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You ever notice ...
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Mar 5, 2025, 12:37 PM
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... that Trump's satisfaction always seems to come from hurting rather than helping people?
Strange way to go through life.
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Market's up 225. Rumor has it Trump is going to roll back his tariffs
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Mar 5, 2025, 12:48 PM
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on Canada and Mexico, they're just trying to make sure they can find some good excuse. You know the ones he threatened, then pulled back on, then enacted, yeah, he's going to pull back again. Wonder what the concession will be? Haven't seen one yet.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [107973]
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [107973]
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Snot mine, but ok.***
Mar 5, 2025, 1:55 PM
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Top TigerNet [30356]
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Like the Hamas prisoners he helped to free ?***
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Mar 5, 2025, 12:49 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [37727]
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YES!! They didnt want to be free!!***
Mar 5, 2025, 8:13 PM
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National Champion [7605]
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Re: You ever notice ...
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Mar 5, 2025, 12:50 PM
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You're right . When Trump made that child cancer survivor an honorary secret service member it did appear to hurt the hundreds of Democrats in the room, based on the complete lack of emotion other than the scowls on their face. They had a similar reaction when he named that park for the dead little girl who was murdered by illegals. They seemed very unhappy and hurt when he did that also. You're quite astute aren't you?
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Re: You ever notice ...
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Mar 5, 2025, 12:54 PM
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He is helping other angry dissatisfied people express their anger. He doesn't accomplish things, but he says what they want and attacks the people that anger them. That's his purpose politically. Other than he is just looking to benefit himself.
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That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
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Mar 5, 2025, 12:59 PM
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Of the Republican Party. A girl I went to high school with was complaining about the high cost of groceries. She grew up low income and seemingly still is today. She was staunchly conservative in high school and appears to still be to this day.
I couldn’t help but think, what in the past 20 years has the Republican Party actually done to improve the lives of low to middle income earners? I honestly can’t think of anything. Almost everything they’ve done has just been obstructionists to the Democratic agenda. Their policy gains have been tax cuts that benefitted the highest income earners.
I obviously see why high income earners would vote Republican because they’re benefitting. But what encourages these low to middle income earners to vote against their own interests?
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Re: That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
Mar 5, 2025, 1:04 PM
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the difference in you and her is that most republicans just want to be left alone where you expect the government to assist you, somehow government is responsible for you, cradle to grave comrade?
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Re: That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
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Most MAGA people don't want to be left alone. Most Republicans do, but MAGA people don't relate. MAGA people want rallies and violence. They want things their way and they are angry. They want government in other people's lives and they would love a MAGA Gestapo of sorts.
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Re: That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
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Mar 5, 2025, 1:31 PM
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nobody pulled your chain
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Re: That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
Mar 6, 2025, 11:10 AM
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Lester doesn't get that his opinion is old news. Obviously, the majority of the American people differ from his thoughts. Living in the past is a pit where he and the other defeated can name call and fight each other reveling in their gloom. His ignorance is his beacon of light.
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How is that opinion "old news"?***
Mar 6, 2025, 1:53 PM
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Re: That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
Mar 5, 2025, 9:58 PM
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You said MAGA and angry and violence.
The most violent cities in our country are ran by democrats. Democrats commit 83% of the crimes in this country. You are nothing but a angry liberal who couldn't make it in life so you blame Trump.
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I doubt you know anything about him***
Mar 6, 2025, 1:54 PM
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Re: That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
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Mar 5, 2025, 1:39 PM
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you live in columbia?
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It's not true that the TCJA (Trump tax cut) only benefited the...
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Mar 5, 2025, 1:40 PM
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high income earners. All of the tax brackets above the 10% bracket/bottom bracket were reduced, the child tax credit was doubled and the phase-out threshold was raised, and the std deduction was increased substantially.
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Orange Elite [5410]
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While what you're saying is "technically" true
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Mar 5, 2025, 1:56 PM
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most reasonable people wouldn't consider a $500 decrease on average of tax cuts for the bottom 60% of earners to be a true benefit to them especially when offset by the inflationary pressures created by the tax cuts.
Those cuts were merely lipstick on a pig to claim they were helping everyone.
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Ultimate Tiger [34860]
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How was the tax cut inflationary?....
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Mar 5, 2025, 1:59 PM
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and the bottom 60% pays a very small amount of the total personal income tax burden. I would think $500 vs what they actually normally pay would be measurable for most!
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Orange Elite [5410]
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The tax cuts encouraged corporations to make more profit because they would
Mar 5, 2025, 2:14 PM
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have to return less of the profits in taxes. The reduced federal revenue also lead to increased deficit spending. All of which creates inflationary pressures.
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Ultimate Tiger [34860]
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Huh? The tax cuts "encourage" companies to make more profits?...
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Mar 5, 2025, 3:11 PM
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And those higher profits lead to inflation how?
Also, the revenue didn't decrease. 2018 (year TCJA was in place) revenues were higher than 2017 revenues.
Not to mention the inflation rate in the first 3 yrs following the TCJA was 2.44%, 1.81%, 1.23%.
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Re: Huh? The tax cuts "encourage" companies to make more profits?...
Mar 5, 2025, 10:05 PM
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Also, the revenue didn't decrease. 2018 (year TCJA was in place) revenues were higher than 2017 revenues. ************************************************** -->
Do you honestly not know how tax revenues are evaluated?
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Ultimate Tiger [34860]
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Care to explain then?***
Mar 6, 2025, 7:39 AM
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Tax cuts are compared to percentage of GDP and versus expected revenue
Mar 6, 2025, 1:46 PM
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without the tax cuts.
Actual revenue is almost guaranteed to increase every year. When was the last year that we recouped less than the prior year?
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2008, 2009, 2020, and 2023***
Mar 6, 2025, 1:51 PM
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Re: 2008, 2009, 2020, and 2023***
Mar 6, 2025, 8:16 PM
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Yeah, look at those years. The worst economic collapse in our life time, covid, and 2023 was a fluke from inflation factors and an unusual capital gains realization from the inflated stock market in 2021.
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charitable donations were excluded? I sure don't remember that...
Mar 5, 2025, 3:16 PM
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I thought the change that played in that area was the increase in the std deduction means a lot less people itemized...but that doesn't mean you pay more taxes. If your charitable donations and other deductions were below the std deduction, then you take the std deduction now.
I remember something about home office changes/higher scrutiny, but I don't remember the details. I've never been able to claim my home office since I also have an offices in the office.
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All I know is that I pay more in taxes now than I ever have
Mar 6, 2025, 12:07 PM
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I now have 1 deduction-the standard one. Home office and charitable deductions were "closer" to the bottom line than the standard deduction. Certainly not a 1:1, but better than the standard deduction even at the increased amount.
Literally nothing income wise changed from year to year, except that I owed more taxes at year end.
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Ultimate Tiger [34860]
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Sounds like you're part of the 1.5% that saw a slight increase...
Mar 6, 2025, 1:09 PM
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still can't see how that could happen unless you were pushing the limits on office deductions 
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I don't know.
Mar 6, 2025, 1:16 PM
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I know my EOY tax year pay out went from a 'normal' $2-$3K federal, to $8-$12K federal. I've always filed as married, zero, and 2-3 years ago started filing as single, zero, just to get more taken out. I still owe at EOY.
Last year was different--I almost actually broke even, but I think Biden played with the taxes some.
I prob make 8% more now than I did in 2018. I'd have to look at my AGI since then, but it's not enough to warrant the abrupt increase in EOY taxes I pay.
All I know is I can't afford any more of Trump's "tax cuts".
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your employer taking out the right deductions?***
Mar 6, 2025, 1:30 PM
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over that time period, its actually been 3 different employers.
Mar 6, 2025, 1:56 PM
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I might say "possibly not" on 1, but at 2 Fortune 10 companies? I hope they have their payroll straightened out.
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Re: That is honestly what confuses me the most about current supporters
Mar 5, 2025, 9:53 PM
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If your healthy and have average intelligence you should be able to live a great life in America. If you are lazy and make bad decisions then you may struggle.
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Thats an easy one: stupidity.
Mar 6, 2025, 1:56 PM
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Its not a coincidence that where she is probably from (assuming a red state) did her no favours in the critical thinking department.
Now she's a mental zombie more worried about pronouns, bathrooms, or immigrants then her own security.
Classic leopard eats face situation with more to come.
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Hurting people hurt people***
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Re: You ever notice ...
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Actually what I see is Trump helping people who need and deserve help. I see people who need and deserve a punch in the mouth getting a punch in the mouth. ( Not a physical punch of course before any of you say I’m calling for violence).
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You ever notice when ppl get their ### pushed back in
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they show back up with a new username?
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Kudos to you...
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you get beat like a red-headed stepchild in here on a daily basis, but you keep coming back for more like a boss!
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I thought it was getting peed upon***
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You ever notice
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that you never actually notice reality?
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no***
Mar 5, 2025, 8:13 PM
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Re: You ever notice ...
Mar 5, 2025, 8:19 PM
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You mean by cutting government waste.
Ending wars.
Lowering taxes.
Creating jobs.
Keeping men out of women's sports.
Closing the border.
Lowering crime.
Sign me up.
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I still find it humorous that you lump "Keeping men out of women's sports"
Mar 6, 2025, 1:58 PM
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as something important.
Where's "changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico"?
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