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If you were the Big12, who would you add to make 16?
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If you were the Big12, who would you add to make 16?


May 19, 2012, 11:17 PM
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You have 10 already. Which other 6 would you add to complete your picture?

For me, I would try and go east as much as possible considering the WVU trend. I would add the following:

FSU
GT
Clemson
UNC
VT
Notre Dame

Add Iowa State and WVU to that mix and that would make a pretty sweet "East" division. The current members would make the "West".

Check out the map attached for geography purposes.

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Re: If you were the Big12, who would you add to make 16?


May 19, 2012, 11:19 PM

BIG XII
southwest pod
TEXAS
TCU
TX TECH
BAYLOR

midwest pod
KANSAS
KANSAS ST
IOWA ST
OKIE ST

midsouth pod
WEST VIRGINIA
VIRGINIA TECH
OKLAHOMA
LOUISVILLE

southeast pod
CLEMSON
FLORIDA STATE
GA TECH
NC STATE

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so you would take


May 19, 2012, 11:22 PM

Louisville and NC State over UNC and Notre Dame?

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Re: so you would take


May 19, 2012, 11:26 PM

Hell yes I would! I despise UNC and wouldn't want any school associated with Swofford near Clemson anymore. Notre Dame? Irrelevant washed up ancient football program.

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Re: so you would take


May 19, 2012, 11:29 PM

It actually would be cool to have UNCheat without swoooofy's protection:)

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Look, UNC caused this implosion. No way on earth any Clemson


May 20, 2012, 12:47 AM

fan wants them to profit from it.

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Re: If you were the Big12, who would you add to make 16?


May 19, 2012, 11:26 PM

Clemson, FSU, Miami, VT, GT, ND/NCSt.

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If us and FSU are in as speculated, that leaves 4 spots


May 19, 2012, 11:27 PM

Here's a guess at how the 4 super conferences shake out at 16 teams. Big 12 adds Notre Dame, Maryland(DC TV), Syracuse(NY TV) and Miami. Big 10 adds NC, Duke, UVA and Georgia Tech. SEC adds NC State and VaTech. PAC12 adds BYU, Houston(Texas TV), Boise St, and UNLV. San Diego St could also be a possibility. Everyone else is hung out to dry

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Re: If us and FSU are in as speculated, that leaves 4 spots


May 19, 2012, 11:32 PM

I doubt this is about TV markets anymore. ESPN/ABC is the main carrier for college football anymore along with CBS. Tey cover the whole country so America is just one big TV market anymore. Why water down your product?

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Potential eyes in large markets are what is driving this


May 19, 2012, 11:44 PM

Maryland and Syracuse bring huge TV markets. that's bargaining power for ad dollars. You really think Mizzou helps the SEC's football prestige. No, they bring KC and St. Louis TV markets

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There was something on a FSU board about the


May 19, 2012, 11:58 PM

TV ratings of each ACC team for 2011. Clemson was second to FSU (okay it was an FSU message board so I know it might be slightly skewed), but Clemson's TV ratings were higher than MD, BC, Wake and Duke combined. Kind of shot the whole northeast TV market thought done the tube. Northeast does not care about college football.

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None of those teams were relevant either


May 20, 2012, 12:07 AM

Syracuse has been relevant in the last 20 years. If they are good, people watch. And Syracuse is the college team of NYC. Ad sales are about potential viewership.

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They may bring huge markets, but no one in those markets


May 20, 2012, 12:49 AM [ in reply to Potential eyes in large markets are what is driving this ]

is watching them.At some point, advertisers are going to say NO. I am not paying for this.

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Re: Potential eyes in large markets are what is driving this


May 20, 2012, 6:29 AM [ in reply to Potential eyes in large markets are what is driving this ]

Misery brings neither the ST. Louis or KC, market. Illinois controls St. Louis and Kansas controls the KC market. The Big12 is glad to see Misery go to SEC. They were the ones that got everything started.

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Re: If us and FSU are in as speculated, that leaves 4 spots


May 19, 2012, 11:33 PM [ in reply to If us and FSU are in as speculated, that leaves 4 spots ]

You ARE an IDIOT if you think Clemson would get hung out to dry.

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Re: If us and FSU are in as speculated, that leaves 4 spots


May 19, 2012, 11:36 PM

He was going on us and FSU in the BIG XII with the other four he mentioned.

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Read: "If us and FSU are in"


May 19, 2012, 11:37 PM [ in reply to Re: If us and FSU are in as speculated, that leaves 4 spots ]

:)

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I'm assuming we are in the BIG12, you might try actually


May 19, 2012, 11:42 PM [ in reply to Re: If us and FSU are in as speculated, that leaves 4 spots ]

reading a post before hurling insults

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IMO, I hope no to UNC


May 19, 2012, 11:37 PM

Let them swim in the aftermath of running the ACC into the ground in regards to football. They deserve to be left behind when college football evolves.

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Re: If you were the Big12, who would you add to make 16?


May 19, 2012, 11:38 PM

I add Notre Dame, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson North Carolina, Maryland.

That's purely a wishlist, and doesn't tap the northeast markets, but they're by and large professional sports fans and more apt to identify as consumers with the Big10, so that was where I would draw the line if it were my business decision.

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CU, FSU, ND, VT, GT, NC St.***


May 19, 2012, 11:39 PM



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I still think VT and NC State ultimately end up in the $EC


May 20, 2012, 12:02 AM

although my preference would be for VT and GT to join Clemson and FSU in the Big XII.




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You may be right...although I think if the Big XII decides


May 20, 2012, 12:34 AM

to go for 6 right now they may want to go with their "brethren". I think when it is said and done the Big XVI could be as strong as the SEC.

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I'm almost convinced the Big XII and the $EC...


May 20, 2012, 12:43 AM

are making these decisions jointly.

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They will probably added Louisville...


May 20, 2012, 12:01 AM

BYU, Cincinnati, and Boise State (once they realize the Big East is truly worthless). 14 is where they will max out at for now...

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Louisville is way down the list for the Big XII....


May 20, 2012, 12:07 AM

and would be considered a fall-back if some of the other more coveted schools don't pan out.

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4 from acc, byu, nd


May 20, 2012, 1:32 AM

If its 16 there will be pods, the 4 From acc would be one.

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BYU is a fall-back team for the Big XII...


May 20, 2012, 8:59 AM

primarily because they declined an offer from the Big XII a year ago and because of their policy of not playing games of any kind on Sundays.

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