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New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 7:38 PM
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so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 7:42 PM
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Wish he would just admit it was a mistake that luckily didn't bite us
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 7:47 PM
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He didn't think it was a mistake. Most of us think it was. I'll support him. I really believe he thinks it was the right call. He says there was a high snap earlier. I don't think he had trust in the long snapper to risk it. We won. It's over. Fabulous job on defense.
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It's just crazy it had to come down to a Hail Mary
Sep 4, 2016, 7:49 PM
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Even the thought of auburn converting that Hail Mary is still scary a day later!
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 7:55 PM
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His was "coach speak". No way he would make that mistake again. Had we missed the FG, we still would have been on the same yard line we handed the ball over to them on. Glad it turned out okay, but I hope, and I really am convinced, that Dabo knows he dodged a bullet with that decision last night. We probably won't be so fortunate again.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 8:01 PM
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If it was blocked and returned for a score they would not have had the ball on the same yard line. By not attempting the FG, there was NO WAY it could be blocked and returned for a score. We would have lost the game. By running the play the risk there was a fumble. So there is risk both ways.
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NO!
Sep 4, 2016, 8:31 PM
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You shouldn't make such decisions based on the FEAR that your special team is going to fail... He should face his fear and correct his kicking team... Better that than putting the whole team in a possible losing situation. Remember how many last hail mary's and last second field goals we escaped last year. Time to smarten up from such fearful decisions AND prevent defenses.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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When the whiners go 14-1 maybe Dabo might listen. Dabo
Sep 4, 2016, 10:44 PM
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coaching out of fear. LOL!
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Re: When the whiners go 14-1 maybe Dabo might listen. Dabo
Sep 5, 2016, 5:35 AM
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Had he not been afraid we'd miss the FG, he certainly should have tried the kick. Fear? Yes, Dabo was more afraid of "a bad snap" or a bad kick than he was letting Gallman run on 4th and whatever. So yes, Dabo did fear the outcome of a failed kick. If we can't hit a 41 yarder, this could be a problem year for us.
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Re: NO!
Sep 5, 2016, 12:36 AM
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Agree 100%. There's some amount of risk with every play. Dabo's decision to pass on a field goal well within Huegel's range tells me that special teams are a problem again this year which was evident during the game. McCloud didn't fair catch a short punt and it rolled 23 yds down field. Auburn had a long kickoff return (but fortunately it was called back due to a penalty). And of course the missed PAT and the high snap on another FG that was saved by Seth Ryan and Huegel. Dabo would have elected to kick the field goal if the field goal team was reliable.
Last year Clemson ranked very low nationally on several special team metrics and it cost us a national championship. Dabo needs to make special teams a priority.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 5, 2016, 7:18 AM
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> If it was blocked and returned for a score they would > not have had the ball on the same yard line. By not > attempting the FG, there was NO WAY it could be > blocked and returned for a score. We would have lost > the game. By running the play the risk there was a > fumble. So there is risk both ways.
Jeez, tlever, you are really reaching on this post. To counter your thought, what if Gallman had the ball popped out of his hand and Auburn caught it and ran for a touchdown??? I am in the camp of those that think he made a bad decision to not try the field goal. This does not mean any other thing than what I posted. I still love Dabo and our coaching staff, but they, too, make errors from time to time.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 5, 2016, 9:22 AM
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Yep!
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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So it was an error that we won the game! Keep making
Sep 5, 2016, 3:00 PM
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those "errors" Dabo.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 8:23 PM
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He will kick the ball the next time, and if asked about this, he will say that the long snapper has become Mr Automatic since that night in Aubarn!!!!
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 5, 2016, 5:39 AM
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To the TDer, maybe he would make that mistake again, but I expect Dabo is smarter than that.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 7:59 PM
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I support Dabo but admit ,that was a Les Miles moment.Could have bit us in the a$$.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 9:08 PM
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I think he had auburn blocking and running one back on Obama in the back of his mind. I disagree with him, but we won so it's all good. Who knows? Auburn might have blocked it and run it back on us.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 9:09 PM
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Bama, not obama. I hate autocorrect.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 8:07 PM
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most of the time he would kick it. but he said he has been involved as a player and coach in some weird stuff in auburn. how long yall gonna beat this dead horse. maybe you could just complain about 9 running out of bounds and huegal missing the extra point.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 8:29 PM
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Completely agree. To be wrong is one thing. To be wrong and defend your error is a big problem.
No one is perfect Dabo. Learn from this and move on.
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 8:35 PM
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I think he called what he wanted and it worked out the way he wanted. How is that a mistake?
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Re: so so dumb
Sep 4, 2016, 8:41 PM
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Would the decision still be dumb if we tried the fg, had it blocked and returned for a touchdown? It's so easy to do his job from our living rooms, isn't it?
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13 tackles for loss
Sep 4, 2016, 7:45 PM
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Great job defense!
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Re: 13 tackles for loss
Sep 4, 2016, 7:57 PM
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Right! Seemed like more, but I'll take your word for it. Our Defense was great most of the night. BV is worth his pay check, and then some.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 7:47 PM
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Dabo to win a NC it not only takes good players but good coaching. Learn from your mistakes and be a NC coach .
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From the 17 it's a 34 yard attempt
Sep 4, 2016, 7:50 PM
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Not a 41 yard attempt.
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Re: From the 17 it's a 34 yard attempt
Sep 4, 2016, 7:51 PM
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Yep
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Re: From the 17 it's a 34 yard attempt
Sep 4, 2016, 8:00 PM
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It sounds like such a much better decision to call it a 40+ yarder. Point to take away is that we should have kicked the ball, unless we have a lousy Kicker, Snapper or Holder in whom we have no confidence.
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Re: From the 17 it's a 34 yard attempt
Sep 4, 2016, 8:01 PM
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Yep GH is money on those mid range kicks.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 7:48 PM
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Didn't Jadar get burned on the very next play and was called for PI?
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Life lessons we teach kids
Sep 4, 2016, 7:55 PM
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If you're absolutely wrong....
Double down and deny!!!!
That's an excellent lesson to teach our boys
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Re: Life lessons we teach kids
Sep 4, 2016, 9:03 PM
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? I'll take his life lessons. I think he means it. He did not trust the kicking team. They have to earn that trust. Good lesson.
Weird thing to say about our coaches.
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Re: Life lessons we teach kids
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The Truth: The Vegas line was 8 points. If Dabo kicks the field goal , we win by 9 and Vegas loses lots of money. 70% of the public bet was on Clemson to win by more than 8. Get Dabo to talk about that! He worked those young men hard over the summer only to "hold" back. He says "a win is a win" WRONG
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Thr real controversy is not about a field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 7:56 PM
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When a timeout was called with 50 seconds left, the load and clear message to Watson and Gallman should have been protect the football and don't go out of bounds. If that is properly executed then we would be calling a timeout with 5 or 6 seconds left and we can run a 4 the down play where Watson throws it as far out of bounds as he can, a la the Orange Bowl. Game over. I still say after the screwup going out of bounds you have to kick the FG. And I think it would have been 31 yards, not 41.
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Re: Thr real controversy is not about a field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:12 PM
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Agree...staying in bounds was the key to the time management...oh well...WG tried to hit the middle, saw the outside open and just got caught up in the moment. Teachable moment.
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Yup
Sep 4, 2016, 9:33 PM
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Flop down in bounds if you have to. Auburn had NO timeouts. By all means, keep the clock running. That should have been conveyed loud and clear just like you said.
Either way, the FG should have been attempted. Running the ball up the gut on 4th down was the riskiest course of action. The fact we won in spite of it doesn't make the decision a good one.
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The real controversy: Gallman's Screw-up
Sep 4, 2016, 10:32 PM
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Gallman is a senior running back who should know what to do in that situation. "Caught up in the moment" or not, he shouldn't be stupid and potentially give away the game. I hope that Dabo chewed out Gallman the same way that he did Leggett for his screw-ups--that would only be fair.
Hats off to a great "D" that bailed us out last night!
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Re: The real controversy: Gallman's Screw-up
Sep 5, 2016, 7:22 AM
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Gallman is a RS Junior. Enjoy him while you got him, he will be playing in the NFL next year.
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19-13 and 1-0 defends his decision.
Sep 4, 2016, 7:59 PM
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All the worrying, what-ifs, in the world will not change that surety and Dabo being proven correct.
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Not True!
Sep 4, 2016, 8:41 PM
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No...he wasn't proven right...he was proven wrong in that they did go down the field and had two chances to complete in the end zone.
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When Dabo made the decision the score was 19-13, when
Sep 4, 2016, 8:51 PM
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the game ended the score was 19-13, which galvanizes the decision as being the correct one, because that was the desired end.
Were their other choices that could have been made? Sure, they discussed those here, but you can't change the outcome, no matter how much you cower in the corner, roll around on the floor kicking and screaming, saying Not True!, because 19-13 is the right answer.
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How does it make it the correct decision?
Sep 4, 2016, 9:01 PM
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There is no way to define a correct decision here, because we don't have any way of knowing what would have happened had he chosen differently.
Dabo's decision was certainly riskier than kicking the field goal. Despite that, it worked out. Same thing goes for Gallman's decision not to stay in bounds. We still won the game, but it was certainly a risk to choose that instead of staying in bounds.
I think the point many of us are making here is that Dabo took a huge risk and seems unwilling to acknowledge that his choice could have had catastrophic consequences. It doesn't make him a bad coach, but it is a by concerning that he seems to lack so much confidence in our field goal unit.
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Yes, there is, 19-13 was the desired outcome...***
Sep 4, 2016, 9:03 PM
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and along with it, the win.
There are the possibility of dire consequences in every breath you take.
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Drunk driving "proven correct" b/c of no wreck/death/DUI.
Sep 5, 2016, 7:33 PM
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I love it when people justify poor decisions by the fact that said decisions didn't result in a bad outcome. Hysterical. It's even funnier when people try to assert that people who do not follow this asinine "logic" are crazy.
Saying that the W "galvanizes the decision as being the correct one, because that was the desired end" is exactly like saying your decision to drive home drunk was the correct one b/c you made it home w/o getting a DUI &/or wrecking your car &/or killing anyone. Yeah, you may have wound up w/the "desired end", but it was far from a good decision.
Dabo, instead of handing the game over to his kicker (who made more FG's than anyone last year) to attempt a 34 yard FG (when he'd already kicked a 30 & 40 yarder, & was 14-15 from that range the year before), & putting the game out of reach (i.e., playing to win), gives the ball back to a talented opponent, in their house, w/momentum from a TD on their previous drive, & dares them to beat us. (always a smart decision...)
Sure, Huegel could have missed. As Dabo said, "We'd already seen a high snap, & a low kick," but it was still the smarter play. By far. Instead, he gives it to Gallman to gain 4+ yards, even though he'd been keyed on all night, was only averaging 4.1 ypc (3.5 ypc if you take out his 1 big run), & had just failed made the poor decision to run out of bounds. Not high percentage play, & his failure to get the first down "galvanizes the decision as being the" incorrect one. Dabo mentions that he did so b/c, "our defense had played well. And they hadn't demonstrated they could go down the field passing the ball on us." Well, apparently he forgot that our defense, while they had played well for the most part, was gassed, & had given up 224 more yards & 10 more points in the 2nd half than the 1st...& that 7 of those points had just occurred b/c one of our most reliable & veteran defensive players had made an idiotic mistake.
We won. FANTASTIC! Our D played lights-out for most of the game. FANTASTIC! Our vaunted O was pedestrian, but still found a way to put points on the board against a defense w/a lot of talent. FANTASTIC! Dabo's decision? Boneheaded. His justification? There is none...he clearly made the wrong decision, but we all got lucky. Your position? Laughable.
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Congratulations on perhaps the stupidest analogy I've read
Sep 5, 2016, 7:37 PM
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next to comparing the odds associated with playing a machine programmed for gaming.
I've written too much already to show the lengths some of you have gone to be ~wrong, but at least yours was somewhat entertaining if drunk driving might be your thing.
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Typical reaction is typical.
Sep 5, 2016, 10:06 PM
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Of course you think I'm wrong, & yes, you've written too much. Anyone who averages 13+ posts per day over a decade has said too much...not to mention, obviously loves to hear himself speak & values his opinion too much. & anyone who would post what you did, & then go to lengths to defend it would insist anyone who didn't share his opinion was wrong. You're too invested in your idiocy to back off of it. LOL...I'm sure you were telling everyone last year that Andy Teasdall's decision to fake that punt was "proven correct" b/c we wound up winning the game...they desired result. I can only imagine the pearls of wisdom you'll drop on us all in your next 1600+ posts through the end of the season. Post on, Internet Warrior!
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [107495]
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There's all kinds of wrong & that's why I put it in italics.
Sep 5, 2016, 10:15 PM
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I have maintained Dabo was ~right, offered almost the exact explanation he did before Dabo mentioned one word in his post game. Have also suggested that there's often more ways to fix the same problem or headache and if folks would have done it different, so be it. Maybe one day they'll wield the power to do so.
Your analogy was pure shit and wrong on so many levels. If pointing that out makes me an Internet Warrior then what's best in life is to drive my enemies before me and hear the lamentations of their women - your weeping sates me.
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Judge is normally a bit more "reserved", I'm worried...
Sep 4, 2016, 9:09 PM
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his account has been compromised.
I keed, Judge, I keed.
And dammit, the link better embed this time... B-Meist!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs
That's the good stuff.
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Sorry...
Sep 4, 2016, 9:02 PM
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all full.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:00 PM
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Deciding not to kick a field goal was just as dumb as Wayne running out of bounds. Just awful. Just bc it didn't cost us doesn't mean it was an acceptable call. If you expect your players to make smart plays and hold them accountable; hold yourself accountable. You're better than that Dabo
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 7:43 PM
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Really coot??!!!!
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:06 PM
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Good grief. We won the game. I don't care if we beat the spread, if it was pretty, or if the officiating was terrible: we won. As long as we win, he can make any call he wishes. We lose, then I'll complain about a bad call.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:31 PM
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No one disagrees with that but if Dabo keeps playing on the edge we may run out of luck.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:08 PM
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Great call. We won.
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Wow!
Sep 4, 2016, 8:11 PM
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The man has recruited the best talent in the history of the program and taken us to the national championship just a year ago and you're ready to run him out if town.
How about celebrate the win, celebrate a great defensive effort , celebrate 12 more games with the best quarterback we have ever had at Clemson.
Tonight you could be a LSU tiger , a boomer sooner or a gamecock.
Go Tigers and proud of my coach, his staff and our players !!
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Re: Wow!
Sep 4, 2016, 8:33 PM
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You have too be a Democrat.Making up shi# that no one has mentioned.Who wants to run Dabo out of town? and why do you want to make that crap up?
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Let's move on here. This whole decision tree is fixable and
Sep 4, 2016, 8:25 PM
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Dabo will correct it. My concern is special teams. I didn't see great strides in the right direction.
This was an area for improvement and much focus put into this area during the off season.
Game 1 left me where I was last season.
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Re: Let's move on here. This whole decision tree is fixable and
Sep 5, 2016, 8:27 AM
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That's because your special teams coach was recruited from.......wait for it.....Duke. Over the last 5 yrs we have made great strides in upgrading our coaches. It's time to upgrade in this department too. What are waiting for, was the NC game not enough proof?
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:34 PM
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I have come to love these nutty calls by Danger Dabo! Dabo will have all the other coaches in the country wondering what the heck is he up to? Trick play must be coming or something....Ha! Crazy smart Dabo!
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:39 PM
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This was a questionable decision by Clemson, but heck we're 1-0 we obviously made some decisions right. Personally, I'da kicked a field goal, but I'm not the Head Coach. In the end, we still beat Auburn and we're still #2. This can be Clemson's Natty Season if #TigerNation will stand behind the Team.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:50 PM
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I think we are behind them.Did you doubt that?
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Orange Phenom [14700]
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:51 PM
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we have a group of fans, as does every school i guess, that just cant be happy no matter what. they cant wait to pounce on every questionable play call or mistake or coaching decision. got to be a sad way to go through life. i am happy as he!! to get out of that place with a win, period. dabo was 1-9 as a player and coach at that place. crazy stuff happens there.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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These posters are your next door neighbor who knows
Sep 4, 2016, 11:13 PM
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everything about everything and will let you know it over and over and over................
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:44 PM
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Coaches review game film and point out players mistakes. They should be honest in admitting their own mistakes. Gallman stepping out of bounds was a mistake. So was not going for field goal. Lucky that things worked out.
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Mascot [21]
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So is Dabo admitting no one on the staff told Wayne to
Sep 4, 2016, 8:57 PM
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stay in bounds? Sounds like he is. He says Wayne should have known better, which is true, but ultimately the staff is responsible to make sure everyone understands the situation.
We won and we obviously deserved to win, so it worked out well. But Dabo should own that end of game sequence. The overall sequence put in a very precarious situation... one that could have been easily been avoided.
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Paw Master [17785]
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if they complete that hail mary our season is over
Sep 4, 2016, 8:57 PM
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glad we defended it..still should have gone for the points though
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110%er [5523]
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And there was only one DB in the endzone
Sep 5, 2016, 1:04 AM
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Defense played great, but you can't put them in horrible situations time and time again and make terrible game management decisions and expect to win.
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Re: if they complete that hail mary our season is over
Sep 5, 2016, 1:18 PM
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The big word here is "IF". If the dog had not stopped to sh** he would have caught the rabbit. Go tigers! This old tiger has been following you for 67 years.
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Re: if they complete that hail mary our season is over
Sep 5, 2016, 3:29 PM
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Respectfully If you have been following college football for 67 years then you are well educated in logical decisions concerning college football.
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All-Pro [765]
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Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 8:59 PM
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People crack me up talking about what if they had blocked the field goal and ran it back? Yeah, because that happens so often. Going down the field or busting a coverage, which we had already done earlier (Jadar Johnson getting caught on the playfake) is MUCH more likely. Its not even close. Justifying Dabos stupid decision by claiming a blocked field goal would ruin it is stupid. I love Dabo, Im glad we won, but he still made a bad decision.
Bad decisions are bad decisions, regardless of the outcome. Driving drunk isnt ok just because I made it home last night. Quit justifying Dabos stupid decision. Its really ok. He can be criticized too.
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Re: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 4:28 AM
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It's obvious that you haven't played football at any level past grade school. You go with what has been working. The defense had a heck of a game so you rest on their shoulders. Your special teams has been suspect for YEARS, so all of a sudden it makes sense for you to put it on them??? So many arm chair coaches want to make sure that it's easy and question a call that resulted in a WIN for a team and school that is on the cusp of greatness. If the game is tied, let them give you the lead, if the opposition has 40 seconds and NO TIME OUTS, let the dogs that got you there, bring it home
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All-Pro [765]
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Re: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 7:49 PM
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Actually played in college, but please, do tell where you played at? Assumptions make you look stupid.
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National Champion [7887]
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His pride is getting in the way
Sep 4, 2016, 9:16 PM
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of him admitting to a poor coaching decision.
His whole statement is a oxymoron!! Trust your D then kick the dang FG and if it's no good then D has less than 10 yards lost.
Trust your D and ALWAYS kick the FG in that situation. 100 out of 100 always. Pride can hurt, and his nearly hurt the team!!
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There are more than two possible outcomes...
Sep 4, 2016, 9:26 PM
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1) Make FG 2) Miss FG (already happened earlier with pat) 3) FG blocked 4) Snapped over holder's head (almost happened once), mishandled by holder/fumbled, etc, etc...
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All-TigerNet [5702]
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Dabo really believes he made the right call.
Sep 4, 2016, 9:34 PM
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That's a scary thought.
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'nother sensational headline, misleading
Sep 4, 2016, 9:47 PM
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he answered the question about it that people who work for a living asking questions ask. What's wrong with that? Great commentary by the coach on many other aspects and players. Headline could just as easily been, "Dabo proud of defense", etc. Why do you writers try to stir the pot like this?
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 10:17 PM
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On a TV recap of yesterday's games, an announcer said that Clemson tried everything they could to lose their game.
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Paw Warrior [4815]
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I still believe he is wrong. We should have kicked the field goal!
Sep 4, 2016, 10:38 PM
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Atleast we didn't lose.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 10:43 PM
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I'm not so sure it was dumb. As Dabo mentioned the one high snap, missed extra point... What happens if it is another high snap and Auburn scoops it up and goes for a TD? It was a win! Let's move on. We will never remember it at the end of the season
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 4, 2016, 11:40 PM
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Victory on the road in hostile SEC stadium in season opener! Sounds pretty fantastic to me!
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Orange Blooded [2218]
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This is what's bothering people?
Sep 5, 2016, 12:22 AM
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With all of the nail-biting and/or head-scratching moments in the game, this one didn't rank that high with me. I understood why he did it. At that moment, I would not have wanted to send our special teams out on the field either. I didn't think they had much of a chance to go that far, that fast, and if we had made a first down, the game would be over instantly.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 12:54 AM
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All this talk about "what if they blocked it an ran it back"...check the number of times that actually happens...all this "Dabo should have tried the field goal"...he didn't and we won...look at it from another angle, no late hit out of bounds on the Awbarn QB, no penalty, and they don't score the touchdown and all of this ya ya jawing is moot. Like them or hate them Awbarn has a Strong defense, absolute confusion on offense, and we take the W home. Go Tigers!!
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 3:15 AM
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You didn't watch ND just do that to Texas Sun. night did you?
Coach made the right plan. Gallman brainfarted and mucked it up. Coach took the heat for the decision.
I wouldn't have kicked that FG either.
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1st Rounder [645]
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 9:02 AM
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And Texas won.
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All-In [48078]
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Love Dabo, but he is wrong without a doubt.****
Sep 5, 2016, 7:40 AM
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All-In [48078]
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Love Dabo, but he is wrong without a doubt.****
Sep 5, 2016, 7:40 AM
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Rock Defender [63]
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we were a Hail Mary away from ending the season, was there
Sep 5, 2016, 8:40 AM
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no one in Dabo's headset saying "hey coach, Let's take a knee, burn a timeout, hike the ball and throw it away to end the game"? Is the coaching staff scared to question him? Someone on the staff knew it was wrong. We all did.
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No, it would have only been a 34 yard fg, not a 41 yarder.
Sep 5, 2016, 8:47 AM
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 9:46 AM
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DECISION NOT TO KICK FIELD GOAL---OK PREVENT DEFENSE---NOT OK
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Freshman [10]
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 9:49 AM
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DECISION NOT TO KICK FIELD GOAL---OK PREVENT DEFENSE---NOT OK
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Game Changer [1640]
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 12:23 PM
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so what! we won That's all that matters. If you guys are so smart why aren't you making millions coaching. It is easy to coach from the stands or in front of the TV
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Walk-On [145]
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 12:41 PM
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We are not attempting to coach... We are stating the facts. It is ALL about the almighty dollar. Don't risk young men's health/injuries just so that Vegas can make more. Dabo is from the Saban coaching tree...you will not see Saban holding back. 100% all the time...go Tigers
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 2:54 PM
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Why run the ball? Take a knee twice if you are too dumb and scared to kick a field goal! Stupid we got lucky . Coach decision worst ever !!!
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Orange Phenom [14700]
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 5, 2016, 7:37 PM
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14, IS THat your age or your iq.
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All-In [10810]
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Sorry Dabo. Biggest blunder ever.
Sep 5, 2016, 5:19 PM
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I love you Coach. But, you can't finish teams off. See Notre Dame, and Louisville last year. There were points in the game we could have really pulled away. But, you tried to play clock management. Runs up,the gut. No verticals passes. You become one dimensional and play not to lose. Well, that doesn't work. You almost lost those games, and to Auburn doing the same thing. You need that killer instinct. Not afraid to run up the score. Keep the playbook open! Wait until the other team waives the white flag, then take your foot off the gas! You've been lucky so far. We will lose one of these type games eventually. Never, EVER play prevent defense! Was it Lombardi that said prevent only prevents you from winning?! You're making your job harder than it has to be, and giving me cardiac fits!
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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II'm sure the National Coach of the Year will take your
Sep 5, 2016, 10:52 PM
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advice since Clemson won ALL those games you are bitching about. BTW Lombardi was wrong also.
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Orange Elite [5367]
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Just following a general principle of leadership
Sep 5, 2016, 10:52 PM
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to not admit you were wrong unless its absolutely unavoidable. That way you maintain your "know everything" status with those you lead.
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Re: New Story: Dabo defends his decision to not kick the field goal
Sep 6, 2016, 4:24 PM
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With all due respect to Dabo, those last 50 seconds were managed very poorly by the coaching staff. All we had to do was to have Our QB to take a knee twice, and the game so over. Period.
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