks for sticking up for ACC basketball in the face of such nonsense FM!

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Re: I cannot believe soo many of these outlets are saying this...


Feb 26, 2025, 12:06 AM
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He a click bait hor

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 8:15 PM
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Well played, sir.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 23, 2025, 8:16 PM
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The ACC is most definitely down and it’s not an attempt to undermine Clemson’s success. Clemson is a very good team regardless of the league. But the overall league is just bad.

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Why is it the "ACC is down" when they beat

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Feb 23, 2025, 8:50 PM
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up each other, but the sec is the greatest when they beat up each other?

Go Tigers!

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because the SEC wins out of conference games and the ACC


Feb 24, 2025, 8:05 PM
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craps the bed in the ACC/ SEC challenge

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Bravo Smitty!


Feb 26, 2025, 12:08 AM [ in reply to Why is it the "ACC is down" when they beat ]
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Nm

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Lutz. It seems many in this thread didn't catch your sarcasm.***

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Feb 23, 2025, 9:04 PM
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Re: Lutz. It seems many in this thread didn't catch your sarcasm.***

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Feb 23, 2025, 9:08 PM
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FM trolling as expected. I’m just glad the unknown unknowns got to the elite eight last year. Great job Tigers!

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FMs trolling isnt as notable as

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Feb 23, 2025, 9:53 PM
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how willing you are to still slurp the bait knowing what he’s doing.

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Re: FMs trolling isnt as notable as

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Feb 25, 2025, 6:40 PM
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It’s a sign that Allowat is just here to stir the Brownell pot that he would even think Francis Marion is a “troll”. FM’s been making humor on here and has been one of the most notable accounts on here a lot longer than this cabal has been waging war over Brad. They’re just so touchy they’ve lumped him in with me and some of the crowd that has been more vocally dissatisfied with Brad. And even most of us have had little negative to say for a couple years now unless they start it up.

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Re: FMs trolling isnt as notable as

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Feb 25, 2025, 7:36 PM
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Laughter is the best medicine.

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Please, you haven't stopped whining yet...couple of years my ###***

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Re: Please, you haven't stopped whining yet...couple of years my ###***


Feb 25, 2025, 11:18 PM
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Point to the whining. Is it in the room with you? Is that why you stay up rage posting at anyone and everyone on here? Exactly how many people, that never give you a second thought away from here, do you maintain grudges with?

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Re: Please, you haven't stopped whining yet...couple of years my ###***


Feb 25, 2025, 11:25 PM
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Sorry about the Mike Young debacle tonight. Hate it for VT.

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Re: Please, you haven't stopped whining yet...couple of years my ###***


Feb 25, 2025, 11:26 PM
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Did you get your logins confused again?

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Re: Please, you haven't stopped whining yet...couple of years my ###***


Feb 25, 2025, 11:36 PM
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Nope, just me, sorry to disappoint.😉 you should work on your comebacks. They are getting stale.

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Re: Please, you haven't stopped whining yet...couple of years my ###***


Feb 26, 2025, 2:33 AM
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You should work on figuring out how threads work since I wasn’t talking to you here and you have dozens of open threads where this comment would have made slightly more sense.

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Says the guy who religiously went back and deleted his posts***

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Re: Says the guy who religiously went back and deleted his posts***


Feb 26, 2025, 2:34 AM
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So no, you admit you are just engaging in harassment. Noted.

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Noted? Please...Are you Steve Smith Sr?***


Feb 26, 2025, 5:45 AM
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Re: Noted? Please...Are you Steve Smith Sr?***

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Feb 26, 2025, 10:36 AM
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Don’t worry. I’m not interested in your wife either way.

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I would imagine you wouldn't...You're out here living your truth...so brave


Feb 26, 2025, 3:06 PM
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of you

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We know that declines only happen in ACC football.

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Feb 25, 2025, 10:28 AM
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And we further understand that such declines are all Dabo Swinney's fault.

ACC basketball remains a juggernaut. And even if ACC basketball sees a smidge of a decline in the face of extreme pressure created by portal/NIL, the additions of programs like SMU will create the sort of lift other conferences envy.

I mention SMU because the Mustangs, after their heartbreaking loss to Indiana (State) in the first round of last year's NIT, rallied to trounce UNC-Greensboro, Tarleton State, Florida A&M and Prairie View A&M to go 4-1 to start this season.

Decline? That is utter dominance. That is GRIT. Throw in Cal and Stanford, and the ACC is positioned to reign supreme for decades.

Only the lunatic fringe would badmouth the ACC at a time when Clemson is poised to win it for the first time in 72 years. C'mon.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 25, 2025, 10:38 AM
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I think the major reason for all the hand wringing over the ACC being down is that some take it as a slight on Clemson mens BBall. I can safely say the national media/experts arent that coordinated to make up stories about the weakening ACC merely to downplay Clemson.

Its down, it just is.

No one here can do anything about it. We didnt make the schedule, we didnt cause legendary coaches to quit/retire, we didnt cause the coaching failures at other traditional powers.

So why not enjoy the situation we are in and realize this is probably our best shot at winning the ACC Tourney since 1997. Seize the opportunity, stop worrying about what we cant control, this may not happen next year.

Those that are pushing back against the generally accepted fact that the ACC is down is because they are scared of the TNet boogeyman using it to downplay the teams accomplishments. Tnet has broken them.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 25, 2025, 11:35 AM
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That's alot of 🤡

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 25, 2025, 11:43 AM
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Appropriate +1

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.


Feb 25, 2025, 4:09 PM
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You're right. It's a fact.

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Re: The myth about ACC basketball being in decline has to stop.

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Feb 25, 2025, 7:34 PM
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I didn't clink the licks, but I'm guessing you counterensued your original point in your licks?

Ok. I cleared it up for everyone, carry on +100

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